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Virginia Foxx - Boomer Cunt Menace Fights For U. of Phoenix

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/16/a_huge_student_loan_scam/sin...
Grizzly lay
  04/18/12
OMG her head needs to go on a pike (not a threat)
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
“Protecting Academic Freedom in Higher Education Act.” ...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
how come we are some of the only people who can write about ...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
How the FUCK do people not know about this.
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
how would you propose a racist message board goes about unse...
primrose motley roast beef shrine
  04/18/12
we'd need to create a blog with well written well researched...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
Ya'know. .. I was with you until you got to the last part: ...
Pale Fluffy Philosopher-king
  07/21/14
lol
Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House
  04/18/12
...
Light deep rigpig son of senegal
  04/19/12
Will I be placed on an FBI watch list if I say that this vil...
well-lubricated ape stage
  04/18/12
Date: April 18th, 2012 2:09 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,........,...
Light deep rigpig son of senegal
  11/27/14
Ugh.
Big-titted Therapy
  04/18/12
btw, can this cunt take a picture without it seeming like sh...
primrose motley roast beef shrine
  04/18/12
Fucking Bitch! But as it turns out, Foxx herself is benef...
chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea
  04/18/12
LOL JUST LOL JFC
well-lubricated ape stage
  04/18/12
180 180 180
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
I wonder how Munger Tolles feels about representing shysters...
Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House
  04/18/12
Americans don't care abt being ass raped for the last 30 yea...
Chocolate wonderful electric furnace
  04/18/12
...
Light deep rigpig son of senegal
  04/19/12
This is the same woman who bashed lazy entitled students bit...
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1925090&mc...
well-lubricated ape stage
  04/18/12
cr. the same woman with an "Doctorate" in "Ed...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
This wouldn't be an issue if we didn't give teenagers loans ...
haunting locale
  04/18/12
...
Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House
  04/18/12
it would be nice if our legislators were merely incompetent,...
galvanic internal respiration
  04/18/12
...
well-lubricated ape stage
  04/18/12
surely u cant be referring to the GOP congressheroes who are...
Copper Jewess Stain
  04/18/12
i trust them to save america about as much as i trust a pack...
galvanic internal respiration
  04/18/12
wtffffffffffffff @ this unpatriotism
Copper Jewess Stain
  04/19/12
...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
FIRE UP THE GUILLOTINES
charismatic brunch
  04/18/12
reptiles, plz explain
trip abode skinny woman
  04/18/12
special interest schilling transcends politics.
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
this. what an amazing waste of taxpayer money. the gop platf...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
This lady can be enemy #1 of our anti-boomer Huffpo
Vigorous Puppy Karate
  04/18/12
unfortunately, since she was born in '43, she is actually a ...
galvanic internal respiration
  04/18/12
if it looks like a boomer, acts like a boomer, and has benef...
unhinged potus
  04/18/12
why doesn't the gop have an official free market stance on s...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
LOL at thinking the GOP wants actual free markets. Both part...
chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea
  04/18/12
a lot of the GOP "base" would be furious at the id...
galvanic internal respiration
  04/18/12
i know the base is retarded but you think they'd actually su...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
you're assuming they have an understanding of the issue that...
unhinged potus
  04/18/12
it's simpler than that, i really just think it is "does...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
...
Light deep rigpig son of senegal
  04/19/12
REMINDER: The House actually passed this POS legislation (wi...
Arousing learning disabled point
  04/18/12
the GOP is the worst when it comes to corruption and special...
chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea
  04/18/12
What Rep. Richard Hanna, R had to say on the issue: “Ups...
Arousing learning disabled point
  04/18/12
just have an entire generation of kids fund your economic de...
naked space queen of the night
  04/18/12
180
chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea
  04/18/12
upstate new york politicians are some of the worst people al...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
were getting eiffeled bros http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...
slippery factory reset button
  04/18/12
lol University of Phoenix.
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
...
vibrant pistol depressive
  04/18/12
...
naked space queen of the night
  04/19/12
Will we ever come together to end this fucking charade? Fuck...
irradiated whorehouse
  04/19/12
nope. all the people with the experience and skills to unify...
slippery factory reset button
  04/20/12
...
Light deep rigpig son of senegal
  04/19/14
fuck the shitlibs. fuck the shitcons. fuck them all.
Embarrassed to the bone organic girlfriend
  04/19/14
...
Hairraiser Insecure Ticket Booth
  07/21/14
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  12/05/16


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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: Grizzly lay

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/16/a_huge_student_loan_scam/singleton/

Earlier this year, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to pass a bill with the impressive, everybody-can-get-behind-this title “Protecting Academic Freedom in Higher Education Act.” Sponsored by the ultra-conservative North Carolina Republican Virginia Foxx, the bill ostensibly took aim at an issue close to small-government-loving hearts: intrusive federal regulation of for-profit colleges — fast growing, highly profitable outfits like DeVry University or the online-only University of Phoenix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490665)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:08 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive

OMG her head needs to go on a pike (not a threat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490679)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

“Protecting Academic Freedom in Higher Education Act.”

