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Walked out of doc review job, started crying today.

I cannot believe this is what my life has become. I graduat...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
wtf, is this flame
azure heady boltzmann
  03/22/12
No, and tbf, at least in my personal experience doing doc re...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
From the description of the doc review offices, I would say ...
Mind-boggling kitty library
  03/22/12
Your a fuckin idiot. You take shit like this and you are st...
Titillating Snowy Public Bath
  03/22/12
lol at applying for and getting a fed job if you're not a bl...
jet-lagged electric furnace
  03/22/12
yeah, this advice is up there with "just win the lotto&...
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  03/23/12
...
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  03/23/12
*honestly doesn't understand why someone $799,000 in debt ca...
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  03/23/12
Its call IBR. It doesnt matter how much his debt is. Also,...
Titillating Snowy Public Bath
  03/23/12
*honestly thinks that taking a longer time to pay down debt ...
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  03/23/12
It get forgiven, tax free after 120 consecutive payments, mo...
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  03/23/12
Applying for fed jobs is thinking inside the box.
French den halford
  03/23/12
sounds like u work in chinese ipad factory bro, sorry man
violet feces
  03/22/12
lol, when I was reading his description of the office I ques...
marvelous temple
  03/23/12
This crap belongs at JDU http://www.jdunderground.com/docre...
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  03/23/12
Wow an entire section devoted to doc review?
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  03/23/12
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  09/02/12
It's hard to feel sad for most lawyers because they only car...
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  03/23/12
You feel sorry for the whole fucking profession. I'm sure mo...
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  03/23/12
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  11/28/13
You seem like a well-adjusted bro
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  11/28/13
This entire sob story is about the sad doc reviewer. There i...
Pearl odious mad-dog skullcap
  03/23/12
the whole crying thing is really not going to help society's...
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  03/22/12
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  11/28/13
so how did that decision to go to law school work out for yo...
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  03/22/12
: (
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
The supply of lawyers was so large because there are so many...
Pearl odious mad-dog skullcap
  03/23/12
hey dude i am in the same boat. Yeah some projects are shit...
big stag film
  03/22/12
Brother, I wish that was true. I've had NO luck with Shitla...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
If that's the case, the only way for you to do law stuff is ...
big stag film
  03/22/12
Been taking online accounting courses, brother.
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
at the secondary market I'm in, if you sent in a resume w/ a...
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  03/23/12
what's the pay like? what happens if you talk to your cowork...
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  03/22/12
$33/hr. Not sure, nobody talks.
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
they hit you with a bullwhip
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  03/23/12
Greetings, LOL JUST LOL AT NYC BIGLAW You should move to T...
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  03/22/12
Fuck that bro. Talk to your agency. They work for you. Tell ...
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Bro, the agencies don't give a fuck. We are just Soylent Gr...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
That's WHY you walk bro.
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  03/23/12
Nearly all of them, from what I hear from my old NYC friends...
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  03/22/12
WHAT THE FUCK
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  03/22/12
holy fuck!
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wholly shit, that reads like an excerpt from a dystopian nov...
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jesus christ....this is REALLY fucking sad. though I did lau...
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  03/22/12
This poast about his co-worker who called himself Gandhi had...
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  03/22/12
this is amazing
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  03/22/12
true 180 material
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jesus
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  03/23/12
I legit loled several times.
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  03/23/12
(like prison, most people in doc review have "street na...
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  03/23/12
The comparisons to prison are fantastic. Seriously, this gu...
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  03/23/12
This.
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Dood's personal history: I graduated in 2004 from an NYC ...
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  03/22/12
this guy is a hero
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You'd be really surprised (stunned really) if you spent a fe...
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  03/22/12
"you went to NYU are are working HERE? With us losers?&...
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  03/22/12
Holy shit! The pizza thing is spot on. Glad my doc review ...
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  03/23/12
Out of curiosity, what are you doing now?
Mind-boggling kitty library
  03/23/12
lol
violet feces
  03/23/12
There are people from all kinds of good schools: NYU, Emory,...
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  11/27/15
do you think being an accountant and crunching the same numb...
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  03/23/12
TBF, doc review, based on everything I've heard sounds fucki...
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  03/23/12
accounting is boring and repetitive but it is nothing like t...
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  11/28/13
Reading that entire thread. That guy is awesome.
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  03/23/12
To me, this whole thing was one giant advertisement for why ...
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cr I don't understand how anyone can put up with NYC with...
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whoa whoa whoa, let's keep this shit on JDU hell, let's k...
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  03/22/12
I literally lost all hoap.
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
I made 130k one year doing foreign language document review....
big stag film
  03/22/12
Holy fuck. What language?
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
No Japanese. but i got lucky and had a long term project wi...
big stag film
  03/22/12
Is that project over? Have you been able to land more forei...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
Foreign language work for me has been spotty.
big stag film
  03/22/12
Yea, I am not Japanese either, so I don't know how in-demand...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
Greetings, Yeah, there was some azn language doc review in ...
trip pistol
  03/22/12
brother, if you knew japanese you could do 85/hr and work re...
big stag film
  03/22/12
Greetings, Brother, I put my resume up on Monster.com while...
trip pistol
  03/22/12
Yes, but a mans gotta eat.
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  03/22/12
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  03/22/12
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this I omit and lie about all sorts of shit on my resume....
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  03/23/12
Greetings, yes, but then you're working 8+ hour days when y...
trip pistol
  03/23/12
why would you do doc review? shitlaw is better than that. i'...
vigorous amber hissy fit gas station
  03/22/12
I'd do Shitlaw if I could get a damn job.
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
how could you have 2 yrs of biglaw and be unable to convince...
vigorous amber hissy fit gas station
  03/22/12
exactly
big stag film
  03/22/12
i dunno man i thought the market for ppl with like 3-5 yrs e...
vigorous amber hissy fit gas station
  03/22/12
I have a little under 2 years real exp. The rest is doc rev...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
couldn't you just lie and act like you have 3
vigorous amber hissy fit gas station
  03/22/12
For one, if you're corp then shitlaw doesn't give a fuck abo...
Purple 180 Nursing Home Wrinkle
  03/23/12
why don't you get a real job (i.e. not law)
Pearly adulterous keepsake machete
  03/22/12
Been trying brother. The job market is brutal.
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
true
Pearly adulterous keepsake machete
  03/22/12
i've been trying to get into compliance but i can't even get...
big stag film
  03/22/12
Hey, in your experience, which foreign languages are most in...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
Japanese far and away. I think spending a year teaching eng...
big stag film
  03/22/12
I'm not a native Japanese and I don't know if 1 year would g...
Smoky insecure garrison
  03/22/12
How about 2 years. teach english there, learn japanese, do ...
big stag film
  03/22/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7wfLcQBXd0
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  03/22/12
Greetings, lol tyft
trip pistol
  03/22/12
...
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  03/23/12
Greetings, You won't learn enough Japanese to do doc review...
trip pistol
  03/22/12
Just do Xoxo review, bro.
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  03/22/12
I'm wondering if it's time to bust out the Rosetta Stone and...
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  03/22/12
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  03/22/12
LOL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnWXn5hXGk
Mind-boggling kitty library
  03/22/12
lol and people called me flame when i explained my shitlaw f...
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  03/22/12
How recently was this?
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  03/22/12
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CHRONIC DOC REVIEW FUCKERS DON'T ...
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I don't get why they don't unionize
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  03/23/12
there are so many better jobs than this they can do, they ar...
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teaching English abroad sucks.
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  03/23/12
First, we are not guarranteed a job teaching English in Chin...
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  03/23/12
I believe it's pronounced Engrish
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  03/23/12
good thread
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  03/23/12
it's threads like these that make me "appreciate" ...
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  03/23/12
lol
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  03/23/12
Same, though my car is a large luxurious German made bus.
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  03/23/12
for real, i hope this thread is not flame, i may refer to i...
violet feces
  03/23/12
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  10/25/23
Doc review is life for post2008 grads breh-
electric gaping
  03/23/12
Before temps did it associates had to do it. Better the TTT ...
beta persian
  03/23/12
what had you been doing at the v30?
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  03/23/12
shit, I'm emailing this to my 167 (after 2 retakes, she's re...
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  03/23/12
167 is retarded now? I would probably still go under thos...
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  03/23/12
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  03/23/12
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Cocky Rebellious Potus
  03/23/12
Greetings, Isn't that enough for a T10? Doesn't Berkeley or...
trip pistol
  03/23/12
I guess. but, like, what's the point, what if she finishes a...
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  03/23/12
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  03/23/12
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  03/25/12
$55/hr is nice jack.
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  03/24/12
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  03/25/12
DESCRIBE one of these lulzy incidents to us.
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Tyft
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thought you were in biglaw, man?
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  03/25/12
he was an appellate clerk; i'm sure he could've stuck with b...
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  03/25/12
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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:43 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

