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Anyone else just really suck at biglaw?

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's n...
Appetizing peach hall
  03/13/12
this is me and ive lasted 5 years
confused office
  03/13/12
what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you ha...
Bull headed violent address
  03/13/12
get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find ...
confused office
  03/13/12
ty bro
Bull headed violent address
  03/13/12
How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year s...
Appetizing peach hall
  03/13/12
not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law ...
confused office
  03/13/12
Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like ...
Appetizing peach hall
  03/13/12
was this the best poast on this bort in months? why yes.....
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Effete Meetinghouse Electric Furnace
  03/14/12
This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several year...
adventurous round eye love of her life
  03/14/12
burnout is flame
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/14/12
nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to nav...
confused office
  03/14/12
lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so m...
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/14/12
make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver me...
confused office
  03/14/12
This. I find myself having these exact same issues every ...
flatulent theater stage
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Thought I was the only one.
arousing talking digit ratio
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Every time I send an email to a client now, I spend the next...
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lol noob
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LOL at your lives
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First year is fucking easy. It gets difficult when you get ...
Harsh goal in life
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passionate iridescent center
  03/13/12
your definition of boutique is interesting
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passionate iridescent center
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almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless t...
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passionate iridescent center
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Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.
Aromatic khaki box office
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this is a fear I have. That I suck at it. Not the people s...
Sienna school cafeteria
  03/13/12
(tax associate)
Cobalt Jewess Windowlicker
  07/13/14
currently sucking. you just try to get better and take it li...
Bright drunken garrison pisswyrm
  03/13/12
I am a 5th year, I found the first 1-3 years easy, then it s...
Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan
  03/13/12
This sounds right. I think the OP, and myself, have the p...
flatulent theater stage
  03/13/12
You can never be perfect, but try to keep stupid mistakes at...
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i can't tell you how much i hate the phrase "attention ...
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I can't tell you how important it is to pay attention to det...
Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan
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It's actually pretty overrated. Understanding the big pictu...
Harsh goal in life
  03/13/12
guys at my high school misspelled debtor names on UCC-1s all...
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
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That's why the paralegal does the first draft and an associa...
Harsh goal in life
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Understanding big picture unimportant as 1-2 year, becomes m...
Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan
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Nah, plenty of dumb fucks can proofread and turn my comments...
Harsh goal in life
  03/14/12
cr, i don't think i'll ever be able to do that. i have trou...
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/14/12
Every team needs a couple people who are "attention to ...
lemon den
  07/13/14
As a junior, its all attention to detail though. At least th...
cheese-eating emerald market
  07/13/14
This is right.
odious feces
  07/13/14
Fuck
cheese-eating emerald market
  07/13/14
This advice pretty much sums up why the job is so lame. T...
Vivacious juggernaut
  03/13/12
yeah i kind of suck at this stuff. i thought i was a big al...
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/13/12
hint: it's all meaningless
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/13/12
student loans faggot
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/13/12
Just quadruple check everything and bill all that time
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Talented cyan nibblets
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i am very much like this. i've been in it for 5 and a half y...
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Ugh, this is giving me bad memories. I wasn't type A at all,...
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  03/13/12
i do video game stuff too
Bull headed violent address
  03/13/12
:D What kind?
tripping twinkling useless brakes stage
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mostly just play COD but sometimes GTA vice city since it's ...
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any normal person feels this way. only the super faggot gun...
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arousing talking digit ratio
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odious feces
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Consent solicitations being sent out to 10 bondholders. 3 of...
blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested
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(Faggot azn hyperventilating over this bullshit)
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(Idiot poasting on a law board about how stupid lawyers are)...
blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested
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“propery”
Bistre private investor resort
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Just remember its all complete flame. Many fields more impor...
concupiscible obsidian field
  03/14/12
i kind of wish every assignment and email were graded (NO...
Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor
  03/14/12
This is me. I would thrive in a small lit boutique or shitla...
Trip Laser Beams
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Snowy Stead Dingle Berry
  07/13/14
oh, what a high IQ tactician!
lavender trailer park
  07/13/14
? This is a board for high-iq peeps
Snowy Stead Dingle Berry
  07/13/14
This was me, and I got quietly pushed out.
cerebral piazza
  12/07/14
How long did you last?
Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home
  12/07/14
3 yrs (last yr was basically looking for new gig, writing wa...
cerebral piazza
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When did you realize you werent going to maek it in biglaw? ...
Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home
  12/07/14
I knew like the first month. Some people just aren't made to...
cerebral piazza
  12/07/14
so even tho u were completely checked out it still took them...
fishy rehab
  12/07/14
No, they just gave me time to find another job. And yah,...
cerebral piazza
  12/07/14
u prob could have copped a 6 month paid vacation if u had ru...
fishy rehab
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I tried to do this for about 9 months of my last year of big...
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This is me. How much of a pay cut did you take? How'd you fi...
Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home
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we're gonna make it mainlining
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Huge pay cut. Luckily I have no debt. I found it after mo...
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  12/07/14
area as in region? where do you want to go? what kind of ...
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Yah, region. I want to go somewhere with better weather/more...
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That was me, and I lasted 9 months.
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what do you do now?
dull milk
  02/28/16
How terrifying was the talk?
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Attention to detail is critical. I saw a guy get fired on...
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Read out loud every single recipient of every email you send...
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in lit. once sent opposing counsel some pretty confidential...
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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: Appetizing peach hall

