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Anyone else just really suck at biglaw?

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's n...
peach house-broken property
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this is me and ive lasted 5 years
Mind-boggling therapy
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what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you ha...
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get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find ...
Mind-boggling therapy
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ty bro
High-end toilet seat knife
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How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year s...
peach house-broken property
  03/13/12
not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law ...
Mind-boggling therapy
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Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like ...
peach house-broken property
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was this the best poast on this bort in months? why yes.....
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This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several year...
Gaped Floppy Heaven
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burnout is flame
swashbuckling dragon
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nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to nav...
Mind-boggling therapy
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lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so m...
swashbuckling dragon
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make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver me...
Mind-boggling therapy
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This. I find myself having these exact same issues every ...
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Thought I was the only one.
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your definition of boutique is interesting
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almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless t...
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Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.
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(tax associate)
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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: peach house-broken property

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's not hard or anything, but the sheer attention to detail, organization and compulsiveness that's required is something I've never had in any amount. Can't really see myself going from a fairly chilled out guy to a type-A ball-buster in a year or two either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198797)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling therapy

this is me and ive lasted 5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198853)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: High-end toilet seat knife

what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you have any particular worst year? do u think someone can just blend in, bill 1900 a year, and stay for at least 4-5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198912)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: Mind-boggling therapy

get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find easy billable work and go nuts on it, try and get work for the less shitty partners or where there is a cool midlevel or senior associate who acts as a buffer. my 1st year was the worse (came in as second year) b/c it took time to figure out how it all works. try not to freak out too much, it's what does a lot of junior associates in, they get themselves stressed as fukk all the time and quit within 2 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198951)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: High-end toilet seat knife

ty bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198966)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: peach house-broken property

How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year seems to intensely give a shit about and really just can't imagine myself ever caring that much, especially at 3 AM going on your 65th hour of the week. It's not all by choice either -- I find myself fucking up fairly easy stuff on a daily basis, even when I'm trying. Dumb typos, CC'ing the wrong people on emails, not following directions precisely, etc. The lack of sleep + intense time pressure def takes a toll on something which doesn't come too naturally anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198936)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Mind-boggling therapy

not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law school where they outlined like bitches and go crazy. you need to pace urself and figure out what to spend time on and what not to waste time with, a lot of the job appearance and not substance. focus on avoiding typos, short crisp sentences, loaded with case law (even if not really that applicable) and getting partners briefs that look like they are in good shape ahead of time. dont waste time trying to write brilliant prose or come up with amazing legal arguments. copy old briefs on your firms system with impunity. before u send emails out, print them out and read them line by line to check for typos, etc...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199004)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:49 PM
Author: peach house-broken property

Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like it's even more about being organized/keeping other people organized/making people look good than in it is in lit, though I'm not sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199034)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: at-the-ready out-of-control newt

was this the best poast on this bort in months?

why yes...it just might have been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199078)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 9:50 AM
Author: glassy erotic selfie area



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: Gaped Floppy Heaven

This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201021)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

burnout is flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201035)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: Mind-boggling therapy

nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to navigate biglaw. these are the types that unnecessarily pull all nighters or are always at the office non-stop, yet still always being put on the shittiest cases with the shittiest partners and act and look like Tweak from South Park.

also 90% of the YLS grads burn out, but for different reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201303)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so much time when i get better at doing stuff right quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201368)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: Mind-boggling therapy

make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver mentor, and ask him to show u the ropes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201384)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:42 PM
Author: Rose field

This.

I find myself having these exact same issues every day. I'm getting the sense that people are starting to get annoying, and I'm starting to get a reputation for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199599)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: multi-colored rigor

Thought I was the only one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200712)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:17 AM
Author: peach house-broken property

Every time I send an email to a client now, I spend the next 20 minutes waiting expectantly for the hyper-competent mid-level/senior associate who I CC'ed to catch something retarded I did and ask me to send an embarrassing follow-up. "Please disregard last attachment -- that was a earlier redline," "Apologies, David, inadvertently left you off this distribution," "Please see attached doc for corrected year on signature pages," etc. Then there's the shit they can't do anything about other than shake their head and lose faith in you, e.g., a typo in the subject line of all places, even after you spent 20 minutes proof-reading the body of a 100 word email to catch that shit. My most satisfying work moments now are just sending out an email and not cringing over something in it right after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200825)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:30 AM
Author: multi-colored rigor