I cannot believe this is what my life has become. I graduated in 08, was at a V30 for about 2 years before getting laid off. I was unemployed for a YEAR before I started doing doc review.

It was actually going well, I was working fairly steadily. Plus I'm asian so recently I got on a foreign language review that paid 55/hr.

But about 2 months ago I got thrown off that review for allegedly missing a couple of docs (honestly my language skills are a bit spotty).

I just got on another project this week, regular English. By far the worst experience ever. They have us in this weird conference room type place in an old ass office building. It's stifling hot in there. No room to space out, they have us packed in like sardines. We have to sign out to use the bathroom. And it's ONE toilet for like 30 of us (men and women), and it never gets cleaned. They had us leave our phones outside the office, and there is no internet access. Plus we aren't allowed to speak to each other.

I walked out today during lunch. On my drive home, I started crying uncontrollably and had to pull over. I cannot believe this is what my life has become.

I came home, briefly thought of killself, popped a Xanax football and now am chilling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272090)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: azure heady boltzmann

wtf, is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272094)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

No, and tbf, at least in my personal experience doing doc review for over a year, projects in such conditions are rare. But still, I felt so degraded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272100)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

From the description of the doc review offices, I would say this is real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272105)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: Titillating Snowy Public Bath

Your a fuckin idiot. You take shit like this and you are still married to the law. Just apply to ANY fed job that you might potentially qualify for and get a steady 70k job with 9 to 5 hours.

You fuckers need to think outside of the box.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272283)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:51 PM
Author: jet-lagged electric furnace

lol at applying for and getting a fed job if you're not a black veteran.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272734)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:03 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

yeah, this advice is up there with "just win the lotto" or my favorite "just become a tenured humanities professor"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274051)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 4:26 PM
Author: excitant ultramarine queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277866)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:29 AM
Author: transparent toilet seat

*honestly doesn't understand why someone $799,000 in debt can't just take a $70k a year fed cush job*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274248)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:35 AM
Author: Titillating Snowy Public Bath

Its call IBR. It doesnt matter how much his debt is. Also, I am saying he can take any fed gov job. Whether it is contract specialist or some other job where a law degree would help.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274296)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:40 AM
Author: transparent toilet seat

*honestly thinks that taking a longer time to pay down debt somehow makes the debt go away*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274354)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:42 AM
Author: blue laughsome useless brakes

It get forgiven, tax free after 120 consecutive payments, moron.

Most people, if they keep their AGI low, will pay back way less than half of what they owe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275162)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:20 AM
Author: French den halford

Applying for fed jobs is thinking inside the box.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274672)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: violet feces

sounds like u work in chinese ipad factory bro, sorry man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272300)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:08 AM
Author: marvelous temple

lol, when I was reading his description of the office I questioned whether or not he was in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274586)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:18 AM
Author: Metal comical cuck headpube

This crap belongs at JDU

http://www.jdunderground.com/docreview/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274657)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:20 AM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Wow an entire section devoted to doc review?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274674)



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Date: September 2nd, 2012 3:26 PM
Author: Underhanded location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#21480668)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 7:04 AM
Author: Pearl odious mad-dog skullcap

It's hard to feel sad for most lawyers because they only care about money and are extremely risk averse. They deserve to be put through the ringer because they normally feel so entitled to 100k per year just because they took out 200k in federal student loans to pay for their law school JD. They seem to think just because they borrowed a lot of money that they have to repay that SOMEONE OWES THEM so they should have a private office, a salary of 150k, respect, regular 9 to 5 hours. They aren't entrepreneurial and would never take any real business risks to produce a new necessary product that society needs. They are just as avaricious as the IBankers who call their clients "idiots" and "muppets" then charge them $500 per hour for their services. They don't like being treated as expendable cogs in a machine but they show very little evidence that they would act differently if the positions were switched.

It's just that crazy sense of ENTITLEMENT to a great job with great hours at a great salary because they were one of the lemmings who ran towards law school and paid lots of money to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275129)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:22 PM
Author: Geriatric henna kitty cat

You feel sorry for the whole fucking profession. I'm sure most law school grads would be satisfied with 70K with room to advance and develop skills. This is a temp job with no benefits and no professional development and it's actually considered a GOOD outcome by the "law clerks" working for $12/hr or free or the unemployed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279714)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 7:43 AM
Author: arousing new version

180 pwnage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526094)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 9:16 AM
Author: salmon locus azn

You seem like a well-adjusted bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526168)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 7:13 AM
Author: Pearl odious mad-dog skullcap

This entire sob story is about the sad doc reviewer. There is never a sense of the big picture: does this hurt hte legal profession? does this help the legal profession? does this hurt or help clients? does it hurt or help justice?

Lawyers only care about getting theirs, and they turn the biggest tragedies into nothings as long as they made out okay. Why should anyone pity an asshole who just cares about himself at the end of the day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275132)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: charismatic sapphire range police squad

the whole crying thing is really not going to help society's view of asian males

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272097)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 7:44 AM
Author: arousing new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526095)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Pearly adulterous keepsake machete

so how did that decision to go to law school work out for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272099)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

: (

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272101)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: Pearl odious mad-dog skullcap

The supply of lawyers was so large because there are so many risk averse enitled assholes who want to make 200k annually without taking any risks or doing anything unpleasant or working long hours. They deserve to be treated like shit just to see how many of them actually care about lawyering at all as opposed to the 200k salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275130)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: big stag film

hey dude i am in the same boat. Yeah some projects are shit but not all. Just forget that project and go to one with better working conditions. With 2 yrs biglaw you can get a shitlaw job, otherwise aim for staff attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272117)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Brother, I wish that was true. I've had NO luck with Shitlaw over the last 2 years, same thing with staff attorney (this would be ideal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:55 PM
Author: big stag film

If that's the case, the only way for you to do law stuff is if you take advantage of your foreign language and go abroad. IF you speak mandarin you should find a place in HK/China.

