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I know 20 year old guys making 120k as electricians

Going to college and law school was a serious, serious mista...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
Me too. TBF it's their business ability. If they had that bu...
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
I'm talking about guys who work for large electrical firms o...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
wtf?
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
Sales is handled by a sales department. These guys are just ...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
But getting one of those jobs would be like getting Biglaw, ...
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
brother stick to flame; this is ignoble
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
explain. I know many electricians and none get one of those ...
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
that's better
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
There ya go. . .
Idris Elba  10/26/12
No.
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
But yeah maybe you would have to beat out a few of the other...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
LOL yeah. Academic intelligence has a lot to do with becomin...
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
General intelligence is definitely useful in skilled trades....
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
LOL the people that land these jobs probably rewired their f...
Benvolio Jackson  05/12/12
ugh. get your shit together man, we expect more out you
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
No, 120.
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Cr
" " " "  10/26/12
guys at my high school, etc
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,  05/12/12
That meme is for things that don't happen. At 50/hr, these g...
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lolololololol
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
What the fuck are you loling about?
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...
" " " "  05/12/12
should have copped dat stem brother
,.,...,..,.,.,:,;,...,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
my cousin is a welder. got to journeyman level in two years ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
welding is a tough skill to master
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,  05/12/12
yeah, if you're a retard prole. his parents are upper middle...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
have you ever done tig/mig welding? shits tough. it require...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,  05/12/12
Also, you can make bank welding in particular areas that are...
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong  05/12/12
yeah for sure. i know in at least the case of underwater wel...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
It sounds pretty cool to me. And it sounds like you are just...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
guarantee that is not the case. you have to breathe mixed ga...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
why do you keep saying "mixed" gases like it's a b...
Abbot Saxtus  05/12/12
you don't breath a normal combination when you're at depth, ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/16/12
i lol'd at this classic law student vs. ude who actually kno...
..,.,...;;..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..,.,.  10/26/12
n, but i don't doubt it's difficult. fact remains, it's not ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
cr, this dude is more like an artist than a laborer. The ski...
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong  05/12/12
I can stack dimes with a TIG like a pro but it would be mise...
Drunkard  05/17/12
take a look at my cousin, bro
..,.,;..;...;:..;.,...;..,..:.,....  10/26/12
AND they probably pay A LOT less in taxes than you would if ...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
radical flame. my friend also started out at $125K as a carp...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
huh? what are you saying?
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
thanks for confirming your shitty flame
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
what part is flame? my buddy didn't make $125k as a brand n...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
"My buddy and I both made $125k when we started out&quo...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
that is exactly what I make in base. I'm a 7th year. All 7...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
So what? 125k is pretty damn good. Plus there is at least 7 ...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
dude, I agree. was just playing devils advocate. he did j...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
(law student pretending to be a lawyer and seriously investe...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
I'm pretty well established on this board as a senior associ...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
Oh fuck, bow down.
.,.,...,..,.,.:,,:,...,:::,..,.:,,,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
No, but I don't like being called a liar
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
do people really believe these threads? an electrician ch...
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
why wouldn't a private electrician make what he charges? ma...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  05/12/12
Yeah, but the cost of equipment and other shit. As a sole pr...
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong  05/12/12
um, you have to pay your own payroll tax and shit when you'r...
bill engvall  05/12/12
yeah, man, those SP taxes are MURDER. you clearly really hav...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
I just talked to a person about this the other day. They are...
...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,  05/12/12
lolol
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
And the majority of these types are having sex with better l...
originalwhokebe  05/12/12
highly true. trade labor bros get a direct pipeline to the C...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
(guy who spends literally hours a day as a grown man thinkin...
bill engvall  05/12/12
Is there a such thing as a straight grown man who doesn't sp...
originalwhokebe  05/12/12
yeah, definitely man. i have something to say about it, thus...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
yfwgi
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Nope. I know both electricians and people in the offices (sa...
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a 20 year old goober doesnt pull this take home absolute fl...
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(middle class poli sci nerd who has no exposure to skilled l...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
d00ds i know who do this stuff are not rich
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http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Construction-and-Extraction/Electrici...
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
you mean like the top 20% of the legal industry? oh yeah, fu...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.  05/12/12
Incorrect
originalwhokebe  05/12/12
Yes, they do.
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Most electricians learn their trade in a 4-year apprenticesh...
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
The median annual wage of electricians was $48,250 in May 20...
Shufflepuck Cafe  05/12/12
quit fighting the flame bro
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,  05/12/12
My cousin WONG is an investment plumber who pulls down 200 G...
CHUNG+  05/12/12
lol, woefully underrated
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Father is a union electrician. He was still an apprentice at...
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(anecdotal evidence master man) seriously though, $120K i...
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Here's some proof regarding "prevailing rates," wh...
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Lulz at all the law school fags getting pissed while reading...
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News flash You can make a lot of money doing lots of othe...
.,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,,...,;:,.,.:.:.,:.::,..  05/12/12
Only start at 90K as a 19 year old police officer: http://w...
Kraftwerk  05/12/12
WTF? Are you shitting me?
Razor Ramon  05/17/12
Lol. Very sustainable.
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Thomas Friedman riding a Segway through Bangalore  10/26/12
shit's true bro, but usually you need to have a father who's...
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did u think u were after truth or something its funny that ...
burnished shithead  05/12/12
u: here a lot because ur unfulfilled intellectually and soci...
.,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,  05/12/12
i'm not really normal though, i got stuff on top of that gen...
burnished shithead  05/12/12
yea you'd feel that way but in fact high stress high hours w...
..,,,,,,,,,,....  05/16/12
No. I know many electricians and welders in top market un...
FedDude  05/12/12
Yeah exactly...hanging out daily with the average unionized ...
rhodium1234  05/16/12
For fuck's sake, all "trades" took a massive bath ...
rhodium1234  05/16/12
"I know 20 year old guys making 120k as electricians&qu...
<('o'<)~~  05/16/12
I know a an electrician like that. Bought his first house wi...
self-satisfied and socially compliant  05/16/12
My bro was 20 and without finishing his degree was making 6 ...
''""'''"  05/22/12
don't forget they get to write shit off if they own their ow...
Thread  05/22/12
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In a lifetime, i'll make more than the in demand electrician...
Walker, Texas Ranger  05/30/12
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Thread  10/26/12
The people I know who took corporate america jobs out of col...
Thomas Friedman riding a Segway through Bangalore  10/26/12


