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Anyone else just really suck at biglaw?

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's n...
Cyan deer antler crackhouse
  03/13/12
this is me and ive lasted 5 years
Domesticated umber elastic band address
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what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you ha...
Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid
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get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find ...
Domesticated umber elastic band address
  03/13/12
ty bro
Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid
  03/13/12
How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year s...
Cyan deer antler crackhouse
  03/13/12
not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law ...
Domesticated umber elastic band address
  03/13/12
Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like ...
Cyan deer antler crackhouse
  03/13/12
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This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several year...
mahogany arousing new version
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burnout is flame
puce sadistic box office feces
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nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to nav...
Domesticated umber elastic band address
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lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so m...
puce sadistic box office feces
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make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver me...
Domesticated umber elastic band address
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This. I find myself having these exact same issues every ...
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Thought I was the only one.
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your definition of boutique is interesting
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almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless t...
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Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.
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this is a fear I have. That I suck at it. Not the people s...
nudist field
  03/13/12
(tax associate)
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currently sucking. you just try to get better and take it li...
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I am a 5th year, I found the first 1-3 years easy, then it s...
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This sounds right. I think the OP, and myself, have the p...
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hint: it's all meaningless
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Just quadruple check everything and bill all that time
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i do video game stuff too
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This was me, and I got quietly pushed out.
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How long did you last?
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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: Cyan deer antler crackhouse

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's not hard or anything, but the sheer attention to detail, organization and compulsiveness that's required is something I've never had in any amount. Can't really see myself going from a fairly chilled out guy to a type-A ball-buster in a year or two either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198797)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: Domesticated umber elastic band address

this is me and ive lasted 5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198853)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid

what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you have any particular worst year? do u think someone can just blend in, bill 1900 a year, and stay for at least 4-5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198912)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: Domesticated umber elastic band address

get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find easy billable work and go nuts on it, try and get work for the less shitty partners or where there is a cool midlevel or senior associate who acts as a buffer. my 1st year was the worse (came in as second year) b/c it took time to figure out how it all works. try not to freak out too much, it's what does a lot of junior associates in, they get themselves stressed as fukk all the time and quit within 2 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198951)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid

ty bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198966)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: Cyan deer antler crackhouse

How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year seems to intensely give a shit about and really just can't imagine myself ever caring that much, especially at 3 AM going on your 65th hour of the week. It's not all by choice either -- I find myself fucking up fairly easy stuff on a daily basis, even when I'm trying. Dumb typos, CC'ing the wrong people on emails, not following directions precisely, etc. The lack of sleep + intense time pressure def takes a toll on something which doesn't come too naturally anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198936)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Domesticated umber elastic band address

not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law school where they outlined like bitches and go crazy. you need to pace urself and figure out what to spend time on and what not to waste time with, a lot of the job appearance and not substance. focus on avoiding typos, short crisp sentences, loaded with case law (even if not really that applicable) and getting partners briefs that look like they are in good shape ahead of time. dont waste time trying to write brilliant prose or come up with amazing legal arguments. copy old briefs on your firms system with impunity. before u send emails out, print them out and read them line by line to check for typos, etc...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199004)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:49 PM
Author: Cyan deer antler crackhouse

Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like it's even more about being organized/keeping other people organized/making people look good than in it is in lit, though I'm not sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199034)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: nudist field

was this the best poast on this bort in months?

why yes...it just might have been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199078)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 9:50 AM
Author: Soggy ruby parlour athletic conference



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: mahogany arousing new version

This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201021)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

burnout is flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201035)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: Domesticated umber elastic band address

nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to navigate biglaw. these are the types that unnecessarily pull all nighters or are always at the office non-stop, yet still always being put on the shittiest cases with the shittiest partners and act and look like Tweak from South Park.

also 90% of the YLS grads burn out, but for different reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201303)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so much time when i get better at doing stuff right quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201368)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: Domesticated umber elastic band address

make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver mentor, and ask him to show u the ropes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201384)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:42 PM
Author: haunting razzle home

This.

