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Who is More Prestigious--Dellinger, Waxman, Clement or Katyal?

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navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
are these famous gangsters?
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
former Solicitor Generals, broseph. Prestige.
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
so they procure things for various generals. like gangsters?
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
shut the fuck up
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
are you going to beat me like i'm a prisoner asserting my ci...
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-680.pdf
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
fuck them. anytime cops question you inside jail/prison abou...
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
what about this case today? http://www.supremecourt.gov/o...
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
bullshit dawg. the aedpa standard is basically, "even i...
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
Finally, the Circuit questioned the strength of the case aga...
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
but 20 years later means he's accustomed to prison and why l...
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
GINSBURG, J. DISSENTING: These statements suggest that the C...
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
true, but releasing him will have him seek revenge on innoce...
Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party
  02/21/12
(penis investor)
anal incel
  03/22/12
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navy ratface giraffe
  04/04/12
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  04/06/12
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  06/28/12
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  03/22/12
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navy ratface giraffe
  08/03/12
you seem dumb
navy ratface giraffe
  08/03/12
Waxman is the best advocate, Katyal is the most prestigious
Judgmental dragon
  02/21/12
What about Clement?
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
What about him? I already answered your question.
Judgmental dragon
  02/21/12
Compare Clement with Katyal I guess is my question. Where do...
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
shut the fuck up
Judgmental dragon
  02/21/12
Come on seriously--where do you think Clement fits?
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case agains...
navy ratface giraffe
  02/21/12
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  02/21/12
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navy ratface giraffe
  05/01/12
Clement is obviously the most prestigious. He said fuck you ...
shimmering crusty institution
  03/22/12
if u listen to the oral argument in this one case, Katyal st...
navy ratface giraffe
  03/22/12
Katyal was only the acting SG, never the real thing. Clemen...
shimmering crusty institution
  03/22/12
Why did Katyal go to Hogan? IT strikes me as odd as well
navy ratface giraffe
  03/22/12
They probably paid him a boatload. A lot of times it co...
shimmering crusty institution
  03/22/12
Maybe Arnold Porter?
navy ratface giraffe
  03/22/12
Maybe chambers is for shit, but I don't see A&P on there...
shimmering crusty institution
  03/22/12
would u rate dellinger as a good advocate?
navy ratface giraffe
  03/22/12
Clearly anyone that has spent time in the OSG is a good advo...
shimmering crusty institution
  03/22/12
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navy ratface giraffe
  10/01/15
SSM, do you collect something akin to baseball cards, except...
white up-to-no-good piazza round eye
  04/06/12
You seem dumb.
navy ratface giraffe
  08/03/12


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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:24 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016587)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

are these famous gangsters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016589)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:26 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

former Solicitor Generals, broseph. Prestige.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016595)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

so they procure things for various generals. like gangsters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016601)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:28 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

shut the fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016606)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:30 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

are you going to beat me like i'm a prisoner asserting my civil rights in front of the aedpa monolith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016616)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:34 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-680.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016652)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:36 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

fuck them. anytime cops question you inside jail/prison about shit that occurred when you were free...it's a miranda violation. fuck the 6th and little rock or whatever shit flyover they sit in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016675)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

what about this case today?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-38.pdf

read Ginsburg's cogent dissent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016691)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:40 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

bullshit dawg. the aedpa standard is basically, "even if the state violated brady, and even if the conduct was so egregious that the prosecutor lost his qualified immunity, is it possible the jury may have convicted him anyway because people are just feeble people?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016716)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

Finally, the Circuit questioned the strength of the case against Lambert. See Lambert v. Beard, 633 F. 3d 126, 135–136 (CA3 2011). It pointed out that the case against Lambert was largely based on Jackson’s testimony, explaining that “without Jackson’s statements to the police,the Commonwealth could not have indicted Lambert on these charges.” Id., at 131. Yet Jackson had made “four prior inconsistent statements to the police about who didwhat and who said what on the night in question,” and hehad admitted that his goal in testifying was “to save himself from a death sentence.” Ibid. The Circuit could not “help but observe that the evidence is very strong thatReese, not Lambert, was the shooter, even assuming that Lambert (and not Jackson, as two of the barmaids testified) was in the Prince’s Lounge that night.” Id., at 135. The Circuit stated: “One wonders how the Commonwealth could have based this case of first-degree murder on a Bernard Jackson.”

These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, aninnocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016725)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:43 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

but 20 years later means he's accustomed to prison and why let a vengeful man free? especially one who now has plied the learned trades of his co-residents in the state facility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016739)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:45 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

GINSBURG, J. DISSENTING: These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, aninnocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016749)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: Electric cordovan indian lodge reading party

true, but releasing him will have him seek revenge on innocent people. prison changed him. right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016777)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: anal incel

(penis investor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267567)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:33 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20389041)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20404535)



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Date: May 3rd, 2012 6:45 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20607247)



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Date: June 28th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20978716)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:59 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267017)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:17 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249105)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:32 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

you seem dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249228)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: Judgmental dragon

Waxman is the best advocate, Katyal is the most prestigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016611)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

What about Clement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016625)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:33 AM
Author: Judgmental dragon

What about him? I already answered your question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016646)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:34 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

Compare Clement with Katyal I guess is my question. Where does he rank on the list? Last?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016651)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: Judgmental dragon

shut the fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016681)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

Come on seriously--where do you think Clement fits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016694)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, an innocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016732)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20017339)



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Date: May 1st, 2012 10:30 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20588448)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: shimmering crusty institution

Clement is obviously the most prestigious. He said fuck you to K&S and started his own shop that is owning shit right now.

As for best advocate (which is a different question altogether), I say Clement again. He goes up there commando and has a very natural flow to his arguments that the others don't really have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267367)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

if u listen to the oral argument in this one case, Katyal styled the fuck out of him

http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2005/2005_05_184

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267377)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: shimmering crusty institution

Katyal was only the acting SG, never the real thing. Clement has argued more in front of SCOTUS than any other lawyer since 2000.

Hogan's appellate group isnt even listed by chambers anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267429)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:10 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

Why did Katyal go to Hogan? IT strikes me as odd as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267439)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: shimmering crusty institution

They probably paid him a boatload.

A lot of times it comes down to wanting to be the top dog right away. He can be the immediate star of the appellate group there, that would not have been the case at several other top appellate shops in town.

Where else would you think he would go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267491)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

Maybe Arnold Porter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267495)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: shimmering crusty institution

Maybe chambers is for shit, but I don't see A&P on there either.

http://www.chambersandpartners.com/uk/Editorial/42616

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267503)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

would u rate dellinger as a good advocate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267518)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: shimmering crusty institution

Clearly anyone that has spent time in the OSG is a good advocate. I think Dellinger always struck me as more politically savvy than the other SG's, probably because I think he spent time in the DOJ's OLC at some point which is somewhat political. I really like him, plus I have always had a lot of respect for OMM so there you go. He features prominently in the Supreme Court documentary that PBS did a few years ago, really well done. He clerked for Hugo Black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267554)



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Date: October 1st, 2015 9:02 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#28874360)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: white up-to-no-good piazza round eye

SSM, do you collect something akin to baseball cards, except with the photos, names, and stats of members of the SG's Office and federal circuit courts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20404562)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: navy ratface giraffe

You seem dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249114)