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got "the talk" re billing today

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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
did HR tell the partners though? i've never handed in anyth...
140k  05/08/12
that stuff can get you permanently disbarred. Risky move br...
bubblegum  05/08/12
Judging from the frequency that ppl admit to overbilling on ...
,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.  05/08/12
Lol the firm would look the other way unless it was egregiou...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband  05/08/12
Exactly, and if it is egregious and they fire you, lol @ the...
,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.  05/08/12
WTF kids, what happened to being ethical? Grossly overstati...
bubblegum  05/08/12
I don't overbill. In fact, I think I'm inefficient and ofte...
,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.  05/08/12
underbilling is dumb you should at least give self benefit o...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,,..,:::,...,:..,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/08/12
this is cr. Unless it is clear that you didn't spend 3 h...
bubblegum  05/08/12
same. i underbill. not a lot but i do sometimes. never overb...
'''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.  05/08/12
lol it's pretty much impossible to catch anyone padding. how...
,,,...,,......,,....  05/08/12
*is an L&E lawyer* *regularly busts employees using t...
wishiwerntapostr  05/08/12
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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
??? They told you to have all time in by x, and you blew it?...
bubblegum  05/08/12
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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
turning in your billing entries FIVE DAYS late is what promp...
" " " ''  05/08/12
xo needs more posts about secretaries being useless. ...
" " '' ''  05/08/12
My secretary is amazing. Sucks for you guys.
,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,  05/08/12
what does this even mean? I've been in biglaw for 3 years an...
,.,...,..,,.,:,;,;,.,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.  05/08/12
Sorry, I should clarify that I'm not in biglaw. She makes my...
,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,  05/08/12
Well if shes a slut....
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/08/12
My secretary was out a last week, and her replacement was ev...
,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.  05/08/12
seems that walking over and giving this explanation probably...
OSIRIS  05/08/12
I didn't have one (don't usually do this kind of thing) and ...
,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.  05/08/12
1) not that bad if you stop fucking up now and are otherwise...
Metta World Peace  05/08/12
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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
rape is the answer
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,,..,:::,...,:..,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/08/12
eh no thanks
.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
Why is this such a big deal? I don't know anything about law...
Zoomer who thinks this is red lobster fb wall  05/08/12
its not just law, any line of work that involves submitting ...
140k  05/08/12
So basically NBD if the client isn't a bitch about it?
Zoomer who thinks this is red lobster fb wall  05/08/12
That's not what "the talk" means little breh.
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband  05/08/12
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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
I think this falls into the "talked to me about" c...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband  05/08/12
Stephen Pesner?
:D  05/08/12
That's not the talk. That's a nudge. It's no big deal. Every...
.,.,.,.,..,.,..:,,:,....,:::,..,:,.,.::.:.,:,::,.  05/08/12
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.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  05/08/12
this guy just said he hasn't billed correctly a single time ...
140k  05/08/12
Time to start exploring your taco truck options.
self-satisfied and socially compliant  05/08/12
thank god i got bigfed
..;..,...;..,.,..;..,,;;.,.,.,.,..;.,.,.;.  05/08/12
this is no big deal at all. everyone submits their time late...
OSIRIS  05/08/12


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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:12 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647067)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:14 PM
Author: 140k

did HR tell the partners though? i've never handed in anything late but i've always fudged numbers, which is far worse ethically but gets you far ahead in life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647086)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:16 PM
Author: bubblegum

that stuff can get you permanently disbarred. Risky move breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647096)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:20 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.

Judging from the frequency that ppl admit to overbilling on this board, it doesn't seem like it gets caught very often. Plus, if the firm does find out, it's more likely that firm would just fire you rather than report you to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647146)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:22 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband

Lol the firm would look the other way unless it was egregious. They make more money from this practice than you do. Hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647161)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:24 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.

Exactly, and if it is egregious and they fire you, lol @ them reporting you to the bar and having to tell clients, "X was padding his hours, so we're not gonna be able to bill you for his work." Not gonna happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647174)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:34 PM
Author: bubblegum

WTF kids, what happened to being ethical? Grossly overstating your time is unethical. Just don't do it breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647262)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:35 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,........,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.

I don't overbill. In fact, I think I'm inefficient and often underbill. Just was responding to the assertion that there is any significant risk in getting disbarred for overbilling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647278)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:37 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,,..,:::,...,:..,.:..:.,:.::,.

underbilling is dumb you should at least give self benefit of doubt even if trying to be very accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647303)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:42 PM
Author: bubblegum

this is cr.