Otherwise going back to school in something might be the only way to wash this shit away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272197)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:56 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Been taking online accounting courses, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272205)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:42 AM
Author: mahogany plaza really tough guy

at the secondary market I'm in, if you sent in a resume w/ a V30 and a T25 school, they'd hire you for at least 100K. Gotta make up connections I guess, but fuck man, how hard is it to say your aunt lives there and you went to elementary school and jr high there and always felt like it was home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274368)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: Cocky Rebellious Potus

what's the pay like? what happens if you talk to your coworkers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272143)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:53 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

$33/hr. Not sure, nobody talks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272173)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:05 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

they hit you with a bullwhip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274066)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

LOL JUST LOL AT NYC BIGLAW

You should move to TX everyone's getting jobs now even bottom of class at TTTs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272146)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: Sickened offensive crackhouse nibblets

Fuck that bro. Talk to your agency. They work for you. Tell them that shit's unacceptable and if they balk, you walk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272153)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:53 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Bro, the agencies don't give a fuck. We are just Soylent Green to them. I walk, they just get another warm body.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272169)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:54 PM
Author: Sickened offensive crackhouse nibblets

That's WHY you walk bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272178)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:33 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274277)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:54 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Nearly all of them, from what I hear from my old NYC friends who are still grinding it out in the gulags. These work conditions began circa 2007 when a large temp mill called "Discover Ready" came to downtown NYC. I interviewed there and couldn't f'ing believe the place. They rented a whole floor of a crumbling old building on Rector Street and had it set up "fishbowl" style. On the coding floor there were about 15 to 20 glass "boxes" or cubicles that held a dozen coders each, and you had to use a swipe-card to leave your box for bathroom breaks and such. That way, they knew exactly how many minutes you were not at your workstation, kinda like a Supermax prison. They also were the first with the "cell phone cubby-check" policy. Each cell phone cubby had a playing card inside it, and you took the card from an "empty" cubby and put your phone in there, then noted on the sheet which card you had (i.e, 10 of clubs, etc) so you wouldn't forget what cubby was yours. The reason (or "excuse, cough cough" for this was that the client didn't want anyone with a cell phone camera to take pictures of sensitive docs, etc. I think the real reason is that they didn't want photos of the workspeace itself leaking out. The coders I saw while on "tour" of this place were some really strange folks: they had that "glazed" look in their eyes as if Valium was in the water fountain. The whole scene gave me the creeps, so I turned down the gig and just waited for another spot to open up in the SullCrom basement. Better to stick with the devil you know, you know?

On the coding floor itself at Discover Ready, there were "straw bosses" at the "intersection" of every 4 cubicles (these straw-boss desks were exposed) to keep an eye on everyone. All the monitors were turned so that the straw boss could see everyone's screen at all times. They also had a really "loud" screensaver with like flashing orange lights so it would become apparent if anyone let their machine go to sleep. There were also signs everywhere that said "Quiet Please" and things like that. Very much "1984" / George Orwell type stuff.

There are a few decent agencies left (Lexolution is one) who have pretty chill work spaces and no "carding" in and out, but they have very few gigs anymore and most are very short-term.

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Once you start doing doc review, no one (not even small firms) will take you seriously as a job candidate. It's the kiss of death for your resume.

Worse yet, if you leave the law and start applying to other businesses/coprs for non-legal jobs, everyone asks "why were you never made permanent anywhere" and you're viewed as sort of a "bad penny" who can't hold down a job. Outsiders don't understand that law firms NEVER make doc reviewers into permanent associates, ever.

So in that sense your "career" is basically over before it ever begins. To be honest, I didn't really mind jumping from gig to gig for awhile, back when the $$$ was decent and you got to work with the same friends on different gigs all the time.

But after awhile you start to feel life passing you by, as you stare into a screen hour after endless hour reading 87 page "Tri-Lateral Broker-Dealer Sub Agreement Addendums" and using the mouse to redact (black out) the law firm's name from all 237 times it appears before clicking the "Produce Document" tab. Eating crappy Chinese take out food while the guy six inches to your right bangs his elbow into yours for the 400th time while digging a booger out of his nose and wiping it on a wrinkled copy of yesterday's NY Post.

Weird walking out to the street at 11 pm, the city boils loud, brilliant and alive. It almost overwhelms the senses after having stared into a computer monitor for the past 15 hours. Your eyes need time to adjust: for the first few minutes the headlights and car horns seem like hallucinations from an acid trip. Those were strange days, indeed.

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Forget the "same class and year" stuff- there are doc reviewers in their 40s and 50s making $25 an hour in these dungeons. Lawyers with experience you wouldn't believe: solos who once ran their own lucrative practices, former partners at small firms that split up, ex DA and public defenders, etc. The idea that everyone on doc review is a 2.0 GPA type from a Cooley/NYLS type TTT school is absurd, and I hope none of you have to learn this the hard way.

For example, a good buddy of mine from a project once was a partner in a small personal injury firm. Back when these cases were easier to settle, he made as much as 200 K a year. But the carriers started cracking down and making every case into a dogfight, revenue slowly dried up, and eventually they had to close up shop. He tried getting into insurance defense, but those jobs pay so poorly (45 K a year is not unusual, even for people with experience) that he had nowhere else to turn but the doc review dungeons.

Another gal I know was a NJ assistant DA who was let go in the budget cuts. She tried for months to get a job in private practice criminal defense, but sadly those jobs pay even worse than doc review (she was offered 25 K plus a 50/50 split of cases she brought in) by one DWI defense mill, and that was her only offer. Very few shitlawyers can make a living in crim. defense since 95%+ of all criminals just get the public defender.

I had to stop doing doc review largely because seeing (and working in) such an utter & complete waste of human capital gets depressing to the point of suicide after a few years. Understand that in document review you are treated and reminded every working minute that you're a worthless, expendable loser due no courtesy, respect, or treated with any professionalism whatsoever. The firms and agencies will lie about hours, lie about pay rates, lie about project length, and provide you with working conditions so abysmal you'll dread getting up in the morning.

Understand that many doc review jobs get cancelled before they even happen: Skadden was/is notorious for this. They used to staff thru an agency called Clutch Group, and the pay was often above market.

But 9 of 10 times the projects would never happen. I suppose Skadden wanted to have the coders lined up while settlement talks were ongoing so they could "call the bluff" of their adversary and start discovery rolling along quickly if need be.

Back in 2007 I was strung along for 2 weeks waiting on a gig to start: first it was Monday, then Wednesday, then Thursday, then the following Monday, then BAM: the case settled= no project period. So all that time wasted sending resumes, filling out conflict forms, and worst of all turning down other projects in the interim: all for naught. Do you know what it's like to have rent/student loans due and turn down 2 other projects while waiting for Skadden, then find out the rug was pulled out from under you? Then you have to start scouring craigslist all over again and calling all the other agencies begging them to put you on the fist gig that comes in.

Also after you do doc review awhile you start getting "conflicted out" of projects. I conflicted out of nearly every pharma project in 2008-9 because I worked on the huge Seroquel case. So you're stuck either lying to get on the gig, or turning it down and being broke. Some choice, huh?