Am starting to realize I may just suck at this stuff. It's not hard or anything, but the sheer attention to detail, organization and compulsiveness that's required is something I've never had in any amount. Can't really see myself going from a fairly chilled out guy to a type-A ball-buster in a year or two either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198797)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: confused office

this is me and ive lasted 5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198853)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Bull headed violent address

what's ur story man? was 1st year the hardest or did you have any particular worst year? do u think someone can just blend in, bill 1900 a year, and stay for at least 4-5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198912)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: confused office

get on a lot of doc review and other easy assignments, find easy billable work and go nuts on it, try and get work for the less shitty partners or where there is a cool midlevel or senior associate who acts as a buffer. my 1st year was the worse (came in as second year) b/c it took time to figure out how it all works. try not to freak out too much, it's what does a lot of junior associates in, they get themselves stressed as fukk all the time and quit within 2 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198951)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: Bull headed violent address

ty bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198966)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: Appetizing peach hall

How? I look at the sort of stuff that the average 3rd year seems to intensely give a shit about and really just can't imagine myself ever caring that much, especially at 3 AM going on your 65th hour of the week. It's not all by choice either -- I find myself fucking up fairly easy stuff on a daily basis, even when I'm trying. Dumb typos, CC'ing the wrong people on emails, not following directions precisely, etc. The lack of sleep + intense time pressure def takes a toll on something which doesn't come too naturally anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198936)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: confused office

not caring goes a long way. gunners treat the job like law school where they outlined like bitches and go crazy. you need to pace urself and figure out what to spend time on and what not to waste time with, a lot of the job appearance and not substance. focus on avoiding typos, short crisp sentences, loaded with case law (even if not really that applicable) and getting partners briefs that look like they are in good shape ahead of time. dont waste time trying to write brilliant prose or come up with amazing legal arguments. copy old briefs on your firms system with impunity. before u send emails out, print them out and read them line by line to check for typos, etc...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199004)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:49 PM
Author: Appetizing peach hall

Ya. I'm corporate, so at this stage (1st year), I feel like it's even more about being organized/keeping other people organized/making people look good than in it is in lit, though I'm not sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199034)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: Sienna school cafeteria

was this the best poast on this bort in months?

why yes...it just might have been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199078)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 9:50 AM
Author: Effete Meetinghouse Electric Furnace



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: adventurous round eye love of her life

This is good advice. Follow it and you'll last several years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201021)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:28 AM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

burnout is flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201035)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: confused office

nah. some people are really horrible at learning how to navigate biglaw. these are the types that unnecessarily pull all nighters or are always at the office non-stop, yet still always being put on the shittiest cases with the shittiest partners and act and look like Tweak from South Park.

also 90% of the YLS grads burn out, but for different reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201303)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

lulz, this sounds like me, but i expect to stop wasting so much time when i get better at doing stuff right quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201368)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: confused office

make friends with a chill midlevel, not ur dweeby striver mentor, and ask him to show u the ropes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201384)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:42 PM
Author: flatulent theater stage

This.