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:38 AM
Author: swashbuckling dragon



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Date: March 14th, 2012 1:15 AM
Author: Yellow stimulating tanning salon

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201520)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:36 PM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: Concupiscible windowlicker keepsake machete

FMA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923106)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:49 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle violet base

Every time I used to click "send" I used to get this horrific feeling in my stomach, as though I just committed some crime or cheated on a gf or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923117)



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall



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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:33 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall



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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:36 PM
Author: drab den main people



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Date: December 6th, 2014 10:06 PM
Author: Glittery Pea-brained Tattoo



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle violet base



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:03 AM
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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:08 AM
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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: maize french chef

devastating 180

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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:27 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:03 AM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:05 AM
Author: charismatic theater stage sweet tailpipe

lol noob

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171442)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:18 PM
Author: flesh fortuitous meteor

LOL at your lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935685)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:28 PM
Author: marvelous submissive ceo

First year is fucking easy. It gets difficult when you get responsbility and are largely running deals on your own as a 5th year or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199440)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:33 PM
Author: Cyan lascivious sandwich center

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198838)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Salmon office half-breed

your definition of boutique is interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198923)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: Cyan lascivious sandwich center

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198964)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: violent theater

almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless they are really not client conscious at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199052)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Cyan lascivious sandwich center

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199155)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: Indigo bateful range

Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199051)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: at-the-ready out-of-control newt

this is a fear I have. That I suck at it. Not the people skills, I have that down, but the actual work. I have a good work ethic, I took all the classes in my area, but there really are right and wrong answers. If I suck, it would be obvious almost immediately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198896)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:30 PM
Author: Red cuckoldry

(tax associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923622)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: motley puce ladyboy

currently sucking. you just try to get better and take it like a man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198915)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:31 PM
Author: orchid histrionic organic girlfriend whorehouse

I am a 5th year, I found the first 1-3 years easy, then it starts to get a little harder as more responsibilities pile on.

The key to early success is (1) attention to detail (2) work hard, work late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199469)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:45 PM
Author: Rose field

This sounds right.

I think the OP, and myself, have the problem with your number 1. It doesn't come as easy to some people as others, and no matter how many times I edit something, there are typos that someone else finds and highlights.

Also basically being required to be an encyclopedia about all things you're working on, whenever anyone asks you questions about anything. I find that I barely understand, or can explain with any coherency, the stuff I'm doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199655)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: orchid histrionic organic girlfriend whorehouse

You can never be perfect, but try to keep stupid mistakes at a minimum. If you are like most people, you will never totally eliminate stupid mistakes, but don't make a string of them. I made plenty during my time. You won't get fired solely for this.

As for being organized, always make a list of things you need to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199686)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Transparent prole

i can't tell you how much i hate the phrase "attention to detail"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199675)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: orchid histrionic organic girlfriend whorehouse

I can't tell you how important it is to pay attention to detail. Not doing so is a great way to get fired fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199701)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: marvelous submissive ceo

It's actually pretty overrated. Understanding the big picture on your deal is much more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199778)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:56 PM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

guys at my high school misspelled debtor names on UCC-1s all the time, it was no big deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199792)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:02 PM
Author: marvelous submissive ceo

That's why the paralegal does the first draft and an associate reviews it and the UCC partner signs off on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199872)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: orchid histrionic organic girlfriend whorehouse

Understanding big picture unimportant as 1-2 year, becomes more important as 3-4 yr, furthermore, understanding big picture is easy, anyone not brain dead can do it. attention to detail requires some deliberate effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199913)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:19 AM
Author: marvelous submissive ceo

Nah, plenty of dumb fucks can proofread and turn my comments just fine. Far fewer have what it takes to take first cut at drafting or marking up primary deal documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200867)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:24 AM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

cr, i don't think i'll ever be able to do that. i have trouble with drafting basic ancillary shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200958)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:56 PM
Author: judgmental pink address

Every team needs a couple people who are "attention to detail" people. Not everyone has to excel in this area. In fact, most people who fixate on attention to detail tend to struggle in all of the creative/strategic/big picture aspects of legal work. You need a mix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923146)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol

As a junior, its all attention to detail though. At least that has been my experience in corporate. If detail is not your strong suit, I dont see how you avoid acquiring a reputation for carelessness by the time oppurtunities for creativity arise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923212)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle violet base

This is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923215)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol

Fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923226)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Godawful bbw state

This advice pretty much sums up why the job is so lame.

