Psychiatry is flame, right?
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Date: March 4th, 2012 5:13 AM Author: Chest-beating Razzle-dazzle Rehab Double Fault
yes. the thesis of the self-help philosophy of human action - the theoretical underpinning of psychiatry - is that we are self-determining free agents. this is mistaken. rather the person is an interaction between his or her physical body and an environment structured by power.. both now and in the past.
a person is a point in social space through which outside powers and influences flow, rather than an entity within which powers and influences originate.
any realistic account of unhappiness must stress its social origins, and hence give us the opportunity to free ourselves from the awful sense of personal responsibility for our misfortunes and predicaments which may all too often be the unwonted by-product of psychiatric treatment.
emotional and psychological distress is brought about by social and environmental powers which originate at some distance from those ultimately subjected to them.. it follows that the best therapy comes in the form of political, ethical and ideological change.
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Date: March 4th, 2012 6:13 AM Author: bespoke nudist forum
i may agree with what I think this is saying.
Psychology focuses too much on individual biology and the individual's ability to help himself. Something that can be inspiring and empowering but sometimes it results in victim blaming and a naive view of what people can do during economic and social periods.
For example, kids today are moving back to their parents' homes because they cannot find jobs. I have experienced psychologists blaming me for this sort of thing even though my choices--and the choices of those kids--are non existent. Are they supposed to go to a homeless shelter? Are they supposed to live on the streets? Even taking any job that pays $10 an hour won't be able to afford housing in most cities. YEt the psychologist would say that the kid is regressive, overly attached to his parents, has a dependent personality, never "launched," has biological tendencies that produce this end. It's bogus but that's the way it goes.
I think psychotherapy is a waste of time and money. On their best days, psychologists bring common sense ideas to the table. One psychologist told me to exercise more when I was depressed. This is useful but not brilliant. But I don't think even psychologists beleive what they say sometimes because they jump from one point of view to its contradictory point of view so often. One psychologist seemed very supportive of me, so after 3 sessions I brought in a relative. Then she became a different person. Suddenly she told me I was aggressive and belligerent, but I wasn't being either one of those things in the therapy session. I assume she was testing out a new theory that instead of internalizing my anger I was externalizing my anger. Her complete switch to test out this new theory that I was externalizing my anger was bizarre. And the theory itself that I was externalizing my anger had no real basis in anything I had told her or behaved during my therapy sessions with her, so she appeared to just make it up out of the blue. I quit therapy because her theory made no sense and her bizarre way of testing this new theory was awkward and made me uncomfortable.
I had this other therapist to whom I was describing how one of my parent's first wife/husband died. He started to speculate that this wife/husband had actually killed herself rather than died the normal death that I had heard. How was that supposed to be a useful insight? It just seemed to be a weird speculation that was likely not true, and if it were true I was not in a position to know. Meanwhile, he ignored my regular interpretation that the lack of communication about things like this death made my family situation dysfunctional.
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Date: March 4th, 2012 6:44 AM Author: bespoke nudist forum
That's part of the problem.
There are not enough truly mentally ill people for all of the psychiatrists to have enough to do. So psychiatrists exaggerate the numbers of mentally ill to give themselves more business. I have never heard of or seen or read about any psychiatrist who turned away a potential patient because that person was too normal. Psychiatrists make these people think they're mentally ill because they are unwilling to adapt their methodologies to deal with normal people who just have normal sorts of problems.
Kids who end up back home with their parents because they cannot find jobs are NORMAL not mentally ill. But if those kids get depressed because they are stuck at home unemployed, then the psychiatrists start to make up non existent mental health problems to rationalize keeping them in psychotherapy. Rather than telling those kids, "Look kid, you're normal, it's just the economy right now. Tough it out." The psychiatrist will make up some non existent mental health problem, "Look kid, the reason you're living at home is because you're bipolar and that has nothing to do with the recession. So take these pills for bipolar and you'll get a job."
They lie just to get more work for themselves.
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Date: March 4th, 2012 6:58 AM Author: bespoke nudist forum
I agree. And the biological model makes it seem that the problems of many unhappy people are rooted in their family genetics, so if the unhappy person takes drugs, they will be happy.
But a lot of times, the unhappiness is outside not inside the person. So taking drugs to cure unemployment, or a fiance you stop loving, or a job that is boring, or a graduate degree you need but can't afford, isn't going to solve the problem. The biological model and its drugs won't solve a lot of these problems, and the patients feel like they're mentally ill rather than just a victim of the economy, or normal like other people who have boring jobs.
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Date: March 4th, 2012 1:02 PM Author: titillating heaven
The sad part is patients are basically lab rats. Every year or so down the road, products are recalled for life-destructing reasons. Take me, I'm scared as fuck to have a baby cos God knows what sort of toxins are running through my system. They get a kickback from the pharmaceutical companies for testing these harmful products on their patients. They're pull pushers. I mean, sure, the meds did help me with my severe mental issues-somewhat, and they can be helpful. But some people simply don't need it.
Besides, I've read that the old school psych meds like Lithium work better than the shit they have out today. And the benefit of the old medicines is that they've been out for so long, we are 100% sure about what to expect.
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Date: April 22nd, 2012 7:07 AM Author: bespoke nudist forum
psychiatrists and psychologists both just give everyone they meet a DSM IV disorder diagnosis.
"You're delivering the mail? Well, you're bipolar."
"You're lost and need Room 350? Well, you're depressed."
"You're the Assistant to the PRincipal at John's school and want to set up an appointment with me? Well, you're schizoaffective."
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 7:39 AM Author: arousing wagecucks
This thread delivered...all of the nutjobs on the bort to one place at the same time.
I'm agnostic on the value of psychiatry, but LOL at the paranoid schizos in here -- "Shrinks diagnose everyone man, even the mailman who walks in their office to deliver the mail!! Seriously, though, I'm normal bro." **poasts for 14 hours straight**
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