This is actually an ALEC piece of legislation. Someone leaked the model legislation; you can find it. this shyster is just introducing alec shit here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490818)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:08 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

how come we are some of the only people who can write about this shit and we do nothing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490676)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:08 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive

How the FUCK do people not know about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490680)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:09 PM
Author: primrose motley roast beef shrine

how would you propose a racist message board goes about unseating powerful interests like this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490683)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:10 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

we'd need to create a blog with well written well researched pieces. we need a catchy title. something like youthanize.

also, nigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490691)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:40 PM
Author: Pale Fluffy Philosopher-king

Ya'know. .. I was with you until you got to the last part:

"youthanize"

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#25975922)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490823)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: Light deep rigpig son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20502457)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:09 PM
Author: well-lubricated ape stage

Will I be placed on an FBI watch list if I say that this vile cunt should be dipped in acid and subsequently dismembered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490685)



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Date: November 27th, 2014 6:27 PM
Author: Light deep rigpig son of senegal

Date: April 18th, 2012 2:09 PM

Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.

Will I be placed on an FBI watch list if I say that this vile cunt should be dipped in acid and subsequently dismembered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#26812015)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:10 PM
Author: Big-titted Therapy

Ugh.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490688)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:11 PM
Author: primrose motley roast beef shrine

btw, can this cunt take a picture without it seeming like she has something stuck up her ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490695)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:14 PM
Author: chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea

Fucking Bitch!

But as it turns out, Foxx herself is benefiting from the waste and abuse of federal tax dollars. Among the top 20 financial contributors to Foxx in the 2011-2012 cycle are the Association of Private Sector Colleges/Universities, the Apollo Group (owner of the University of Phoenix), and Corinthian Colleges. Since federal student loans comprise the vast majority of the revenues of those for-profit schools, it follows that their campaign contributions to Foxx are also made possible by U.S. taxpayers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490713)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:15 PM
Author: well-lubricated ape stage

LOL JUST LOL

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490722)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:27 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

180 180 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490806)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:33 PM
Author: Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House

I wonder how Munger Tolles feels about representing shysters like Corinthian Colleges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490846)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:31 PM
Author: Chocolate wonderful electric furnace

Americans don't care abt being ass raped for the last 30 years as long as they can continue getting DEM iPads and shop at DEM Old Navy spring sale.

Fuck you commies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490840)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: Light deep rigpig son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20502464)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:38 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive

This is the same woman who bashed lazy entitled students bitching about loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490890)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: well-lubricated ape stage

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1925090&mc=239&forum_id=2

Rep. Virginia Foxx On People With Student Loans: ‘I Have Very Little Tolerance’ For Them

Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) took on a unique enemy during a radio interview yesterday: people with student loans.

Though many politicians sympathize with those who are saddled with exorbitant student debt, Foxx, who chairs the House subcommittee on higher education, had a different take. Appearing on G. Gordon Liddy’s radio show, the North Carolina congresswoman recounted her own experience paying for college, where she worked her way through and graduated after seven years. Foxx then pointed to her own experience as justification for why she has “very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt.” “There’s no reason for that,” she concluded:

FOXX: I went through school, I worked my way through, it took me seven years, I never borrowed a dime of money. He borrowed a little bit because we both were totally on our own when we went to college, totally. [...] I have very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt because there’s no reason for that. We live in an opportunity society and people are forgetting that. I remind folks all the time that the Declaration of Independence says “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” You don’t have it dumped in your lap.

Read more at ONTD Political: http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9559100.html#ixzz1sAfNJcBw

Dear Congresswoman:

I have very little tolerance for entitled boomers enjoying mortgage bailouts, Soc. Security payments, Medicare benefits and pensions (all of which I'll likely never receive) thanks to my tax dollars. When you graduated from college in 1968, a student working 6.2 hours a week at minimum wage could pay for college.

http://oncampus.mpr.org/2011/03/working-through-school-1968-vs-now/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490901)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 2:40 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

cr. the same woman with an "Doctorate" in "Education" who ran a fucking community college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20490907)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:12 PM
Author: haunting locale

This wouldn't be an issue if we didn't give teenagers loans to study what they are "passionate" about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491164)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:13 PM
Author: Vivacious Sweet Tailpipe House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491168)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: galvanic internal respiration

it would be nice if our legislators were merely incompetent, but well-meaning.

instead, they are actively evil. they despise us. they probably want us dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491194)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:18 PM
Author: well-lubricated ape stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491208)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:20 PM
Author: Copper Jewess Stain

surely u cant be referring to the GOP congressheroes who are possibly the only line of defense between this nation and oblivion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491225)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:21 PM
Author: galvanic internal respiration

i trust them to save america about as much as i trust a pack of feral cats to go easy on the mice that live nearby, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491238)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 8:43 PM
Author: Copper Jewess Stain

wtffffffffffffff @ this unpatriotism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20500998)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:46 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491463)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:17 PM
Author: charismatic brunch