Here's a terrible story re: that Seroquel case: there were over 300 temps working 90 hour weeks on that gig for the first 3 months of 2008. Once the production date passed, the partner walked into the rooms on a Friday afternoon and said "nothing to worry about, we're now going to start reviewing docs for the state court claims. See you all on Monday morning- go home and have a great weekend. WE're getting out early today so the new docs can be loaded."

So everyone left, and most left their stuff (books, coffee mugs, MP3 players, etc) at their workstations, since we were expressly told to be back at work Monday.

Two hours later the calls starting coming from the agency. "Sorry, but there's been a new development in the case and we're sorry to inform you you've been rolled off this project." They kept only 60 people out of 300.

I was one of those kept aboard. When I came in that Monday, almost all the workstations were getting packed up/dismantled by the tech guys, and the room was completely rearranged.

Here's the worst part: all of the personal items that the fired people had left behind were tossed into one huge pile in front of the downstairs security desk. It looked like those scenes in a prison movie where they "toss the cells." Just a huge heap of coats, sweatshirts, Ipods, coffee mugs, family photos, books/magazines, personal papers, cigarettes etc. It was liked the stuff was dumped from a dump truck: the pile was over 5 feet high. Most people had a good amount of stuff there since we'd been working 15+ hours a day for three months straight, including the weekends.

That day, most of my (former) co-workers trickled back in to claw thru this pile of shit and try to find the stuff they left behind. It was one of the saddest sites I've ever seen. As people plowed thru the stuff, everything was getting all stepped on and dirty. A lot of people wanted to come upstairs and say goodbye to friends etc, but security wouldn't let anyone past the front desk.

The reason the firms do it this way (i.e, lying to your face) is because they are paying the agencies a cut to do this dirty work for them. They're also afraid of people downloading viruses and such to the computers on the way out, and also of people begging them to be kept on the project, etc. It's a messy affair, so they just lie and let others do the dirty work for them.

These are the type of people you guys apparently aspire to work for. People who routinely treat others like expendable pieces of subhuman garbage, and furthermore do so on purpose. People who enjoy treating others like garbage. People who've let the thirst for money & ego override every aspect of life, to the point of essentially becoming a sociopath. People who are such chickenshit cowards that they can't even face people man to man, but have to hide behind lowlife staffing agencies to carry out their miserable directives.

I envy you guys because it's not too late for you. You can still back out and never have to experience this soul-crushing, overrated gutter of an industry. You can actually do something pleasant and productive with your lives, rather than squander your precious youth learning "Rule Against Perpetuities" puzzles and memorizing the "nuances" of UCC 2-207 and the other pointless makework that constitute the bulk of this rotten industry.

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http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=157855

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272183)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: fuchsia curious hall

WHAT

THE

FUCK



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272276)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: violet feces

holy fuck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272321)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: glittery khaki parlor

wholly shit, that reads like an excerpt from a dystopian novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272345)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:14 PM
Author: Cocky Rebellious Potus

shiet, wasted talent right here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272385)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:22 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Seriously. Dude should have been a writer. Also, I'm pretty sure skaddenfarts and this guy are the same person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272459)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:22 PM
Author: Dashing costumed rehab

this is beautiful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272462)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 7:46 AM
Author: arousing new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526096)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: Pearly adulterous keepsake machete

jesus christ....this is REALLY fucking sad. though I did laugh at:

"But after awhile you start to feel life passing you by, as you stare into a screen hour after endless hour reading 87 page "Tri-Lateral Broker-Dealer Sub Agreement Addendums"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272477)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:27 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

This poast about his co-worker who called himself Gandhi had me LOLing:

Another funny thing about doc review is that you can get "promoted" on long term (like 3 or 4 month projects) to QC (quality control) or "second level review," which means you double-check the work of the regular coders on some sort of random audit basis. That way you can't just "green light" the shitty or non-existent coding of your friends (you see, there used to be projects in the more primitive days of software where you could "batch code"- this is where you hold down CTRL and just mark a whole batch of docs "non-responsive" w/out even opening or reading them). It was great b/c you could do like 100 docs in 10 seconds and then surf the Internet or bullshit for the other 59 minutes of the hour. But the firms wised up to this and can now see how much time you spent on each doc, etc and get all other kinds of stool pidgeon software to abuse and monitor the temps.

Usually you get this QC "promotion" by being a hot chick or; alternatively, not constantly falling asleep and/or drooling on your keyboard. It helps not to cause all kinds of problems either like complaining the room is too hot or chewing up all the pens, etc. Sometimes it's just plain dumb luck- they spin the "Wheel O' Coders" and your number pops up.

You don't get any extra $$$ to be a QC coder, but you often will get to hang on a few extra days after the gig wraps up to finish any stray docs and double-check docs that might actually be responsive (though almost none are- would you trust TTT coders with anything potentially important? enough said).

So I was on this huge doc review for a pharma tort case and somehow got promoted to QC. One day the staff attorney tells me to go help this old bald Indian dude who called himself "Gahdhi" (like prison, most people in doc review have "street names" while on project, in case you haven't noticed). He was a really nice guy and was saving money so he could retire in India. His wife was already over there scouting out houses, etc. His real name was impossible to pronounce unless you have a certain kind of tongue or something, according to him.

Bigger problem is, apparently Gandhi had zero experience using computers, which isn't exactly great news when your job involves using one 16 hours a day. According to the staff attorney, all of the PDF docs that Gandhi was doing redactions on were seriously screwed up, with like half the page blacked out. Rather than "redactions," Gahndi's docs looked like random grafitti or modern art or whatever. Furthermore, his redactions were over parts of the page that were blank to begin with, so something was seriously wrong.

So I go to his workstation to see what's going on and have him pull up a PDF doc. He does and the doc is displayed on the screen sideways. I tell him to rotate the doc and Gandi grabs hold of the whole computer monitor (this was pre-flat screen) and starts trying to turn the entire rig sideways. It was mounted on one of those swivel, ball-joint type bases (remember those?). Before I could tell him that he didn't need to move the monitor upside down and shit, somehow the wires from his monitor unplugged the computer of the chick sitting next to him (as I said, everyone sits elbow to elbow and there are wires all over the place, and like 500 things plugged into one outlet, etc).

So the screen of the chick next to home goes dark, and she starts going utterly batshit crazy and says "This guy is a terrorist, I can't fucking stand him- he does this like 50 times a day! " She was livid and said 'he shouldn't fucking be here if he can't use a computer" and things of that nature. I guess it never occured to her to investigate why Gahndi turned his monitor extremely sideways like 200 times a day, but coders aren't always the most helpful or cordial people. This chick in particular had a reputation for being really aggressive, and for some reason she had like a hundred Bic lighters all over her work table and used to chew on them, etc. They were all gnawed down like those toys you give a gerbil or whatever.

Anyway, Gahndi got really offended that she called him a "terrorist" (this was back when the Iraq war was still big news and such). He was threatening to report her to the staff attorney for racial slurs, etc, and the whole situation was becoming a huge scene. I crawled under the table to try and get the wires plugged back in while the two of them were having at it. It got out of hand pretty quickly and Gandhi starts marching up and knocking on the staff attorneys door.