The key to LIFE succes at a big law job is to work hard enough to be good standing but not enough to make you miserable while you cash the checks and figure out something better to do with your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199679)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

yeah i kind of suck at this stuff. i thought i was a big alpha high LSAT bro, but it takes me for FUCKING EVER to get things perfect, and even if i have the luxury of spending as much time as i want to to get things just right, i know there's a good chance they're wrong anyway, and the worst of it is, sometimes the weird things i was uncertain about are overlooked, and others they're corrected, so i never know when to stop fussing about with bullshit that may or may not be meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199741)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

hint: it's all meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199756)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

student loans faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199760)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: orchid histrionic organic girlfriend whorehouse

Just quadruple check everything and bill all that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199927)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:10 AM
Author: big tantric kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173074)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: free-loading queen of the night church

i am very much like this. i've been in it for 5 and a half years so far. gets much better when you are working directly with a partner rather than some shithead senior associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199752)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:01 PM
Author: abusive incel home

Ugh, this is giving me bad memories. I wasn't type A at all, and I also began law believing there should be some loose association between the effort I expended and the value to the client. Once I realized that the partners had absolutely no issue with me moving well into the realm of diminishing returns on time (re-reading a brief for the 5th time to catch that double space formatting issue), it became a lot easier.

Ultimately I broke down because I got tired of billing my clients/friends for stuff I didn't think was very valuable. I do video game stuff now. Much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199864)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:03 PM
Author: High-end toilet seat knife

i do video game stuff too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199887)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: abusive incel home

:D

What kind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199901)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:07 PM
Author: High-end toilet seat knife

mostly just play COD but sometimes GTA vice city since it's backwards compatible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199943)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: Transparent prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199975)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: abusive incel home

Ahh, thought you worked for a game developer too.

I mostly play League of Legends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199977)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: avocado hyperactive sanctuary liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201042)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 11:53 AM
Author: Khaki Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26878217)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:11 AM
Author: big tantric kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173081)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: vivacious university goyim

(TMF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199922)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: Mauve trailer park

any normal person feels this way. only the super faggot gunners thrive and feel engaged by the endless rigmarole and niggling 'detail' work that you engage in as a 1st-3rd year biglaw drone.

follow the advice in this thread and just realize that the shit doesn't seriously matter and everybody is engaging in a professional culture that is akin to a mass hallucination. in reality the shit isn't important and the whole system is designed so that someone else will correct any of the useless errors you make. the horrifying culture of simpering admonishment and stress is just the natural byproduct of that system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201056)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:32 AM
Author: multi-colored rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201113)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle violet base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923626)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: Crawly business firm double fault

Consent solicitations being sent out to 10 bondholders. 3 of them have wrong addresses and arent delivered propery. You dont get supermajority approval and therefore client defaults on bonds and all of a sudden all of clients other securities are cross defaulted and they have to redeem 50 billion in securities.

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936185)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: Racy Sexy Pit Philosopher-king

(Faggot azn hyperventilating over this bullshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29937424)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:54 PM
Author: Crawly business firm double fault

(Idiot poasting on a law board about how stupid lawyers are)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939808)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: electric multi-billionaire

“propery”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799103)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: Aromatic Citrine Internal Respiration Bawdyhouse

Just remember its all complete flame. Many fields more important than law get away with txt typing 4 rill.

As for briefs, if you just type short sentences and avoid pretentious shit like semicolons your intent will be clear even if there are a couple of errors.

95% of what lawyers do is extraneous. So if something feels particularly useless, it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201392)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 2:28 AM
Author: swashbuckling dragon

i kind of wish every assignment and email were graded

(NOWAG)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201966)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: Light comical senate

This is me. I would thrive in a small lit boutique or shitlaw where my job wouldn't entail making outlines of 400 documents with cross references. But I need the money to pay off loans. Sucks that I can't practice what I want because I'm an indentured servant from loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923077)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:45 PM
Author: Razzle Duck-like Spot Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923099)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: vigorous temple national security agency

oh, what a high IQ tactician!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923180)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:13 PM
Author: Razzle Duck-like Spot Lettuce

? This is a board for high-iq peeps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923246)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

This was me, and I got quietly pushed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880144)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:33 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall

How long did you last?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880151)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:34 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

3 yrs (last yr was basically looking for new gig, writing was on wall even before the "sit down")

Reading comments above, I think one of my problems was I never got to start working with one partner - I was just bouncing between a few god-awful senior associates for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880158)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:36 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall

When did you realize you werent going to maek it in biglaw? Few months in?