FIRE UP THE GUILLOTINES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491200)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:21 PM
Author: trip abode skinny woman

reptiles, plz explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491234)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:21 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive

special interest schilling transcends politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491242)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:47 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

this. what an amazing waste of taxpayer money. the gop platform on student loans should be removal of the bankruptcy discharge and the exit of the federal government from the student loan market. instead they don't have a platform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491469)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:27 PM
Author: Vigorous Puppy Karate

This lady can be enemy #1 of our anti-boomer Huffpo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491283)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:33 PM
Author: galvanic internal respiration

unfortunately, since she was born in '43, she is actually a member of the silent generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491359)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:37 PM
Author: unhinged potus

if it looks like a boomer, acts like a boomer, and has benefitted like a boomer...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491397)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:49 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

why doesn't the gop have an official free market stance on student loans? they could argue for the exit of the federal government from the student loan market and the removal of the non-dischargeability of student loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491478)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:53 PM
Author: chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea

LOL at thinking the GOP wants actual free markets. Both parties are designed to enrich their respective interest groups, that is all they give a fuck about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491510)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:54 PM
Author: galvanic internal respiration

a lot of the GOP "base" would be furious at the idea of "lazy kids" being given "free money" to go smoke pot for four years at some "college."

actually, they seem to enjoy the plight of student debtors quite a bit. they finally get to "stick it" to those snooty kids who went to more school after highschool instead of going to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491519)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:58 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

i know the base is retarded but you think they'd actually support getting rid of the taxpayer subsidy- no loans for uppity college kids and all that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491548)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:00 PM
Author: unhinged potus

you're assuming they have an understanding of the issue that goes beyond "government wants to regulate something and that's bad."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491561)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:43 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

it's simpler than that, i really just think it is "does this help me directly or does it blow something up or fire bullets" if not = socialism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491897)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 11:11 PM
Author: Light deep rigpig son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20502488)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:56 PM
Author: Arousing learning disabled point

REMINDER: The House actually passed this POS legislation (with 69! cosponsors)

The House believes that a for profit "university" shouldn't be held to calling a credit hour something that actually comes with at least an hour of classroom work.

Jesus Christ, how can you even think about passing something like this without attaching the stipulation that you can't get federal loans for such an unregulated program

Pretty soon you're going to have idiots borrowing 30K from the government for a couple of pdf files from your local university of Phoenix!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491535)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 3:59 PM
Author: chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea

the GOP is the worst when it comes to corruption and special interest groups. defense, for-profit education, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491551)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:04 PM
Author: Arousing learning disabled point

What Rep. Richard Hanna, R had to say on the issue:

“Upstate New York is a worldwide higher education destination. The 24th Congressional District is home to about 20 colleges and universities, which is one of the highest concentrations of higher learning in the nation,” Hanna said. “These schools are assets to our communities and local economies. Higher education means direct jobs and collaborative partnerships with private industry."

http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/hanna-votes-for-protecting-academic-freedom-in-higher-education-act/article_a3c24422-6257-11e1-88f0-0019bb2963f4.html

that's right! They're not even trying to hide the fact they're into extorting money from students. More jobs funded by student loans are good for the local economy, says Republican representative. Having legitimate credit hours costs too much and costs us local jobs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491597)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:06 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night

just have an entire generation of kids fund your economic development bro and pay interest on it bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491612)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:08 PM
Author: chestnut at-the-ready temple marketing idea

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491630)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:07 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

upstate new york politicians are some of the worst people alive.

nys prisons are at half capacity. yet you can't close a single one because of the republican upstate representatives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491620)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:09 PM
Author: slippery factory reset button

were getting eiffeled bros

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/09/BAHT1IT646.DTL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491639)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 4:30 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive

lol University of Phoenix.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20491804)



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Date: April 18th, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: vibrant pistol depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20492255)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 9:21 PM
Author: naked space queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20501265)



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Date: April 19th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: irradiated whorehouse

Will we ever come together to end this fucking charade? Fucking Gen x and y, wise up you fucking faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20502807)



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Date: April 20th, 2012 1:46 AM
Author: slippery factory reset button

nope. all the people with the experience and skills to unify young people are all fighting the boomer battles of the 60s/70s. mostly on the left but some on the right too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#20504003)



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Date: April 19th, 2014 10:56 PM
Author: Light deep rigpig son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#25412218)



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Date: April 19th, 2014 11:03 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone organic girlfriend

fuck the shitlibs. fuck the shitcons. fuck them all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1927105&forum_id=2#25412265)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:39 PM
Author: Hairraiser Insecure Ticket Booth



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Date: December 5th, 2016 5:21 PM
Author: Stirring home toilet seat



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