I got the computers back up and running and like 2 minutes later the staff attorney comes out and calls the chick into the office to get her side of the story. Then like 2 minutes later the aggressive chick storms out, grabs all her lighters and shit off the table, says "Fuck you" to me, and rolls off the project. These randomly aggressive incidents are actually pretty common on doc review, so it wasn't really as big a deal as it would be at a normal job. In fact, my definition of "normal" is now so screwed up I could probably never return to any type of legitimate office environment.

Another funny guy on this project we used to call 'Sloshburg" because he showed up for work reeking of booze every day. One time he came back from lunch all lit up and started turning the lights on and off and like "breathing on people" and such. We're talking heavy Stage IV alcoholism here. He was always bragging about this million-dollar injury case he was "this close" to settling, and how as soon as it came through he was leaving doc review for good. It wasn't unusual. Many coders suffer from what I call "Willy Lohman" syndrome- their grip on reality and their place in the economic pecking order is just totally lost on them. There isn't a coder alive without a stack of cheesy Vista-Print business cards with all sorts of official titles and such like "Law Office of Thomas Montgomery Coder, Attorney and Counsellor at Law, Master of Chancery, King's Bench, Member of the Bar, Juris Doctor, Esquire." It's like some kind of closet "prestige injection" for them, apparently. I think one guy even has his LSAT score on his card, but it was probably like a 149 or whatever.

These cards are of course for their "side practices," which involve getting their brothers/moms/realtives etc. out of speeding tickets and other occasional rinky-dink stuff. What's really funny is that almost all of them use the same Regus mail-drop company in NYC as their "office address," and when they swap cards they'll say things like "oh, our practices are in the same building" and act all important for a few minutes. It gets depressing after awhile seeing these fools carry on this pathetic charade on project after project. The only time I ever had business cards was when I was an associate at the personal injury shop, and they were those cheesy ones from Staples that come on perforated cardstock sheets to print yourself. About a week after I started working there the secretary printed them up and left a stack on my desk. I'd carry the whole sheets in my little briefcase and if someone wanted a card I just ripped one off the sheet, like a dispenser. It was kind of handy, really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272503)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:32 PM
Author: Dashing costumed rehab

this is amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272535)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: Maniacal provocative mexican

true 180 material

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272743)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 6:33 AM
Author: Metal comical cuck headpube

jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275118)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:00 AM
Author: Purple 180 Nursing Home Wrinkle

I legit loled several times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275363)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:14 AM
Author: talented frozen puppy brunch

(like prison, most people in doc review have "street names" while on project, in case you haven't noticed).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275433)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:34 AM
Author: Purple 180 Nursing Home Wrinkle

The comparisons to prison are fantastic. Seriously, this guy should write a book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275506)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 7:01 AM
Author: Tan sexy forum

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526063)



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Date: July 16th, 2016 3:34 AM
Author: Gay ceo

'heres Italics Joe'

*joe leers at u with 1 eye, flicking switchblade*

'...he can spot an italicized comma on size 12 documents from 15 feet away.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#30942803)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:40 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Dood's personal history:

I graduated in 2004 from an NYC Tier One school with a 3.1 GPA. Did an intership both summers, but the gov't agency I interned with did not have any openings when I graduated. I sent out tons of resumes, but when $$$ ran low I registered with the temp agencies and got into Paul Weiss. Then I did a couple SullivanCromwell gigs and left temping for a personal injury firm where I worked as an associate for 45 K and no health benefits. That firm was so miserable I seriously thought about suicide and basically started drinking and doing drugs to cope with stress and depression. I had to keep deferring loans and really couldn't survive on the low salary. I was in the personal injury firm for about one year. Then the partner at the PI firm got disbarred and the other PI firms wouldn't interview me because of having a "stain" like that place on my resume. So my only substantive experience was basically worthless because it came from a place where a guy was getting disbarred for all types of sleazy shit, etc. I didn't really like that type of work anyway- it's a nightmare dealing with injured people and if you can't bring in cases you're pretty much topping out at 50-55 K for a salary.

So I went back into temping for another 3 years or so, and also waited tables and did other non-legal jobs between projects. Doc review wasn't too bad in terms of $$$, but you have to accept being treated like complete and utter garbage all the time. You are in no way a "professional" or accorded any respect or dignity on these gigs. They lie about the project length, lie about the hours, and terminate people with no warning by calling you at 11 pm to say the gig is over. On many projects you can't have your cell phone with you- you have to check it in with the front desk before going to your worskstation, other crappy childish rules like that.

Sometimes I really do wonder how things turned out so bad. Basically my "career" has been nothing but dead-end temp jobs and working for a scumbag firm. At this point I'm pretty much a ruined shell of a person, and plan on moving abroad with my fiancee so we can escape my massive student loan debt and start over elsewhere. She is a former ballet dancer and has an offer to dance with a company in Turkey, so I might take an English teaching job when we get there.

It's too bad student loans can't be discharged in BK. I'd gladly resign from both bars I'm admitted to for the chance at a clean financial start. I've accepted that my legal "career" so to speak is beyond dead, and dead-end temping is the only legal job I'll ever have any chance of getting. With the debt, it's simply impossible for me to "start over" in this country and change careers. Why struggle to pay for another 25 years for an education I'm not even able to use? My hunch is also that things are going to get far, far worse in the USA over the next few years, so it's probably an ideal time to run for the exit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272622)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: Dashing costumed rehab

this guy is a hero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272759)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:56 PM
Author: Irradiated Orange Whorehouse Dingle Berry

You'd be really surprised (stunned really) if you spent a few years on the NYC doc review "circuit." There are people from all kinds of good schools: NYU, Emory, Fordham, Columbia, Penn, etc. But mostly it's Brooklyn/St Johns/Cardozo/Seton Hall/Rutgers kids- I'd say about 70% are from those schools.

Kids from top, top schools usually make lousy coders. For example, I sat next to a guy on an O'Melveny project who I named "Dr. Smell-Good." He wore those Kenneth Cole dress boots that were popular about 8 years ago, but didn't wear socks with them. He'd take them off throughout the day and his feet smelled horrible. He was an NYU grad and got canned from a big firm in the downturn. He was literally boiling with rage at the doc review "lifestyle"- he didn't care for being berated all day and talked to like a 5 year old (which is how doc review just "is." For example, like 20 times a day there are "annoucements" and such and everyone has to move their chairs in a circle and "listen up." It's kinda like prison, but in a funny way. Once you've been on a few gigs you get used to the game and don't really notice anymore how downright sad and degrading this shit is.

Poor ole Dr. Smellgood wouldn't have any part of it. When he told me he went to NYU and I screamed out "you went to NYU are are working HERE? With us losers?" he said "don't say it so loud" and "i'm not a loser, I used to make six digits." I tried to help him get on the beam, but this guy was grinding his molars down to nubs he was so angry at all the typical BS, like having to sign out to use the bathroom and not having soda at your desk, etc. Also on Fridays the temp agency usually brings in free pizza, but one coder has to act as "pizza monitor" because things usually get out of hand with the free grub and all. There are rules like only one slice at a time and no "seconds" until everyone has had a slice. Also no "hoarding" slices for your friends who are out smoking or asleep at their desks, etc. Dr. Smellgood would bitch and moan that he felt it was like kindergarten, etc etc.

