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Jill Filipovic FREAKING OUT re: new revelation about Trayvon

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/03/28/breaking-tr...
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
"Glosses over the vicious beating endured by the victim...
out-of-control idea he suggested space
  03/28/12
See: "*puts the burden on the defendant to prove his ve...
razzle-dazzle gaming laptop
  03/28/12
1) The burden is not on the defendant to show this. I could...
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
re: 1), then he'll win at trial
Glittery pea-brained famous landscape painting
  03/28/12
DAs only bring cases they reasonably think they can win. Th...
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
is on record calling said teen a fucking coon and starts goi...
bat shit crazy 180 cruise ship
  03/28/12
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcrip...
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
i watched MSNBC and it was clear to all of the objective lis...
Amber chapel
  03/28/12
lol
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
You people just lie and lie
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primrose impertinent parlor
  12/24/18
tbf, said teen was in fact a fucking coon.
honey-headed alcoholic fat ankles home
  03/28/12
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Amber chapel
  03/28/12
1) I'm not referring to trial burdens here. I'm simply point...
out-of-control idea he suggested space
  03/28/12
re: 1) Initial aggressors can legally use deadly force in se...
razzle-dazzle gaming laptop
  03/28/12
lolwut?
out-of-control idea he suggested space
  03/28/12
If you attack someone with force that's not potentially dead...
razzle-dazzle gaming laptop
  03/28/12
1) Okay.... 2) Stalking is a bit of a loaded term. He wa...
fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo
  03/28/12
17 year old niggers rarely assault people? he didn't know h...
Amber chapel
  03/28/12
LOL @ "1) The burden is not on the defendant to show th...
Lavender Codepig
  03/28/12
So prosecutors should charge people with things they can't p...
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  03/28/12
*facepalm*
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  03/28/12
she'll no doubt censor you if you disagree with her right?
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  03/28/12
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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:22 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/03/28/breaking-trayvon-martin-a-normal-teenage-boy/

*Claims people are arguing that Trayvon deserved to be shot for his shady past*

*Glosses over the vicious beating endured by the victim*

*puts the burden on the defendant to prove his version of events is correct*

Shitlibs, you have reached new lows.

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He used bad words! He maybe smoked pot! He was suspended from school for “truancy” and for being late a lot! He quoted rap lyrics on his Twitter account! Given these revelations, it was clearly ok for an armed stranger to stalk him on the street and shoot him in the chest, right?

Here’s the thing about most people: We are not perfect. Very few of us would make perfect victims. But certain classes of people are given the benefit of the doubt more than others; they’re considered more trustworthy, more deserving of living a victimization-free life. Certain classes of people will have their pasts, or perceived imperfect behavior, brought up to explain why they really aren’t victims, even when that past has no bearing on the particular crime at hand.

Black men are rarely “good” victims.

It sounds like Trayvon Martin was a pretty average teenager. He liked some offensive rap lyrics. He might have smoked pot. He engaged in a few minor acts of delinquency. Sounds pretty much like me and everyone I knew in high school.

But somehow the revelation of “Trayvon Martin: Normal Human Being” is supposed to bolster George Zimmerman’s claim that his shooting of Trayvon was in self-defense. And there are some bits of information that, if they came to light, might do that — if for example the victim of an allegedly self-defensive shooting was known to violently attack strangers on the street. That’s relevant because if the story is “I approached him on the street and he violently attacked me and I shot him in self-defense,” then yes, if the victim had a history of attacking other people on the street, that bolsters the shooter’s story. Similarly, it’s relevant that Zimmerman was known to be an over-zealous vigilante who called 911 dozens of times on any black person he deemed “suspicious,” including a seven-year-old boy. But the “revelations” about Trayvon? They don’t give any credence at all to Zimmerman’s story that he approached Trayvon and Trayvon proceeded to kick the crap out of him (although I’ll briefly point out here that even if Zimmerman’s story is largely true, it feels mighty threatening to be a kid walking down a dark suburban street by yourself, and have some guy tail you in his SUV and then get out and confront you. If I had the heft and felt physically threatened, I might deck the guy too).