I find myself having these exact same issues every day. I'm getting the sense that people are starting to get annoying, and I'm starting to get a reputation for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199599)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: Slap-happy station hissy fit

Thought I was the only one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200712)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:17 AM
Author: Cyan deer antler crackhouse

Every time I send an email to a client now, I spend the next 20 minutes waiting expectantly for the hyper-competent mid-level/senior associate who I CC'ed to catch something retarded I did and ask me to send an embarrassing follow-up. "Please disregard last attachment -- that was a earlier redline," "Apologies, David, inadvertently left you off this distribution," "Please see attached doc for corrected year on signature pages," etc. Then there's the shit they can't do anything about other than shake their head and lose faith in you, e.g., a typo in the subject line of all places, even after you spent 20 minutes proof-reading the body of a 100 word email to catch that shit. My most satisfying work moments now are just sending out an email and not cringing over something in it right after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200825)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:30 AM
Author: Slap-happy station hissy fit



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:38 AM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces



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Date: March 14th, 2012 1:15 AM
Author: lascivious yellow public bath

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201520)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:36 PM
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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: Confused locus

FMA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923106)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:49 PM
Author: Nubile Costumed Multi-billionaire

Every time I used to click "send" I used to get this horrific feeling in my stomach, as though I just committed some crime or cheated on a gf or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923117)



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary



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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:33 PM
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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:36 PM
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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:47 PM
Author: Nubile Costumed Multi-billionaire



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: hairless chestnut theatre

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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:05 AM
Author: Vivacious dilemma water buffalo

lol noob

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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:18 PM
Author: Shimmering outnumbered office

LOL at your lives

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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:28 PM
Author: Dashing crystalline circlehead telephone

First year is fucking easy. It gets difficult when you get responsbility and are largely running deals on your own as a 5th year or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199440)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:33 PM
Author: Demanding Voyeur Coldplay Fan

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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Garnet soul-stirring business firm faggot firefighter

your definition of boutique is interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198923)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: Demanding Voyeur Coldplay Fan

...

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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Walnut Meetinghouse Police Squad

almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless they are really not client conscious at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199052)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Demanding Voyeur Coldplay Fan

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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: opaque wild parlor clown

Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199051)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: nudist field

this is a fear I have. That I suck at it. Not the people skills, I have that down, but the actual work. I have a good work ethic, I took all the classes in my area, but there really are right and wrong answers. If I suck, it would be obvious almost immediately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198896)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:30 PM
Author: Tan well-lubricated boiling water dog poop

(tax associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923622)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Motley Abusive Hospital

currently sucking. you just try to get better and take it like a man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198915)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:31 PM
Author: vengeful tank

I am a 5th year, I found the first 1-3 years easy, then it starts to get a little harder as more responsibilities pile on.

The key to early success is (1) attention to detail (2) work hard, work late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199469)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:45 PM
Author: haunting razzle home

This sounds right.

I think the OP, and myself, have the problem with your number 1. It doesn't come as easy to some people as others, and no matter how many times I edit something, there are typos that someone else finds and highlights.

Also basically being required to be an encyclopedia about all things you're working on, whenever anyone asks you questions about anything. I find that I barely understand, or can explain with any coherency, the stuff I'm doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199655)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: vengeful tank

You can never be perfect, but try to keep stupid mistakes at a minimum. If you are like most people, you will never totally eliminate stupid mistakes, but don't make a string of them. I made plenty during my time. You won't get fired solely for this.

As for being organized, always make a list of things you need to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199686)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: insanely creepy indirect expression

i can't tell you how much i hate the phrase "attention to detail"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199675)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: vengeful tank

I can't tell you how important it is to pay attention to detail. Not doing so is a great way to get fired fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199701)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: Dashing crystalline circlehead telephone

It's actually pretty overrated. Understanding the big picture on your deal is much more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199778)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:56 PM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

guys at my high school misspelled debtor names on UCC-1s all the time, it was no big deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199792)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:02 PM
Author: Dashing crystalline circlehead telephone

That's why the paralegal does the first draft and an associate reviews it and the UCC partner signs off on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199872)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: vengeful tank

Understanding big picture unimportant as 1-2 year, becomes more important as 3-4 yr, furthermore, understanding big picture is easy, anyone not brain dead can do it. attention to detail requires some deliberate effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199913)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:19 AM
Author: Dashing crystalline circlehead telephone

Nah, plenty of dumb fucks can proofread and turn my comments just fine. Far fewer have what it takes to take first cut at drafting or marking up primary deal documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200867)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:24 AM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

cr, i don't think i'll ever be able to do that. i have trouble with drafting basic ancillary shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200958)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:56 PM
Author: Exciting Area

Every team needs a couple people who are "attention to detail" people. Not everyone has to excel in this area. In fact, most people who fixate on attention to detail tend to struggle in all of the creative/strategic/big picture aspects of legal work. You need a mix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923146)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: anal point sound barrier

As a junior, its all attention to detail though. At least that has been my experience in corporate. If detail is not your strong suit, I dont see how you avoid acquiring a reputation for carelessness by the time oppurtunities for creativity arise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923212)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: Nubile Costumed Multi-billionaire

This is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923215)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: anal point sound barrier

Fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923226)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: bearded claret university chad

This advice pretty much sums up why the job is so lame.