I got kinda scared he was gonna bring an AK-47 to work and take us all out in a rage. Luckily that case settled one day at like 10 am and we all got sent home- they even paid us until 12 noon, which is rare.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272762)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:06 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

"you went to NYU are are working HERE? With us losers?"

*kills self*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272842)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: Domesticated concupiscible station cuckold

Holy shit! The pizza thing is spot on. Glad my doc review days are over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20276044)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Out of curiosity, what are you doing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20276074)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 12:47 PM
Author: violet feces

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20276515)



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Date: November 27th, 2015 4:19 PM
Author: Soul-stirring giraffe

There are people from all kinds of good schools: NYU, Emory, Fordham, Columbia, Penn, etc.

LOLOLOLOLOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29262332)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:01 AM
Author: Frum Church Building

do you think being an accountant and crunching the same numbers daily to earn 50k is any more fulfilling than reading docs? welcome to the real world neo.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274020)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:19 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

TBF, doc review, based on everything I've heard sounds fucking awful.

At least accountants are generally fairly autonomous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274179)



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Date: November 28th, 2013 8:36 AM
Author: vibrant bat-shit-crazy mental disorder legend

accounting is boring and repetitive but it is nothing like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#24526144)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:19 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

Reading that entire thread. That guy is awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274182)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:11 AM
Author: White flatulent step-uncle's house gunner

To me, this whole thing was one giant advertisement for why NYC is the worst place on earth. Shit like this would never go down in Chicago. People might work you hard and fire you but they won't dump your personal stuff in front of a doorman, good lord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275421)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 12:45 PM
Author: Shivering deer antler voyeur

cr

I don't understand how anyone can put up with NYC without at least modest independent wealth. 2 million minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20276503)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 7:21 PM
Author: Dashing costumed rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279240)



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Date: May 21st, 2014 2:33 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle soggy box office circlehead

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#25605001)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 7:39 PM
Author: tantric poppy laser beams sweet tailpipe

terrifying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29253106)



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Date: September 7th, 2020 11:06 PM
Author: Spruce twisted orchestra pit ratface

still a GOAT poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#40885220)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:58 PM
Author: walnut base quadroon

whoa whoa whoa, let's keep this shit on JDU

hell, let's keep THOSE PEOPLE on JDU

the despair here has its own special tang, we don't want to fuck that up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272227)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 9:59 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

I literally lost all hoap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272232)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: big stag film

I made 130k one year doing foreign language document review. Life isn't bad man. Just enjoy it and save some money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272247)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Holy fuck. What language?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272256)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: big stag film

No Japanese. but i got lucky and had a long term project with OT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272263)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Is that project over? Have you been able to land more foreign language stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272286)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: big stag film

Foreign language work for me has been spotty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272295)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Yea, I am not Japanese either, so I don't know how in-demand my language is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272323)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

Yeah, there was some azn language doc review in Denver IIRC paying $70+/hr a year or so back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272261)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: big stag film

brother, if you knew japanese you could do 85/hr and work remotely. And there's be people banging on your door every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

Brother, I put my resume up on Monster.com while unemployed and I got called about Japanese and Korean. But I had been meeting with successful legal folks (GCs, partners, e.g.) on and off for a few months for lunch, and they all echoed that doc review was a kiss of death on your resume and you shouldn't even touch it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272298)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: big stag film

Yes, but a mans gotta eat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272311)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

Fortunately, I'm married to a surgeon.

Side note: there are some jx where USAO offices take Special AUSA __volunteers__ with little experience. If you are fortunate enough to be in a place like that, you should take that. "Special AUSA" looks baller. Just wait tables in the evening until you find real work.

While I was unemployed, I managed to find small bidnisses who needed Ks, etc. drawn up for them. That's what I did until I got a real job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272320)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:16 AM
Author: flesh casino personal credit line

You know you don't have to put that shit on your resume right? Why should 3 months of doc review be a line on your resume?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274153)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:20 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

this

I omit and lie about all sorts of shit on my resume. NBD. Oh Gee, our Boomer Overlords might find out? So fucking what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274186)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:40 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

yes, but then you're working 8+ hour days when you could be LOOKING FOR A REAL JOB during that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277148)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: vigorous amber hissy fit gas station

why would you do doc review? shitlaw is better than that. i'd rather make a bit less and have a full time job/benefits than hopping around some temp bullshit doing monkey work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272272)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

I'd do Shitlaw if I could get a damn job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272291)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: vigorous amber hissy fit gas station

how could you have 2 yrs of biglaw and be unable to convince some shit firm to take you on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272307)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: big stag film

exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272322)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: vigorous amber hissy fit gas station

i dunno man i thought the market for ppl with like 3-5 yrs exp was pretty good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272359)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

I have a little under 2 years real exp. The rest is doc review.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272371)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: vigorous amber hissy fit gas station

couldn't you just lie and act like you have 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272376)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:07 AM
Author: Purple 180 Nursing Home Wrinkle

For one, if you're corp then shitlaw doesn't give a fuck about you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275392)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Pearly adulterous keepsake machete

why don't you get a real job (i.e. not law)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272348)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Been trying brother. The job market is brutal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272351)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: Pearly adulterous keepsake machete

true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272356)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:14 PM
Author: big stag film

i've been trying to get into compliance but i can't even get a single interview there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272382)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

Hey, in your experience, which foreign languages are most in demand for doc review (Japanese is 1 obviously)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272394)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: big stag film

Japanese far and away. I think spending a year teaching english in japan and learning the language would probably be a better investment than any accounting course.

German and Mandarin seem pretty solid too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272409)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Smoky insecure garrison

I'm not a native Japanese and I don't know if 1 year would get me good enough, esp at reading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272432)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: big stag film

How about 2 years. teach english there, learn japanese, do online accounting course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272444)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7wfLcQBXd0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272740)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:11 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

lol tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272901)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: excitant ultramarine queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279760)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:23 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

You won't learn enough Japanese to do doc review in one year over there, esp not when 1/2 your waking hours, at minimum, will be spent speaking English

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272472)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:25 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Hairy Legs Degenerate

Just do Xoxo review, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272481)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:33 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

I'm wondering if it's time to bust out the Rosetta Stone and prepare my anus for such job prospects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272546)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:34 PM
Author: Irradiated Orange Whorehouse Dingle Berry

PWNED!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272556)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

LOL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnWXn5hXGk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272715)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:00 PM
Author: jet-lagged electric furnace

lol and people called me flame when i explained my shitlaw firm got 500 resumes for one job opening, a bunch from T14s and we hired some CLS 07 guy for $65k and shitty health insurance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272789)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:11 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

How recently was this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20272900)



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Date: March 22nd, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20273203)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:02 AM
Author: flesh casino personal credit line

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CHRONIC DOC REVIEW FUCKERS DON'T JUST MOVE TO A SMALLER TOWN AND DO A GENERAL PRACTICE. ARE YOU REALLY THIS FUCKING BETA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274035)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:05 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

I don't get why they don't unionize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274069)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:19 AM
Author: flesh casino personal credit line

there are so many better jobs than this they can do, they are just afraid to leave NYC or hometown.

