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Was the fall of the Roman Empire an apocalypse situation

The Romans, and some of the colonies such as England, had th...
Galvanic up-to-no-good newt
  04/25/12
(moron trying so hard to grasp something that he has no hope...
burgundy impressive marketing idea resort
  04/25/12
dan carlin discussed this at length in his "Thor's Ange...
chocolate boistinker locale
  04/25/12
are you watching the hockey game
fuchsia underhanded ratface
  04/25/12
of course. there are other games on tonight, too: ht...
chocolate boistinker locale
  04/25/12
lolzy
fuchsia underhanded ratface
  04/25/12
not really, apocalypse is sudden and the fall of even the we...
pale halford reading party
  04/25/12
Is that because of the high debt? The U.S. has been spendin...
Galvanic up-to-no-good newt
  04/25/12
(guy who hasn't watched Spartacus)
Appetizing meetinghouse
  04/25/12
look around you. theres your answer, friend.
shaky station
  05/26/20
look at minnesota
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shaky station
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fuck, got us there
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nyuug
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Probably heard stories about losing areas on the fringe of t...
Harsh stage
  05/28/20
, but enough about america
shaky station
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shaky station
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(literal-minded retard who didn't get the point)
Marvelous garrison
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lollercausting HARD
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Laughsome Flesh Ladyboy
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Except in the case of Rome, the "barbarians" were ...
free-loading cracking parlor
  06/15/20
Just a long shitty decline where people gave up or forgot ho...
Mustard Therapy Volcanic Crater
  05/28/20
I mean if the guy who knew how to make clay/lead pipes moved...
Harsh stage
  05/28/20
There probably was a book, but it was written on shitty mate...
lemon curious candlestick maker roommate
  06/15/20
had no idea that honiara was doing his retard schtick as far...
Marvelous garrison
  05/28/20
itt: dumbasses who forgot the fall of Rome meant the ascensi...
infuriating degenerate
  06/07/20
*leans into mic*
shaky station
  06/07/20
Wow, so Bowlcut was a total fucking chode 8 years ago, just ...
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Awkward institution
  06/09/20
it was described as an apocalypse-type situation by many wit...
Concupiscible public bath
  06/08/20
definitely no parallels between the fall of rome and the fal...
shaky station
  06/08/20
did i say otherwise?
Concupiscible public bath
  06/08/20
friend i would be more than willing to let you ride out the ...
shaky station
  06/08/20
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Concupiscible public bath
  06/08/20
ok bro but dont try and rape me gingham style
seedy charcoal home
  06/09/20
big korean cock is REAL.
shaky station
  06/15/20
nyuug really shit up this thread, didn’t he?
Awkward institution
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Date: April 25th, 2012 7:58 PM
Author: Galvanic up-to-no-good newt

The Romans, and some of the colonies such as England, had things like running water and sewage systems that would not be duplicated in Europe for centuries. The order and security provided by the Roman government and legions, and civil institutions deteriorated and then disappeared. Trade and commerce, which depended on that order and security, stopped. The Germanic tribes who came in and took over were considered to be primitive barbarians by comparison. It's ironic that the Germanics eventually advanced and built the technological society we have now. Took a hell of a long time though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547395)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 7:59 PM
Author: burgundy impressive marketing idea resort

(moron trying so hard to grasp something that he has no hope of understanding)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547401)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:04 PM
Author: chocolate boistinker locale

dan carlin discussed this at length in his "Thor's Angels" podcast:

http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php?page=hharchive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547457)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:06 PM
Author: fuchsia underhanded ratface

are you watching the hockey game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547482)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:09 PM
Author: chocolate boistinker locale

of course.

there are other games on tonight, too:

http://whl.ca/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547506)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:09 PM
Author: fuchsia underhanded ratface

lolzy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547513)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:25 PM
Author: pale halford reading party

not really, apocalypse is sudden and the fall of even the western empire took centuries during which everyone could see it happening in slow mo. Just read gibbon bro (supertroll)

the most exact equivalent in our lifetimes will not be the loss of American geopolitical empire, but rather the slow decline of the American dollar (and the concomitant decline in American living standards)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547631)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:50 PM
Author: Galvanic up-to-no-good newt

Is that because of the high debt? The U.S. has been spending beyond its means for many years, except for that stretch during Clinton's admin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547805)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:52 PM
Author: Appetizing meetinghouse

(guy who hasn't watched Spartacus)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#20547821)



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Date: May 26th, 2020 10:08 PM
Author: shaky station

look around you. theres your answer, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40281924)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 7:06 PM
Author: shaky station

look at minnesota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40293782)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 7:37 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40293963)



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Date: June 5th, 2020 12:54 AM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40351533)



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Date: June 7th, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40373155)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:19 AM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374832)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:27 AM
Author: Adventurous Embarrassed To The Bone Rigpig Faggot Firefighter

fuck, got us there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374883)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 4:13 AM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40375247)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 5:55 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40378923)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 12:45 AM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40381513)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40388081)



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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:47 AM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40418908)



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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:44 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40439041)



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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:46 PM
Author: beady-eyed low-t mediation antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40439052)



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Date: June 21st, 2020 10:31 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40469375)



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Date: June 24th, 2020 12:36 AM
Author: shaky station



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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:19 PM
Author: nyuug (ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40577150)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:16 PM
Author: Harsh stage

Probably heard stories about losing areas on the fringe of the empire like Dacia and thought it’s NBD, were still hanging in there w Persians. Egypt crop yields are up, plenty of people wanting to move here still.