The key to LIFE succes at a big law job is to work hard enough to be good standing but not enough to make you miserable while you cash the checks and figure out something better to do with your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199679)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

yeah i kind of suck at this stuff. i thought i was a big alpha high LSAT bro, but it takes me for FUCKING EVER to get things perfect, and even if i have the luxury of spending as much time as i want to to get things just right, i know there's a good chance they're wrong anyway, and the worst of it is, sometimes the weird things i was uncertain about are overlooked, and others they're corrected, so i never know when to stop fussing about with bullshit that may or may not be meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199741)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

hint: it's all meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199756)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

student loans faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199760)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: vengeful tank

Just quadruple check everything and bill all that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199927)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:10 AM
Author: lime milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173074)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: Appetizing ebony lettuce

i am very much like this. i've been in it for 5 and a half years so far. gets much better when you are working directly with a partner rather than some shithead senior associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199752)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:01 PM
Author: Bonkers Cruise Ship Macaca

Ugh, this is giving me bad memories. I wasn't type A at all, and I also began law believing there should be some loose association between the effort I expended and the value to the client. Once I realized that the partners had absolutely no issue with me moving well into the realm of diminishing returns on time (re-reading a brief for the 5th time to catch that double space formatting issue), it became a lot easier.

Ultimately I broke down because I got tired of billing my clients/friends for stuff I didn't think was very valuable. I do video game stuff now. Much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199864)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:03 PM
Author: Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid

i do video game stuff too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199887)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: Bonkers Cruise Ship Macaca

:D

What kind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199901)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:07 PM
Author: Milky Hyperactive Stage Hominid

mostly just play COD but sometimes GTA vice city since it's backwards compatible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199943)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: insanely creepy indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199975)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: Bonkers Cruise Ship Macaca

Ahh, thought you worked for a game developer too.

I mostly play League of Legends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199977)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: Razzmatazz big-titted gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201042)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 11:53 AM
Author: mewling dun boltzmann abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26878217)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:11 AM
Author: lime milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173081)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: disgusting rehab

(TMF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199922)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: Floppy very tactful brunch

any normal person feels this way. only the super faggot gunners thrive and feel engaged by the endless rigmarole and niggling 'detail' work that you engage in as a 1st-3rd year biglaw drone.

follow the advice in this thread and just realize that the shit doesn't seriously matter and everybody is engaging in a professional culture that is akin to a mass hallucination. in reality the shit isn't important and the whole system is designed so that someone else will correct any of the useless errors you make. the horrifying culture of simpering admonishment and stress is just the natural byproduct of that system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201056)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:32 AM
Author: Slap-happy station hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201113)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: Nubile Costumed Multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923626)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: Ungodly Den

Consent solicitations being sent out to 10 bondholders. 3 of them have wrong addresses and arent delivered propery. You dont get supermajority approval and therefore client defaults on bonds and all of a sudden all of clients other securities are cross defaulted and they have to redeem 50 billion in securities.

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936185)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: Snowy internet-worthy generalized bond

(Faggot azn hyperventilating over this bullshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29937424)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:54 PM
Author: Ungodly Den

(Idiot poasting on a law board about how stupid lawyers are)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939808)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: purple juggernaut

“propery”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799103)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: sienna bbw

Just remember its all complete flame. Many fields more important than law get away with txt typing 4 rill.

As for briefs, if you just type short sentences and avoid pretentious shit like semicolons your intent will be clear even if there are a couple of errors.

95% of what lawyers do is extraneous. So if something feels particularly useless, it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201392)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 2:28 AM
Author: puce sadistic box office feces

i kind of wish every assignment and email were graded

(NOWAG)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201966)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: cocky cuckold senate

This is me. I would thrive in a small lit boutique or shitlaw where my job wouldn't entail making outlines of 400 documents with cross references. But I need the money to pay off loans. Sucks that I can't practice what I want because I'm an indentured servant from loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923077)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:45 PM
Author: Amber Startling Selfie Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923099)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: violet incel

oh, what a high IQ tactician!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923180)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:13 PM
Author: Amber Startling Selfie Mood

? This is a board for high-iq peeps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923246)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

This was me, and I got quietly pushed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880144)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:33 PM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary

How long did you last?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880151)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:34 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

3 yrs (last yr was basically looking for new gig, writing was on wall even before the "sit down")

Reading comments above, I think one of my problems was I never got to start working with one partner - I was just bouncing between a few god-awful senior associates for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880158)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:36 PM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary

When did you realize you werent going to maek it in biglaw? Few months in?