I find myself having these exact same issues every day. I'm getting the sense that people are starting to get annoying, and I'm starting to get a reputation for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199599)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: arousing talking digit ratio

Thought I was the only one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200712)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:17 AM
Author: Appetizing peach hall

Every time I send an email to a client now, I spend the next 20 minutes waiting expectantly for the hyper-competent mid-level/senior associate who I CC'ed to catch something retarded I did and ask me to send an embarrassing follow-up. "Please disregard last attachment -- that was a earlier redline," "Apologies, David, inadvertently left you off this distribution," "Please see attached doc for corrected year on signature pages," etc. Then there's the shit they can't do anything about other than shake their head and lose faith in you, e.g., a typo in the subject line of all places, even after you spent 20 minutes proof-reading the body of a 100 word email to catch that shit. My most satisfying work moments now are just sending out an email and not cringing over something in it right after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200825)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:30 AM
Author: arousing talking digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201063)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:38 AM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201188)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 1:15 AM
Author: amber frum whorehouse persian

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201520)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:36 PM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: Domesticated karate

FMA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923106)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:49 PM
Author: odious feces

Every time I used to click "send" I used to get this horrific feeling in my stomach, as though I just committed some crime or cheated on a gf or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923117)



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home



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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:33 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home



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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:36 PM
Author: rebellious electric bawdyhouse



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Date: December 6th, 2014 10:06 PM
Author: Balding Stage Legal Warrant



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:47 PM
Author: odious feces



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:03 AM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171427)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:08 AM
Author: Talented cyan nibblets



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: clear mildly autistic indian lodge

devastating 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936190)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 9:08 PM
Author: honey-headed candlestick maker philosopher-king



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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:53 PM
Author: vermilion area



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:23 AM
Author: exciting coral range



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 11:27 AM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:03 AM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market



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Date: November 13th, 2015 12:05 AM
Author: Insanely creepy judgmental site toaster

lol noob

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171442)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:18 PM
Author: Poppy ape pozpig

LOL at your lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935685)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:03 PM
Author: grizzly impertinent station masturbator



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:28 PM
Author: Harsh goal in life

First year is fucking easy. It gets difficult when you get responsbility and are largely running deals on your own as a 5th year or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199440)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:33 PM
Author: passionate iridescent center

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198838)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Idiotic tanning salon

your definition of boutique is interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198923)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: passionate iridescent center

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198964)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: deranged multi-billionaire

almost every small firm calls themselves a boutique unless they are really not client conscious at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199052)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: passionate iridescent center

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199155)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: Aromatic khaki box office

Not sure if shitlaw or boutique.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199051)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: Sienna school cafeteria

this is a fear I have. That I suck at it. Not the people skills, I have that down, but the actual work. I have a good work ethic, I took all the classes in my area, but there really are right and wrong answers. If I suck, it would be obvious almost immediately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198896)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:30 PM
Author: Cobalt Jewess Windowlicker

(tax associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923622)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Bright drunken garrison pisswyrm

currently sucking. you just try to get better and take it like a man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20198915)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:31 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan

I am a 5th year, I found the first 1-3 years easy, then it starts to get a little harder as more responsibilities pile on.

The key to early success is (1) attention to detail (2) work hard, work late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199469)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:45 PM
Author: flatulent theater stage

This sounds right.

I think the OP, and myself, have the problem with your number 1. It doesn't come as easy to some people as others, and no matter how many times I edit something, there are typos that someone else finds and highlights.

Also basically being required to be an encyclopedia about all things you're working on, whenever anyone asks you questions about anything. I find that I barely understand, or can explain with any coherency, the stuff I'm doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199655)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan

You can never be perfect, but try to keep stupid mistakes at a minimum. If you are like most people, you will never totally eliminate stupid mistakes, but don't make a string of them. I made plenty during my time. You won't get fired solely for this.

As for being organized, always make a list of things you need to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199686)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: big orchestra pit degenerate

i can't tell you how much i hate the phrase "attention to detail"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199675)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan

I can't tell you how important it is to pay attention to detail. Not doing so is a great way to get fired fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199701)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: Harsh goal in life

It's actually pretty overrated. Understanding the big picture on your deal is much more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199778)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:56 PM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

guys at my high school misspelled debtor names on UCC-1s all the time, it was no big deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199792)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:02 PM
Author: Harsh goal in life

That's why the paralegal does the first draft and an associate reviews it and the UCC partner signs off on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199872)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan

Understanding big picture unimportant as 1-2 year, becomes more important as 3-4 yr, furthermore, understanding big picture is easy, anyone not brain dead can do it. attention to detail requires some deliberate effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199913)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:19 AM
Author: Harsh goal in life

Nah, plenty of dumb fucks can proofread and turn my comments just fine. Far fewer have what it takes to take first cut at drafting or marking up primary deal documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200867)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:24 AM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

cr, i don't think i'll ever be able to do that. i have trouble with drafting basic ancillary shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20200958)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:56 PM
Author: lemon den

Every team needs a couple people who are "attention to detail" people. Not everyone has to excel in this area. In fact, most people who fixate on attention to detail tend to struggle in all of the creative/strategic/big picture aspects of legal work. You need a mix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923146)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market

As a junior, its all attention to detail though. At least that has been my experience in corporate. If detail is not your strong suit, I dont see how you avoid acquiring a reputation for carelessness by the time oppurtunities for creativity arise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923212)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: odious feces

This is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923215)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market

Fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923226)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Vivacious juggernaut

This advice pretty much sums up why the job is so lame.