Even if Trayvon was all of the things that racist Zimmerman apologists want him to have been — even if he was a juvenile delinquent, a thief, a drug-user, a thug — it’s still not ok for his neighbor to assassinate him on a street corner. It doesn’t make Zimmermans actions de facto “self-defense.” Self-defense requires that the person defending themselves be immediately threatened with bodily harm. Self-defense is not “I’m allowed to shoot this kid because he is Bad.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323217)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:23 PM
Author: out-of-control idea he suggested space

"Glosses over the vicious beating endured by the victim"

tbf, what evidence is there that Trayvon initiated the physical altercation besides Zimmerman's statement to this effect?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323225)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:25 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gaming laptop

See: "*puts the burden on the defendant to prove his version of events is correct*"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323237)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:25 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

1) The burden is not on the defendant to show this. I could ask you what evidence there is that Zimmerman initiated it (which is the question we should be asking).

2) Zimmerman told 911 he lost sight of him http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

3) 5'9 fat dudes don't regularly assault 6'3 muscular guys 10 years their junior. If he was out for blood he would have maintained distance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323238)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:27 PM
Author: Glittery pea-brained famous landscape painting

re: 1), then he'll win at trial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323251)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

DAs only bring cases they reasonably think they can win. They have no evidence here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323270)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:27 PM
Author: bat shit crazy 180 cruise ship

is on record calling said teen a fucking coon and starts going after him with a loaded gun...yeah close call

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323259)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:28 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

nope, he said he lost sight of him. that lends credence to his claim he was returning to his suv.

also, it is not on record he said fucking coon. it's pareidolia - he could be saying anything. sounds to me like "punks" I know this seems strange to you, but you can take any unintelligible recording and make the listener think they are hearing any number of things - this is documented.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323267)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:41 PM
Author: Amber chapel

i watched MSNBC and it was clear to all of the objective listeners that he said coon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323357)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:42 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323361)



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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: Zombie-like Genital Piercing

You people just lie and lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#36838895)



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Date: December 24th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: primrose impertinent parlor



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: honey-headed alcoholic fat ankles home

tbf, said teen was in fact a fucking coon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323269)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:35 PM
Author: Amber chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323317)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:31 PM
Author: out-of-control idea he suggested space

1) I'm not referring to trial burdens here. I'm simply pointing out that "the vicious beating" only matters if it was not in self defense, and whether it was or not is far from an indisputable fact.

2) Zimmerman was the one stalking Trayvon, not the other way around

3) 17 year old kids don't regularly assault armed adults

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323286)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:33 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gaming laptop

re: 1) Initial aggressors can legally use deadly force in self defense under Florida law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323307)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:58 PM
Author: out-of-control idea he suggested space

lolwut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323453)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gaming laptop

If you attack someone with force that's not potentially deadly and they respond with potentially deadly force, you can rightful defend yourself using deadly force.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323481)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:34 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

1) Okay....

2) Stalking is a bit of a loaded term. He was neighborhood watch. His job was to watch people

3) He did not have his gun drawn. If he had, the fight would have lasted .00009 seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323311)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:35 PM
Author: Amber chapel

17 year old niggers rarely assault people? he didn't know he had a gun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323320)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:40 PM
Author: Lavender Codepig

LOL @ "1) The burden is not on the defendant to show this.."

I'll grant you that point....once he is MADE A DEFENDANT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323349)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:41 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gaming laptop

So prosecutors should charge people with things they can't prove?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323353)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:43 PM
Author: fear-inspiring geriatric hall tattoo

*facepalm*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323365)



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Date: March 28th, 2012 2:43 PM
Author: Amber chapel

she'll no doubt censor you if you disagree with her right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910091&forum_id=2#20323368)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:50 PM
Author: Charismatic police squad

NO SILENCE NO PEACE SHITLIBS SHITEIBS IAJFAIJRJOCJCOIGHGHHH

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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:50 PM
Author: Charismatic police squad

NO SILENCE NO PEACE SHITLIBS SHITEIBS IAJFAIJRJOCJCOIGHGHHH

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Date: July 14th, 2013 2:19 PM
Author: Charismatic police squad

WGWAG WGWAG ZIMMERHERO WINS LETS POST MORE



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Date: July 14th, 2013 2:19 PM
Author: Charismatic police squad

WGWAG WGWAG ZIMMERHERO WINS LETS POST MORE



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