What do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880166)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:37 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

I knew like the first month. Some people just aren't made to do it. I immediately started fantasizing about doing anything else. I just half-assed my way through the entire time there. I have a hard time stomaching the presence of assholes, and biglaw is full of them.

At literally no point was I like "wait ... maybe I WILL make a career out of this."

Doing something more chill now, not practicing. Still not 100% happy because I'm stuck in an area I don't really want to be, but it could be worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880177)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: Khaki Forum

so even tho u were completely checked out it still took them 3 years to fire u. lmfao. did u get severance at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880222)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

No, they just gave me time to find another job.

And yah, you'd have to affirmatively screw up in a big way to actually get canned earlier than that I think. I knew of a few people that happened to, but it was pretty egregious stuff (and at a bad time for biglaw).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880226)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:48 PM
Author: Khaki Forum

u prob could have copped a 6 month paid vacation if u had run the clock out on them. oh well. glad u landed on ur feet. im sure same will happen to me about a year from now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880235)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:47 AM
Author: Magical locus

I tried to do this for about 9 months of my last year of big law - it's amazing how much u can get away with when u stop caring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173347)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall

This is me. How much of a pay cut did you take? How'd you find the gig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880311)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: Khaki Forum

we're gonna make it mainlining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880373)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880427)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880573)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:26 PM
Author: Gold rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935743)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

Huge pay cut. Luckily I have no debt.

I found it after months of constant applying to jobs from school's database.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880523)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:06 PM
Author: Heady Carmine Milk

area as in region? where do you want to go?

what kind of gig are you in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880333)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Cracking rusted corner

Yah, region. I want to go somewhere with better weather/more outdoors shit to do. I'm kind of big on nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880520)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 7:41 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26881682)



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Date: November 12th, 2015 11:10 PM
Author: Odious Parlor Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171009)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: chocolate mischievous associate hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935639)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:12 PM
Author: Galvanic casino dog poop

That was me, and I lasted 9 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935651)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:22 PM
Author: Sapphire Bespoke Potus

what do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935717)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: talented nursing home toaster

How terrifying was the talk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936381)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: Crawly business firm double fault

Attention to detail is critical.

I saw a guy get fired on the spot for screwing up a number on a bank account thus delaying closing on a 5bn deal and another dude forgot one of the CP docs and the other side refused to sign until that was resolved which took an additiol 3 days.

Sending emails to wrong people is also a fireable offence in a highly confidential MA deal or litigation.

Typos and stuff makes you look stupid but isnt a big deal otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936142)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: talented nursing home toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936291)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:44 PM
Author: Misunderstood abode

Sending emails to the wrong people is my big fear...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936299)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: Crawly business firm double fault

Read out loud every single recipient of every email you send out when creating new email.

When replying to emails then just scan to make sure its right.

You need to be thinking actively at all times. Think, "who is my target audience and who needs to read this?" Thinking like that ensures you dont send to wrong people or miss someone.

I once sent something to the wrong person and had to have an awkward 3 way conference call with a partner and a GC as to what happened at 2am on a Saturday. The GC was like "but you guys are [v5 firm]! You honestly expect me to believe this was an honest mistake??"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936384)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 2:10 PM
Author: Sooty boyish indirect expression library

in lit. once sent opposing counsel some pretty confidential shit not realizing a third party (who was not under the protective order and really shouldn't be seeing the chain). thought id be shitcanned on the spot. luckily, third party counsel was chill bro who replied and said "hey take me off this list, ill just destroy this shit" and no fallout to me has come (yet).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936463)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: Crawly business firm double fault

Lucky us, seriously.

I knew a girl who did the same thing at another firm. Client emailed firm telling them to take her off the deal and never staff her on client matters ever again. She was let go that year. Sad thing is, after the incident she tried to blow it off like NBD and was like "see how hard it is to get fired from Biglaw?" Lulz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939848)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: brindle gunner orchestra pit

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799057)