Then after hordes took over w few areas maybe made some people nervous. Hordes were then incorporated into the Roman army, it’s all good. We’re at the top, just bring in some more cheap slaves and labor. Give them some land nobody wanted anyways.

Roman army led by hordes goes berzerk and loots everything and romans think “well we’ve always had civil wars.” This will blow over they’re still learning our language. Generation goes by and the next one is used to Roman army being slightly unreliable, mostly foreign, and constantly looting territory.

Generation goes by. Maybe you stop paying taxes, don’t care to pay taxes, see Roman army as more of a problem than help. None of your friends and relatives are going into it so why care what they do as long as they leave you alone.

Generation goes by. Now “Roman” army shows up and you’re so used to this that you just leave the city and move somewhere else. Who cares if the burn the city to the ground. The government is corrupt and ineffective and has no control over anything. When the Roman army leader appoints himself emperor, you say whatever. There’s always been two emperors, the one in Constantinople is still ok.

Generation goes by and nobody cares about emperor 2000 miles away. You’re used to barbarians being in charge, they’re not that bad. Buildings are crumbling and you’re taking dumps in the street, but you don’t even know any different. Grandpa keeps talking about Roman legions, but that’s more of a Greek thing now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294419)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: shaky station

, but enough about america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294425)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 9:55 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40333954)



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Date: June 3rd, 2020 9:52 PM
Author: shaky station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40342829)



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Date: June 4th, 2020 2:04 AM
Author: Marvelous garrison

(literal-minded retard who didn't get the point)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40344560)



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Date: June 4th, 2020 2:06 AM
Author: shaky station

lollercausting HARD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40344566)



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Date: June 4th, 2020 2:08 AM
Author: titillating unholy international law enforcement agency gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40344572)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 10:49 PM
Author: Awkward institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40388099)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:24 PM
Author: pea-brained fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294451)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 10:49 PM
Author: Laughsome Flesh Ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40388097)



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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:15 AM
Author: free-loading cracking parlor

Except in the case of Rome, the "barbarians" were Germanics and were much more effective bureaucrats than the Latins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40419006)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:39 PM
Author: Mustard Therapy Volcanic Crater

Just a long shitty decline where people gave up or forgot how to be civilized. Except if you were in a sacked city it probably was hard to notice. There was a good summary in some book about how in britannia people just abandoned houses with plumbing and heating and shit because they couldnt figure out how to maintain them and ended up in shitty huts in the woods and shit. Families would bury their silver cache clearly imagining they'd come back for it and never did until it got dug up by some archaeologist 1600 years later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294508)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:55 PM
Author: Harsh stage

I mean if the guy who knew how to make clay/lead pipes moved away/was killed, you’re kind of out of luck. Doubt there was a book on how to make pipes when the only guy who knew how to do it died

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294610)



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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: lemon curious candlestick maker roommate

There probably was a book, but it was written on shitty materials that deteriorated quickly and in Latin or Greek. The church had a near monopoly on ability to store, reproduce and read written materials, and they devoted nearly 100% of their efforts to religious texts, which are largely uninformative about matters of public sanitation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40419031)



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Date: May 28th, 2020 9:57 PM
Author: Marvelous garrison

had no idea that honiara was doing his retard schtick as far back as 2012.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40294622)



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Date: June 7th, 2020 9:16 PM
Author: infuriating degenerate

itt: dumbasses who forgot the fall of Rome meant the ascension of Christianity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40373224)



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Date: June 7th, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: shaky station

*leans into mic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40373229)



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Date: June 7th, 2020 9:29 PM
Author: silver trump supporter pit

Wow, so Bowlcut was a total fucking chode 8 years ago, just like now? Interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40373308)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 10:50 PM
Author: Awkward institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40388106)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:21 AM
Author: Concupiscible public bath

it was described as an apocalypse-type situation by many witnesses, yeah, or at least close to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374847)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:22 AM
Author: shaky station

definitely no parallels between the fall of rome and the fall of america. not even a single one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374852)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:22 AM
Author: Concupiscible public bath

did i say otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374855)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:26 AM
Author: shaky station

friend i would be more than willing to let you ride out the endtimes here in korea where things are safe and calm. not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374877)



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Date: June 8th, 2020 1:26 AM
Author: Concupiscible public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40374879)



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Date: June 9th, 2020 11:04 PM
Author: seedy charcoal home

ok bro but dont try and rape me gingham style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40388174)



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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:46 PM
Author: shaky station

big korean cock is REAL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40425092)



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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:48 AM
Author: Awkward institution

nyuug really shit up this thread, didn’t he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1933096&forum_id=2#40418913)