The key to LIFE succes at a big law job is to work hard enough to be good standing but not enough to make you miserable while you cash the checks and figure out something better to do with your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199679)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

yeah i kind of suck at this stuff. i thought i was a big alpha high LSAT bro, but it takes me for FUCKING EVER to get things perfect, and even if i have the luxury of spending as much time as i want to to get things just right, i know there's a good chance they're wrong anyway, and the worst of it is, sometimes the weird things i was uncertain about are overlooked, and others they're corrected, so i never know when to stop fussing about with bullshit that may or may not be meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199741)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

hint: it's all meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199756)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

student loans faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199760)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Crackhouse Coldplay Fan

Just quadruple check everything and bill all that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199927)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:10 AM
Author: Talented cyan nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173074)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: comical charcoal idiot theater

i am very much like this. i've been in it for 5 and a half years so far. gets much better when you are working directly with a partner rather than some shithead senior associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199752)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:01 PM
Author: tripping twinkling useless brakes stage

Ugh, this is giving me bad memories. I wasn't type A at all, and I also began law believing there should be some loose association between the effort I expended and the value to the client. Once I realized that the partners had absolutely no issue with me moving well into the realm of diminishing returns on time (re-reading a brief for the 5th time to catch that double space formatting issue), it became a lot easier.

Ultimately I broke down because I got tired of billing my clients/friends for stuff I didn't think was very valuable. I do video game stuff now. Much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199864)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:03 PM
Author: Bull headed violent address

i do video game stuff too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199887)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: tripping twinkling useless brakes stage

:D

What kind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199901)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:07 PM
Author: Bull headed violent address

mostly just play COD but sometimes GTA vice city since it's backwards compatible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199943)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: big orchestra pit degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199975)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: tripping twinkling useless brakes stage

Ahh, thought you worked for a game developer too.

I mostly play League of Legends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199977)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: soul-stirring erotic chapel tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201042)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 11:53 AM
Author: fishy rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26878217)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:11 AM
Author: Talented cyan nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173081)



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Date: March 13th, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: Flesh temple clown

(TMF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20199922)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:29 AM
Author: Lime point puppy

any normal person feels this way. only the super faggot gunners thrive and feel engaged by the endless rigmarole and niggling 'detail' work that you engage in as a 1st-3rd year biglaw drone.

follow the advice in this thread and just realize that the shit doesn't seriously matter and everybody is engaging in a professional culture that is akin to a mass hallucination. in reality the shit isn't important and the whole system is designed so that someone else will correct any of the useless errors you make. the horrifying culture of simpering admonishment and stress is just the natural byproduct of that system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201056)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:32 AM
Author: arousing talking digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201113)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: odious feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923626)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested

Consent solicitations being sent out to 10 bondholders. 3 of them have wrong addresses and arent delivered propery. You dont get supermajority approval and therefore client defaults on bonds and all of a sudden all of clients other securities are cross defaulted and they have to redeem 50 billion in securities.

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936185)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: flirting community account sanctuary

(Faggot azn hyperventilating over this bullshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29937424)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:54 PM
Author: blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested

(Idiot poasting on a law board about how stupid lawyers are)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939808)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: Bistre private investor resort

“propery”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799103)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: concupiscible obsidian field

Just remember its all complete flame. Many fields more important than law get away with txt typing 4 rill.

As for briefs, if you just type short sentences and avoid pretentious shit like semicolons your intent will be clear even if there are a couple of errors.

95% of what lawyers do is extraneous. So if something feels particularly useless, it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201392)



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Date: March 14th, 2012 2:28 AM
Author: Sick misanthropic lay fortuitous meteor

i kind of wish every assignment and email were graded

(NOWAG)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#20201966)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: Trip Laser Beams

This is me. I would thrive in a small lit boutique or shitlaw where my job wouldn't entail making outlines of 400 documents with cross references. But I need the money to pay off loans. Sucks that I can't practice what I want because I'm an indentured servant from loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923077)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 2:45 PM
Author: Snowy Stead Dingle Berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923099)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: lavender trailer park

oh, what a high IQ tactician!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923180)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 3:13 PM
Author: Snowy Stead Dingle Berry

? This is a board for high-iq peeps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#25923246)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

This was me, and I got quietly pushed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880144)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:33 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home

How long did you last?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880151)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:34 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

3 yrs (last yr was basically looking for new gig, writing was on wall even before the "sit down")

Reading comments above, I think one of my problems was I never got to start working with one partner - I was just bouncing between a few god-awful senior associates for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880158)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:36 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home

When did you realize you werent going to maek it in biglaw? Few months in?

