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Who is More Prestigious--Dellinger, Waxman, Clement or Katyal?

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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
are these famous gangsters?
Jade locus
  02/21/12
former Solicitor Generals, broseph. Prestige.
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
so they procure things for various generals. like gangsters?
Jade locus
  02/21/12
shut the fuck up
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
are you going to beat me like i'm a prisoner asserting my ci...
Jade locus
  02/21/12
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-680.pdf
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
fuck them. anytime cops question you inside jail/prison abou...
Jade locus
  02/21/12
what about this case today? http://www.supremecourt.gov/o...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
bullshit dawg. the aedpa standard is basically, "even i...
Jade locus
  02/21/12
Finally, the Circuit questioned the strength of the case aga...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
but 20 years later means he's accustomed to prison and why l...
Jade locus
  02/21/12
GINSBURG, J. DISSENTING: These statements suggest that the C...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
true, but releasing him will have him seek revenge on innoce...
Jade locus
  02/21/12
(penis investor)
Shaky Glassy Stag Film Therapy
  03/22/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  04/04/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  04/06/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  06/28/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  03/22/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  08/03/12
you seem dumb
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  08/03/12
Waxman is the best advocate, Katyal is the most prestigious
titillating cuckold
  02/21/12
What about Clement?
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
What about him? I already answered your question.
titillating cuckold
  02/21/12
Compare Clement with Katyal I guess is my question. Where do...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
shut the fuck up
titillating cuckold
  02/21/12
Come on seriously--where do you think Clement fits?
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case agains...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  02/21/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  05/01/12
Clement is obviously the most prestigious. He said fuck you ...
infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse
  03/22/12
if u listen to the oral argument in this one case, Katyal st...
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  03/22/12
Katyal was only the acting SG, never the real thing. Clemen...
infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse
  03/22/12
Why did Katyal go to Hogan? IT strikes me as odd as well
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  03/22/12
They probably paid him a boatload. A lot of times it co...
infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse
  03/22/12
Maybe Arnold Porter?
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  03/22/12
Maybe chambers is for shit, but I don't see A&P on there...
infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse
  03/22/12
would u rate dellinger as a good advocate?
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  03/22/12
Clearly anyone that has spent time in the OSG is a good advo...
infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse
  03/22/12
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Avocado Filthy Rehab
  10/01/15
SSM, do you collect something akin to baseball cards, except...
Wine wonderful private investor boistinker
  04/06/12
You seem dumb.
Avocado Filthy Rehab
  08/03/12


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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:24 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016587)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Jade locus

are these famous gangsters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016589)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:26 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

former Solicitor Generals, broseph. Prestige.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016595)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: Jade locus

so they procure things for various generals. like gangsters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016601)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:28 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

shut the fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016606)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:30 AM
Author: Jade locus

are you going to beat me like i'm a prisoner asserting my civil rights in front of the aedpa monolith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016616)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:34 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-680.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016652)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:36 AM
Author: Jade locus

fuck them. anytime cops question you inside jail/prison about shit that occurred when you were free...it's a miranda violation. fuck the 6th and little rock or whatever shit flyover they sit in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016675)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

what about this case today?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-38.pdf

read Ginsburg's cogent dissent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016691)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:40 AM
Author: Jade locus

bullshit dawg. the aedpa standard is basically, "even if the state violated brady, and even if the conduct was so egregious that the prosecutor lost his qualified immunity, is it possible the jury may have convicted him anyway because people are just feeble people?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016716)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

Finally, the Circuit questioned the strength of the case against Lambert. See Lambert v. Beard, 633 F. 3d 126, 135–136 (CA3 2011). It pointed out that the case against Lambert was largely based on Jackson’s testimony, explaining that “without Jackson’s statements to the police,the Commonwealth could not have indicted Lambert on these charges.” Id., at 131. Yet Jackson had made “four prior inconsistent statements to the police about who didwhat and who said what on the night in question,” and hehad admitted that his goal in testifying was “to save himself from a death sentence.” Ibid. The Circuit could not “help but observe that the evidence is very strong thatReese, not Lambert, was the shooter, even assuming that Lambert (and not Jackson, as two of the barmaids testified) was in the Prince’s Lounge that night.” Id., at 135. The Circuit stated: “One wonders how the Commonwealth could have based this case of first-degree murder on a Bernard Jackson.”

These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, aninnocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016725)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:43 AM
Author: Jade locus

but 20 years later means he's accustomed to prison and why let a vengeful man free? especially one who now has plied the learned trades of his co-residents in the state facility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016739)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:45 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

GINSBURG, J. DISSENTING: These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, aninnocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016749)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: Jade locus

true, but releasing him will have him seek revenge on innocent people. prison changed him. right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016777)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Shaky Glassy Stag Film Therapy

(penis investor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267567)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:33 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20389041)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20404535)



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Date: May 3rd, 2012 6:45 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20607247)



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Date: June 28th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20978716)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:59 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267017)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:17 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249105)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:32 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

you seem dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249228)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: titillating cuckold

Waxman is the best advocate, Katyal is the most prestigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016611)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

What about Clement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016625)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:33 AM
Author: titillating cuckold

What about him? I already answered your question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016646)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:34 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

Compare Clement with Katyal I guess is my question. Where does he rank on the list? Last?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016651)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: titillating cuckold

shut the fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016681)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

Come on seriously--where do you think Clement fits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016694)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

These statements suggest that the Commonwealth’s case against Lambert was unusually weak. If the Commonwealth was wrong, an innocent man has spent almost 30 years in prison undersentence of death for a crime he did not commit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20016732)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20017339)



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Date: May 1st, 2012 10:30 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20588448)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse

Clement is obviously the most prestigious. He said fuck you to K&S and started his own shop that is owning shit right now.

As for best advocate (which is a different question altogether), I say Clement again. He goes up there commando and has a very natural flow to his arguments that the others don't really have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267367)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

if u listen to the oral argument in this one case, Katyal styled the fuck out of him

http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2005/2005_05_184

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267377)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse

Katyal was only the acting SG, never the real thing. Clement has argued more in front of SCOTUS than any other lawyer since 2000.

Hogan's appellate group isnt even listed by chambers anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267429)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:10 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

Why did Katyal go to Hogan? IT strikes me as odd as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267439)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse

They probably paid him a boatload.

A lot of times it comes down to wanting to be the top dog right away. He can be the immediate star of the appellate group there, that would not have been the case at several other top appellate shops in town.

Where else would you think he would go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267491)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

Maybe Arnold Porter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267495)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse

Maybe chambers is for shit, but I don't see A&P on there either.

http://www.chambersandpartners.com/uk/Editorial/42616

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267503)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

would u rate dellinger as a good advocate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267518)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: infuriating big-titted keepsake machete crackhouse

Clearly anyone that has spent time in the OSG is a good advocate. I think Dellinger always struck me as more politically savvy than the other SG's, probably because I think he spent time in the DOJ's OLC at some point which is somewhat political. I really like him, plus I have always had a lot of respect for OMM so there you go. He features prominently in the Supreme Court documentary that PBS did a few years ago, really well done. He clerked for Hugo Black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20267554)



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Date: October 1st, 2015 9:02 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#28874360)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: Wine wonderful private investor boistinker

SSM, do you collect something akin to baseball cards, except with the photos, names, and stats of members of the SG's Office and federal circuit courts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#20404562)



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Date: August 3rd, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: Avocado Filthy Rehab

You seem dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879680&forum_id=2#21249114)