What do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880166)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:37 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

I knew like the first month. Some people just aren't made to do it. I immediately started fantasizing about doing anything else. I just half-assed my way through the entire time there. I have a hard time stomaching the presence of assholes, and biglaw is full of them.

At literally no point was I like "wait ... maybe I WILL make a career out of this."

Doing something more chill now, not practicing. Still not 100% happy because I'm stuck in an area I don't really want to be, but it could be worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880177)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: mewling dun boltzmann abode

so even tho u were completely checked out it still took them 3 years to fire u. lmfao. did u get severance at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880222)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

No, they just gave me time to find another job.

And yah, you'd have to affirmatively screw up in a big way to actually get canned earlier than that I think. I knew of a few people that happened to, but it was pretty egregious stuff (and at a bad time for biglaw).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880226)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:48 PM
Author: mewling dun boltzmann abode

u prob could have copped a 6 month paid vacation if u had run the clock out on them. oh well. glad u landed on ur feet. im sure same will happen to me about a year from now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880235)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:47 AM
Author: Chest-beating Electric Corner

I tried to do this for about 9 months of my last year of big law - it's amazing how much u can get away with when u stop caring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173347)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary

This is me. How much of a pay cut did you take? How'd you find the gig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880311)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: mewling dun boltzmann abode

we're gonna make it mainlining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880373)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880427)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: anal point sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880573)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:26 PM
Author: buff insecure corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935743)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

Huge pay cut. Luckily I have no debt.

I found it after months of constant applying to jobs from school's database.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880523)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:06 PM
Author: Greedy Kitty Cat

area as in region? where do you want to go?

what kind of gig are you in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880333)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Cerebral Orange Property

Yah, region. I want to go somewhere with better weather/more outdoors shit to do. I'm kind of big on nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880520)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 7:41 PM
Author: Learning disabled histrionic persian sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26881682)



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Date: November 12th, 2015 11:10 PM
Author: anal point sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171009)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: bateful psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935639)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:12 PM
Author: slimy bat-shit-crazy stead

That was me, and I lasted 9 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935651)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:22 PM
Author: Pea-brained black gaping skinny woman

what do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935717)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: clear mad cow disease

How terrifying was the talk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936381)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: Ungodly Den

Attention to detail is critical.

I saw a guy get fired on the spot for screwing up a number on a bank account thus delaying closing on a 5bn deal and another dude forgot one of the CP docs and the other side refused to sign until that was resolved which took an additiol 3 days.

Sending emails to wrong people is also a fireable offence in a highly confidential MA deal or litigation.

Typos and stuff makes you look stupid but isnt a big deal otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936142)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: clear mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936291)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:44 PM
Author: khaki aromatic center

Sending emails to the wrong people is my big fear...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936299)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: Ungodly Den

Read out loud every single recipient of every email you send out when creating new email.

When replying to emails then just scan to make sure its right.

You need to be thinking actively at all times. Think, "who is my target audience and who needs to read this?" Thinking like that ensures you dont send to wrong people or miss someone.

I once sent something to the wrong person and had to have an awkward 3 way conference call with a partner and a GC as to what happened at 2am on a Saturday. The GC was like "but you guys are [v5 firm]! You honestly expect me to believe this was an honest mistake??"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936384)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 2:10 PM
Author: Vigorous Turquoise Ape Main People

in lit. once sent opposing counsel some pretty confidential shit not realizing a third party (who was not under the protective order and really shouldn't be seeing the chain). thought id be shitcanned on the spot. luckily, third party counsel was chill bro who replied and said "hey take me off this list, ill just destroy this shit" and no fallout to me has come (yet).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936463)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: Ungodly Den

Lucky us, seriously.

I knew a girl who did the same thing at another firm. Client emailed firm telling them to take her off the deal and never staff her on client matters ever again. She was let go that year. Sad thing is, after the incident she tried to blow it off like NBD and was like "see how hard it is to get fired from Biglaw?" Lulz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939848)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: Racy national security agency

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799057)