What do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880166)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:37 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

I knew like the first month. Some people just aren't made to do it. I immediately started fantasizing about doing anything else. I just half-assed my way through the entire time there. I have a hard time stomaching the presence of assholes, and biglaw is full of them.

At literally no point was I like "wait ... maybe I WILL make a career out of this."

Doing something more chill now, not practicing. Still not 100% happy because I'm stuck in an area I don't really want to be, but it could be worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880177)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: fishy rehab

so even tho u were completely checked out it still took them 3 years to fire u. lmfao. did u get severance at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880222)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:45 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

No, they just gave me time to find another job.

And yah, you'd have to affirmatively screw up in a big way to actually get canned earlier than that I think. I knew of a few people that happened to, but it was pretty egregious stuff (and at a bad time for biglaw).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880226)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 4:48 PM
Author: fishy rehab

u prob could have copped a 6 month paid vacation if u had run the clock out on them. oh well. glad u landed on ur feet. im sure same will happen to me about a year from now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880235)



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Date: November 13th, 2015 11:47 AM
Author: Unholy white shrine party of the first part

I tried to do this for about 9 months of my last year of big law - it's amazing how much u can get away with when u stop caring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29173347)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home

This is me. How much of a pay cut did you take? How'd you find the gig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880311)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: fishy rehab

we're gonna make it mainlining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880373)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880427)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880573)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:26 PM
Author: elite green sweet tailpipe immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935743)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

Huge pay cut. Luckily I have no debt.

I found it after months of constant applying to jobs from school's database.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880523)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:06 PM
Author: Multi-colored lake base mexican

area as in region? where do you want to go?

what kind of gig are you in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880333)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: cerebral piazza

Yah, region. I want to go somewhere with better weather/more outdoors shit to do. I'm kind of big on nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26880520)



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Date: December 7th, 2014 7:41 PM
Author: Citrine exhilarant depressive nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#26881682)



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Date: November 12th, 2015 11:10 PM
Author: cheese-eating emerald market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29171009)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: Plum trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935639)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:12 PM
Author: lascivious weed whacker

That was me, and I lasted 9 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935651)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:22 PM
Author: dull milk

what do you do now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29935717)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: Excitant primrose menage new version

How terrifying was the talk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936381)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested

Attention to detail is critical.

I saw a guy get fired on the spot for screwing up a number on a bank account thus delaying closing on a 5bn deal and another dude forgot one of the CP docs and the other side refused to sign until that was resolved which took an additiol 3 days.

Sending emails to wrong people is also a fireable offence in a highly confidential MA deal or litigation.

Typos and stuff makes you look stupid but isnt a big deal otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936142)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: Excitant primrose menage new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936291)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:44 PM
Author: Translucent Circlehead Forum

Sending emails to the wrong people is my big fear...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936299)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested

Read out loud every single recipient of every email you send out when creating new email.

When replying to emails then just scan to make sure its right.

You need to be thinking actively at all times. Think, "who is my target audience and who needs to read this?" Thinking like that ensures you dont send to wrong people or miss someone.

I once sent something to the wrong person and had to have an awkward 3 way conference call with a partner and a GC as to what happened at 2am on a Saturday. The GC was like "but you guys are [v5 firm]! You honestly expect me to believe this was an honest mistake??"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936384)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 2:10 PM
Author: rambunctious plaza mother

in lit. once sent opposing counsel some pretty confidential shit not realizing a third party (who was not under the protective order and really shouldn't be seeing the chain). thought id be shitcanned on the spot. luckily, third party counsel was chill bro who replied and said "hey take me off this list, ill just destroy this shit" and no fallout to me has come (yet).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29936463)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: blathering step-uncle's house idea he suggested

Lucky us, seriously.

I knew a girl who did the same thing at another firm. Client emailed firm telling them to take her off the deal and never staff her on client matters ever again. She was let go that year. Sad thing is, after the incident she tried to blow it off like NBD and was like "see how hard it is to get fired from Biglaw?" Lulz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#29939848)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: grizzly impertinent station masturbator

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1897159&forum_id=2#40799057)