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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:54 PM Author: Vigorous cyan death wish therapy
About 60k in debt at CLS.
Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents it is mine when I graduate LS) in debt for a T15 undergrad degree (poly sci-type of degree).
Current grades at CLS: B, B, B+, B+
Three grades still out, but probably similar. I feel like the goal of working in BIGLAW is ending...should I just hedge my bets now and drop out before taking on even more debt?
It's pretty sad. I owned undergrad and thought I would do well in LS, too. I guess I thought wrong. I don't know what to do at this point.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098962) |
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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:17 PM Author: swashbuckling misanthropic parlour
I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..
After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...
Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136215) |
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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:18 PM Author: swashbuckling misanthropic parlour
I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..
After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...
Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136222) |
Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM Author: glittery canary mother
can't you go work for the government and have the loans forgiven after ten years?
i don't really get this. there are 10 million people going to LS. how can a guy making B/B+ at one of the best 6 or so schools in the world see his situation as hopeless? what the hell do the people in the other far shittier schools do?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099128) |
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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:21 PM Author: glittery canary mother
yeah. but the CLS degree might come in handy at some point in the future.
i think people are being short-sighted. getting a bigtime credential like that is a once in a lifetime thing. ITE is warping people's perceptions. life is long, and you don't know what will happen in the future -- who knows, Obama could forgive all loans.
i see a lot of people "outsmarting" themselves these days.
if the economy truly tanks, well, we are all fucked, and it will make little difference anyway what debt you have. if it doesn't tank, we'll all be kicking ourselves for the "prudent" choices we've made.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099179)
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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM Author: harsh bbw
I dont follow. You've solicited advice. People are giving an opinion and you rebut.
If you are going to drop out, drop out.
Just don't pretend to want advice when all you want to do is rationalize aloud what you already are committed to doing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099245) |
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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM Author: harsh bbw
If this is true, and you're committed to hustling the fuck out of the system (something I dont gather you are from your prior posts), the time is now. Start networking like crazyi in your secondary markets.
THIS YEAR, I saw people with mediocre grades from far shittier law schools get secondary posts in my market. Granted, anecdotes don't go far when you see median kids at CLS or NYU strike out but the point is that you can make your own luck outside of OCI.
Stop listening to XOXO and their chicken little bullshit. Your polisci degree wont get you shit. Your JD will. Give it time.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099324) |
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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:00 PM Author: harsh bbw
please tell me you aren't this fucking clueless.
1. find cls alumni at firm.
2. email said alumni.
3. offer to meet in person/grab coffee to explore career options.
4. when the moment strikes, go over resume (or fuck her/him wild).
5. ??????
6. PROFIT
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101008) |
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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:03 PM Author: harsh bbw
Here's a helpful hint:
Get off XOXO. Get off your ass. Start doing the rounds.
97% of practicing atty would laugh at this thread. Go make your own luck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099571) |
Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle amber theater sneaky criminal
LRAP makes it so attending law school can be practically free. Don't bitch and carry on. You have no other prospects as a TTT polisci major in a shitty economy.
If you don't get biglaw, do JAG or public interest for 5-10 years. Stay fit, have meaningful relationships, and enjoy life. You may even be better off for it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099242) |
Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM Author: Cocky piazza
you'll get a job eventually - if you can't find anything with a CLS degree, then you have a piece of shit personality and wouldn't have succeeded anywhere. you'll either go govt/public and get the loans off your back before too long, or if you stay in private practice, you'll eventually end up making good money even if you don't start out all models and bottles.
median at a T6 with debt should not be fucking panic mode, even ITE. don't be such a risk averse faggot and go take care of business.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099327) |
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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:09 PM Author: Cocky piazza
maybe so, but dude's odds aren't that long and scary compared to many. people balance mortgages, loans, CC debt, kids, and all kinds of other shit. being a single guy with a columbia JD and just school debt isn't the end of the fucking world. only the aspie XO mentality equates this with failing at life.
a T6 law degree is still valuable and will take you somewhere good if you actually want to practice law - that's not just hallmark shit, it's true. like i said, very few people stick with it end up fucked over.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099628)
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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:43 PM Author: wine charismatic field
This is obvious flame of the crazy people on this board who think only top 1/4 at HLS gets biglaw right now. Hypothetically, 3 B+s and no B-s is about 80% to get biglaw at fall OCI. And assuming the economy continues in +GDP territory for the year I would guess 3L OCI would be atypically doable at Columbia in 2011, especially if you take the right courses and manage to pad your GPA up to have a chance at Stone one year.
Also, coming from Columbia you have so many more options. Say you want to do Entertainment law--intern at an entertainment firm/company for a year or two in law school, make connections and you have a very realistic chance to break into a practice area that's virtually impossible to get from, e.g., Texas, Cornell or Georgetown.
Now if all the rest of you people seemingly taking this guy seriously are actually pretending/flaming back, then I'm impressed, although you should've been funnier.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100769) |
Date: June 1st, 2010 12:00 PM Author: Vigorous cyan death wish therapy
Updated to another B. Damn.
B,B,B,B+,B+.
Feeling pretty hopeless on the BIGLAW front, now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15135131) |
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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:36 PM Author: harsh bbw
you're looking for every excuse to cut bait and run.
i suspect you'll find that your polisci degree will give you precisely a 0% chance at landing a decent job, whereas your law degree gives you a far higher likelihood depending upon how hungry you are.
stop fucking around.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136343) |
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