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Date: May 9th, 2012 10:50 AM
oh wait, it's a "top 25" law school.
Law School Plans to Offer Web Courses for Master’s
By TAMAR LEWIN
Published: May 8, 2012
The law school of Washington University announced Tuesday that it would offer, entirely online, a master’s degree in United States law intended for lawyers practicing overseas, in partnership with 2tor, an education technology company.
Kent D. Syverud, the dean of the Washington University School of Law, said he hoped to enroll more than 100 students a year in the online program.
Legal education has been slow to move to online classes, and the new master’s program is perhaps the earliest partnership between a top-tier law school and a commercial enterprise.
“We don’t know where the students are going to come from exactly, but we believe there is demand abroad for an online program with the same quality that we deliver in St. Louis, accessible to people who can’t uproot their lives to come to the United States,” said Kent D. Syverud, the dean of the law school, which currently offers students on campus a Master of Law degree, or LL.M., in United States law for foreign lawyers. “It’s not designed to prepare students for the bar exam.”
Nonetheless, graduates of the new program, which will include live discussions via webcam and self-paced online materials, would probably be eligible to take the California bar exam.
Washington University will share the revenues from the $48,000 program — the same tuition paid by students at the St. Louis campus — with 2tor, which will provide marketing, the Web platform and technical support, including a staff member to monitor each live class and deal with any technical problems that arise.
2tor, a four-year-old company based in Maryland, has partnerships in place with the University of Southern California, Georgetown and the University of North Carolina for online graduate degree programs in education, business, public administration and nursing.
Largely because of American Bar Association rules, however — under which approved law schools may not count more than 12 credits of distance education toward a Juris Doctor degree — legal education has been slow to shift to online classes. Students who earn a J.D. from a bar association-approved law school are automatically eligible to take the bar exam nationwide.
But beyond that, each state sets its rules on who can take the bar exam. California, for example, is the only state that allows graduates of Concord Law School — which is not approved by the bar association, but offers a fully online Juris Doctor — to take its bar exam.
The bar association does not approve master’s programs, beyond certifying that a new one at an approved law school will not detract from the J.D. program.
About a dozen states allow some Master of Law holders to qualify for the bar exam, but in New York, those with master’s degrees are not eligible if they earned the degree online.
“It’s hard to make a definitive statement before a candidate applies, but California allows LL.M. students and online students to take the exam, and our program will meet their course requirements, so it should be a possibility,” said Tomea Mersmann, the associate dean for strategic initiatives at Washington University School of Law.
Gayle Murphy, senior executive of the California committee of bar examiners, confirmed that under the current guidelines, those with an online master’s from a bar association-approved law school could be eligible. But with the advent of online degrees, she said, those guidelines might be revisited.
A growing number of law schools offer online master’s degrees in specialized areas of law, like taxation, health care, estate planning, the environment or business transactions. Florida Coastal School of Law, a commercial school, offers a master’s in United States law, created, like the Washington University program, for international lawyers.
New York University Law School’s online Executive LL.M in Tax program enrolls more than 100 students, mostly from the United States, with a smattering from other countries.
“Online students can see videos of all the brick-and-mortar classes,” said Joshua D. Blank, faculty director of the graduate tax program, which has been available online since 2008. “We use the same technology Netflix uses to watch movies online. Now that there’s the technology to do this, I think there’s a lot of room for these programs to grow.”
But so far, law schools offer nothing like the online computer-engineering classes at Stanford or the Massachusetts Institute of Technology that draw thousands of students.
Washington University is not aspiring to that scale. Classes will be kept small and, Mr. Syverud said, will re-create the discussion between students and professors that characterizes most in-person legal education. Mr. Syverud said he hoped to enroll 20 students in the first group, starting in January, and have four groups a year, totaling more than 100 students.
Date: May 9th, 2012 10:54 AM
it looks like it's mostly aimed at stupid foreigners. I'm all for colleges trying to rip them off.
Date: May 9th, 2012 11:29 AM
i would if tuition dropped for american students. but it looks like this is just a bonus for administrators and profs and will end up devaluing the WUSTL degree in the long-term.
i bet they can get a bunch of home-grown suckers to fork over federal loan money too. they don't really care where it comes from.
Date: May 9th, 2012 11:32 AM
wayne state club will not stand for this insolence
Date: May 9th, 2012 11:05 AM
Author: ,..,,.:....,,;,,,.,..:..,:......,;,,;,....,...:.. (poomo)
holy shit how do they live with themselves?
Date: May 9th, 2012 11:07 AM
Author: Mance Gaydar (Greetings)
lol California legal ranks about to experience FOBBY DELUGE in a couple years