Go fucking teach English in China/SE Asia. You will be a God there with your J.D. credentials. You can work your way into SOMETHING, especially if you're a white. Doc review in NYC for 2 years straight is a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274184)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:20 AM
Author: Cerebral Fear-inspiring Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

teaching English abroad sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274191)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:26 AM
Author: Aromatic roommate site

First, we are not guarranteed a job teaching English in China. They often prefer teaching experience over JD credentials. JD credentials mean nothing to them. Second, teaching English in China means you will not be making even minimum loan payments. With doc review, you can generally make minimum payments while living like shit. Financially, doc review is clearly the preferable option.

I don't think people realize how awful the job market is. Especially in law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275479)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: excitant ultramarine queen of the night

I believe it's pronounced Engrish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279766)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:32 AM
Author: violet feces

good thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274271)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:34 AM
Author: transparent toilet seat

it's threads like these that make me "appreciate" all those all nighters at the office. sheesh. i hate my firm but at least im a real lawyer.

my car is also extremely fast and very expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274292)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:42 AM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274366)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:44 AM
Author: beta persian

Same, though my car is a large luxurious German made bus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274383)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:46 AM
Author: violet feces

for real, i hope this thread is not flame, i may refer to it from time to time when i feel like killing someone at the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274410)



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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:40 AM
Author: bat shit crazy menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#46980186)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:43 AM
Author: electric gaping

Doc review is life for post2008 grads breh-

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274379)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:44 AM
Author: beta persian

Before temps did it associates had to do it. Better the TTT grads than the T14 grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274394)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 1:44 AM
Author: Honey-headed Confused Preventive Strike

what had you been doing at the v30?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274393)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:22 AM
Author: flickering sienna clown dog poop

shit, I'm emailing this to my 167 (after 2 retakes, she's retarded)/3.92 sister who's considering law school. maybe this will talk her out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274682)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:57 AM
Author: Irradiated Orange Whorehouse Dingle Berry

167 is retarded now?

I would probably still go under those circumstances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274858)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:19 AM
Author: Purple 180 Nursing Home Wrinkle

Then you're retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275457)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 3:04 AM
Author: Cocky Rebellious Potus

if u can't talk her out of it, make sure she doesn't take on insane amounts of debt. that way, she's only risking 3 yrs of her life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20274878)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:45 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

Isn't that enough for a T10? Doesn't Berkeley or NWern like high GPA splitters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277183)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 4:28 PM
Author: flickering sienna clown dog poop

I guess. but, like, what's the point, what if she finishes at median

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277878)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:33 PM
Author: excitant ultramarine queen of the night

But we know LSAT is no indicator of law school placement. I was low 160's (forgot to fill in 5 bubbles (fml)), and I finished top 5% Tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279775)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 4:19 AM
Author: flickering sienna clown dog poop

oh we know this, do we.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20291613)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:48 AM
Author: Greedy senate coffee pot

$55/hr is nice jack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275164)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 11:04 AM
Author: lavender trump supporter area
Subject: Scotty 's old blog

some of the excerpts above are taken straight from Scott's old blog (Big Debt, Small Law) which is archived at

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50830877/Big-Debt-Small-Law-blog

Good stuff, dude. Good stuff.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275600)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:14 AM
Author: wonderful mad cow disease hominid

YOU KNOW WE DRINK DAT ROZAY TILL WE BLACK OUT

WAKE UP DRINK SOME MORE DEN PASS BACK OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275432)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:57 PM
Author: exciting embarrassed to the bone ticket booth

KOR is some next level shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279879)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: startling brindle stead

reminds me of that classic post from the (defunct) blog, Big Debt, Small Law.

At Paul Weiss, for example, they crammed 120 people into a basement room that NYC fire code rated for 80. This was in 2005. Like steerage passengers on the Titanic, we labored in the bowels of the building, right alongside the boilers and HVAC equipment. Lacking air conditioning and adequate ventilation, many came down with colds that went untreated due to the lack of health insurance. A cockroach problem soon erupted due to the crumbs and food garbage strewn about the cellar floor, which was treated with multiple Raid roach fogger bombs. The morning after the exterminators finished, dead roaches littered our keyboards and even crawled, stunted but still living, from the floppy drives and servers!

We were paid $21 an hour, straight time, and required to work from 9 am to 11 pm seven days a week. Forbidden to use the firm’s lavish upstairs restrooms, they had all 120 of us split a pair of airplane sized-bathrooms that were on the Concourse level under the Rock Center, open to the public and a favorite bathing spot for the homeless. One affable homeless chap named “Bones” would use the lone toilet in there as a foot bidet, rinsing his diabetic ulcer in the excrement-caked shitpot and yelling “I’m in here motherfucker!”every time one of us coders needed to relieve himself. Most of us just went next door and used the Heartland Brewery’s bathroom (did I mention that restroom breaks of over six minutes had to be deducted from one’s timesheet? As a coder, bowel movements can quickly cut into the bottom line).

The next stop on my vagabond coding career was Sullivan & Cromwell, that whitest of the white shoe firms. This dump has three levels of sunless, underground bunkers where the temp attorneys and their documents are warehoused, far away from the skyline corner offices where the serious shitpaper gets pushed. It’s like those alternative communities of urban legend that one reads about online: the subway’s “mole people” and such.

You are instructed by your temp agency pimp to meet in the lobby of 125 Broad Street at 9 am sharp, where you assemble as a group to be marched upstairs and “processed” like that busload of inmates from The Shawshank Redemption. Told to dress in a “suit and tie” for the first day, they soon march you downstairs to the dungeon where the “coders for life” toil in pajamas and sweatpants, chanting “new fish, fresh fish, we got new fish today” at the suit – clad newbies who are starting the first day of the rest of their lives. Many start openly weeping into their spiffy leather Perry Ellis portfolios, some even freshly monogrammed as recent law school graduation gifts. Many start bleating mindlessly for the mothers, returning to an infantile state as the overwhelming sadness and abject disappointment slowly seeps in. As I said, welcome ye to the first day of the rest of your life!

Due to their colossal ineptitude, complete lack of common sense, and probably outright billing fraud, squads of coders arrive for the mandatory 14 hour “workdays” only to be kept idly waiting for hour upon endless hour as documents are loaded, clarifications are sought, software is configured, the moon rises in Taurus and Capricorn descends into autumn, etc. It’s rare to squeeze more than 45 minutes of actual coding time into a 14 hour day. Not knowing the Sullivan drill, many newbie coders turn down Sullivan gigs because the long mandatory hours rightly terrify them.

But us veterans know the old “Clownshop” (as the temps call it) all too well. The waiting coders nap, play cards, vandalize the workstations and so on while waiting for documents and instructions that rarely arrive. Some even operate wire fraud scams and lotteries on the S&C computers, thus “double dipping” and making real bank. A cool Nigerian coder even once used the break-room hot plate to cook us all an authentic African ox-tail stew, which ended with a dessert course provided by raiding the partner’s pantry freezer and ripping off a case of ice-cream sandwiches that were meant for some lame Merrill Lynch client meeting or whatever.