Unless it is clear that you didn't spend 3 hr on the matter, bill 3 hr. I am all for being ethical and all that, but don't cut yourself short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647368)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:44 PM
Author: '''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.

same. i underbill. not a lot but i do sometimes. never overbill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20648585)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:18 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

lol it's pretty much impossible to catch anyone padding. how would you ever know for sure how much time someone spent on something? the only way people ever get caught is when they double bill their time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20648314)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:25 PM
Author: wishiwerntapostr

*is an L&E lawyer*

*regularly busts employees using their internet history*

*overbills*

*lol it's pretty much impossible to catch anyone padding"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20648396)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:16 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647102)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:19 PM
Author: bubblegum

??? They told you to have all time in by x, and you blew it? This is bad little breh, you just costed your firm lots of $$$$. Otherwise I submit my time biweekly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647131)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:20 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647148)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:26 PM
Author: " " " ''

turning in your billing entries FIVE DAYS late is what prompts you to fucking look for a lateral position? ridiculous flame. who gives a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647189)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:15 PM
Author: " " '' ''

xo needs more posts about secretaries being useless.

rate my last interaction:

ask for information.

apparently ive interrupted her doing nothing. "don't you know about x?"

"yes, i was just wondering if--"

"you need to talk to dr. bonobo"

"right, dr. bonobo isn't here so i just thought id see--"

"why don't you email him?"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647091)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:26 PM
Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,

My secretary is amazing. Sucks for you guys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647190)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:29 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,,.,:,;,;,.,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.

what does this even mean? I've been in biglaw for 3 years and I still have no idea what I'm supposed to use that dumb slut for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647219)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,

Sorry, I should clarify that I'm not in biglaw. She makes my life much, much easier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647223)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:15 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Well if shes a slut....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20648905)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:29 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.

My secretary was out a last week, and her replacement was even more useless.

Me: "hey, we're doing this presentation off-site and I'm not sure if the person I've emailed the PowerPoint to will have it set up. I'm going to send you the file, I need you to save a copy to a USB drive so I have a backup copy."

Secretary: "yooo... esss... beee?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647214)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: OSIRIS (ggtp)

seems that walking over and giving this explanation probably took more time than it would have for you just to plug in the USB drive to your comp and save the file yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647243)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:34 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.

I didn't have one (don't usually do this kind of thing) and needed her to get one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647267)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:15 PM
Author: Metta World Peace

1) not that bad if you stop fucking up now and are otherwise good at your job

2) knock her unconscious and shit in her mouth*

*Not legal advice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647093)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:17 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647111)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:18 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,,..,:::,...,:..,.:..:.,:.::,.

rape is the answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647115)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:18 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,

eh no thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647121)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:20 PM
Author: Zoomer who thinks this is red lobster fb wall

Why is this such a big deal? I don't know anything about law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647142)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:24 PM
Author: 140k

its not just law, any line of work that involves submitting billables this is a bad thing. you miss a deadline your firm risks not getting compensated, shows bad personal organizational skills, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647176)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:27 PM
Author: Zoomer who thinks this is red lobster fb wall

So basically NBD if the client isn't a bitch about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647200)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:21 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband

That's not what "the talk" means little breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647150)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:21 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647153)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:23 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Husband

I think this falls into the "talked to me about" category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647170)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:21 PM
Author: :D (handsome, sociable, charismatic, would make a good husband, dawg)

Stephen Pesner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647156)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:22 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,..,.,..:,,:,....,:::,..,:,.,.::.:.,:,::,.

That's not the talk. That's a nudge. It's no big deal. Everyone lapses. Just try to do it on time. The partner won't think about it again, unless he gets another call about you two weeks later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647164)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:25 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647186)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:26 PM
Author: 140k

this guy just said he hasn't billed correctly a single time and he's a 3rd year associate

that's possible outting material

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647197)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:27 PM
Author: self-satisfied and socially compliant

Time to start exploring your taco truck options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647202)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:27 PM
Author: ..;..,...;..,.,..;..,,;;.,.,.,.,..;.,.,.;.

thank god i got bigfed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647203)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: OSIRIS (ggtp)

this is no big deal at all. everyone submits their time late. submitting time is annoying as fuck bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943671&forum_id=2#20647220)