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/08/mamas-dont-let-your-babies-grow-up-to-be-contract-attorneys/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275541)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:51 PM
Author: trip pistol

Greetings,

lol tyft

This is the exact behavior that some of my partner friends have said to my face prevents them from hiring doc reviewers for associate positions

While unemployed, I had lunch with an IP partner at one of the biggest firms here. I asked about doc review -> associate possibility. The partner told me basically they would rather hire someone like who had been doing doc review for them rather than someone out of nowhere; indeed, this apparently used to be done. HOWEVER (and this was a big however), the doc reviewers all were total fuckups who would scuff up the walls, get pencils stuck in the ceiling etc., so they had decided to automatically consider all doc reviewers fuckups not worth of hiring or even talking to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277224)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 8:44 PM
Author: Appetizing Dark Corner

lol @ the ridiculous cycle of causation here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20279828)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:57 PM
Author: Deranged motley indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277259)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:58 PM
Author: mint galvanic striped hyena psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277263)



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Date: July 18th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: razzle autistic kitchen filthpig

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#30961346)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 10:45 AM
Author: startling brindle stead

http://thumbs.imagekind.com/member/b22d30f8-94d4-4290-bc32-948837f8f301/uploadedartwork/650X650/a07f2d6b-221e-41e5-af26-866fad5d61fb.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20275550)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 4:12 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

Fuuuuuuuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277757)



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Date: March 23rd, 2012 2:55 PM
Author: violet feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20277248)



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Date: March 24th, 2012 6:54 PM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

If you're in NYC, you should just join my doc-review team. Depending on the case, you can usually work from home.

I always enjoy showing up to the doc-review site, though, because not a day goes by without a legit LOL incident.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20287854)



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Date: March 24th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: big stag film

how can i join your team

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20289264)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 4:18 AM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20291609)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 4:45 AM
Author: Turquoise Thriller State Water Buffalo

bet it's hilarious stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20291633)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 9:10 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty library

DESCRIBE one of these lulzy incidents to us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20296389)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

Last week while I was out of the room, a rotund women got so excited when she found a responsive doc that she gave a glorious shout, lurched out of her chair and slumped to the floor. She then flopped around on the coffee-stained carpet like a beached whale while wailing pitifully.

Everyone around her continued coding as if nothing had happened. I come back to the room and started investigating why someone was lying prostrate on the floor. The elderly gent next to her notices I'm there, apparently decides that he should try to appear sympathetic, and insincerely yells, "OH SHIT! ARE YOU OK!?!" about thirty seconds after the accident.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298162)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: multi-colored well-lubricated pervert

LOL. that is lulzy indeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298171)



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Date: May 21st, 2014 3:39 PM
Author: racy institution

Tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#25605467)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 7:44 PM
Author: carmine school cafeteria

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29253126)



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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:35 AM
Author: Tan sexy forum

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#46980176)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 9:14 PM
Author: Sepia Center Prole

thought you were in biglaw, man?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20296417)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: multi-colored well-lubricated pervert

LOL! ur late to the party. "I'm in biglaw" many times means "I do various doc review projects"

I got a guy who I know FOR A FACT was doing doc review at Sidley and changed his fb occupation to "associate at Sidley Austin"

gets better.

as he toils in their basement sweating over docs, he threw at least three parties of the "models and bottles" variety in order to, I guess, impress people at school who actually are mocking him.

he's a fat.

it's hilarious.

he's in biglaw.

LOL.

fucking XO is like 5 years late to the fucking party. laugh at JDU, but they actually have a real sense of what is what.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298124)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller State Water Buffalo

he was an appellate clerk; i'm sure he could've stuck with biglaw had he wanted to. but seems that he's now exploiting a team (or maybe teams) of doc review minions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298143)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: multi-colored well-lubricated pervert

CHRIST!

this shit sounds like Hostel.

I don't know to laugh or hide my friends from this menace.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298161)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:49 PM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

The industry is in shambles. Unfortunately, the new predictive coding stuff is just going to reduce doc-review salaries even more.

Just to illustrate how bad things are out there: I was preparing for trial right before the NYC hurricane. Obviously the paras and support staff jumped ship, so I needed a small surrogate team to help with exhibit lists, etc.

So I requested help from K-attys and a bunch of them volunteered to come into the office, storm be damned. What was even more remarkable/scary was that when I cancelled out of guilt (didn't want people dying just to come in for menial wages), they were disappointed that they wouldn't get to work that day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298234)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

Still in biglaw but I handle a lot of expedited discovery and work with K attys quite a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298168)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: multi-colored well-lubricated pervert

show them mercy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298175)



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Date: March 25th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: floppy famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

I like my K attys a lot. TBH they are more enjoyable to be around than most associates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20298192)



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Date: March 26th, 2012 3:09 AM
Author: multi-colored well-lubricated pervert

you sound like a decent dude. keep it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#20299951)



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Date: May 21st, 2014 2:15 PM
Author: drunken lay jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#25604930)



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Date: November 9th, 2014 9:25 PM
Author: stimulating stage haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#26684545)



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Date: November 10th, 2014 1:12 AM
Author: Passionate national security agency selfie

Fuck. Every time I get down about my biglaw gig, I read shit like this, and my attitude changes fast. Still, fuck work, but it could be way worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#26686451)



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Date: November 10th, 2014 1:52 AM
Author: Cocky Rebellious Potus

Having done doc review before, the conditions described itt are not the norm. Usually, it's an overcrowded office but the environment is antisocial yet chill. The coworkers are a mixed bag of disgruntled yet funny, or soulless dead-inside burnouts. Most of the gigs I've done have had limited supervision as long as you meet your quota and full access to internet and cell phones. It's decent pay for doing next to nothing. There are those entitled pricks who complain about every little thing who feel as though working in a room with 10-20 other people is an affront to their dignity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#26686692)



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Date: August 12th, 2015 9:51 PM
Author: disrespectful wine piazza

hope you are doing well today, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#28537922)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 10:56 AM
Author: house-broken abode cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29250717)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 10:57 AM
Author: cracking pontificating pit sound barrier

how are you doing brother? might be better just to be a cop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29250727)



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Date: November 27th, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: Vivacious Bonkers Main People Toaster

I've managed a number of reviews with ten or so contract attorneys a piece. The thing is that most of these guys are doing crap work at least some of the time (drawing a paycheck for sitting there zoned out or surfing the net for 50% of the day) and many are actually putting next to zero effort into their codes and are just randomly marking stuff. As the associate trying to sift through their work you become jaded pretty fast because you can tell that many of them are just trying to squeeze some dough out of the law firm for zero effort. When I hire a big team of contract attorneys I fire several very quickly and explain to the others that it was because of work quality (you should always ask for a few extra than you need at the start so that you can do this). When I find good guys, though, I hire them again and again and treat them very well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#29262259)



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Date: July 16th, 2016 3:31 AM
Author: zombie-like theater generalized bond

What's OP doing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#30942799)



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Date: July 16th, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: transparent toilet seat

I AM THE 180TH POST IN THIS THREAD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#30944515)



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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Histrionic dysfunction turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#36882437)



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Date: July 29th, 2020 1:36 AM
Author: disrespectful wine piazza

so what happened to this guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#40675879)



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Date: September 7th, 2020 10:56 PM
Author: disrespectful wine piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#40885169)



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Date: September 7th, 2020 11:00 PM
Author: bright property sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#40885193)



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Date: September 7th, 2020 11:10 PM
Author: Spruce twisted orchestra pit ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#40885247)



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Date: March 19th, 2021 5:29 PM
Author: Cheese-eating red set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#42133120)



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Date: October 16th, 2023 7:06 PM
Author: copper hospital goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1905137&forum_id=2#46943930)