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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:17 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Going to college and law school was a serious, serious mistake. But at the time, how the fuck could I know? Everyone looks down their nose at options like this and would have looked at me like I had two fucking heads if, as a smart guy, I decided to be an electrician. "What, of course that's not what you should do, you should go to college because your smart and follow your dreams and become a millionaire president."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675838)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

Me too. TBF it's their business ability. If they had that business ability with a law degree, they can probably make more.

A close family member makes absolute bank with his own electrical contracting business but he's the type of guy who walks in the room and everyone likes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675850)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

I'm talking about guys who work for large electrical firms on commercial projects. They don't bring in business, they just know a skilled trade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675855)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675863)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:24 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Sales is handled by a sales department. These guys are just electricians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675876)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:24 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

But getting one of those jobs would be like getting Biglaw, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675881)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:35 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

brother stick to flame; this is ignoble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675961)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:36 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

explain. I know many electricians and none get one of those gigs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675970)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:38 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

that's better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675981)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 10:52 AM
Author: Idris Elba (Mitt shouting "NAW NAW NAW... NOT GOD 'BLESS' AMERICA")

There ya go. . .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890536)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:36 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675968)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:47 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

But yeah maybe you would have to beat out a few of the other BRILLIANT folks in the skilled trades. I'm sure that would be very hard for someone anywhere near average social and physical abilities who is also smart enough to go to a top 10 law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676018)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:48 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

LOL yeah. Academic intelligence has a lot to do with becoming an electrician.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676024)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

General intelligence is definitely useful in skilled trades. It makes you a little bit quicker, more efficient, more shrewd, etc than your competition. And when it comes to edging out the competition, all you have to be is a little better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676041)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:52 PM
Author: Benvolio Jackson

LOL the people that land these jobs probably rewired their fisherprice jeep when they were 7. General intelligence? Just like there's book smart, like a lot of aspies here claim to be, there are people who were born to be electricians. LOL at learning that from a STEM degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676056)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:55 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

ugh. get your shit together man, we expect more out you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676076)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:00 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

No, 120.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676117)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:22 AM
Author: " " " "

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890661)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:17 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

guys at my high school, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675841)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

That meme is for things that don't happen. At 50/hr, these guys work 45-50 hour weeks and pull down ~120k. Anything involving federal funds requires this rate. Other projects may pay a little bit less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675852)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:26 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

lolololololol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675892)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:36 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

What the fuck are you loling about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675971)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:17 PM
Author: " " " "



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675842)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,;,...,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.

should have copped dat stem brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675851)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

my cousin is a welder. got to journeyman level in two years - splits his time between a private shop and a public agency contract. has no real boss, never has to deal with e-mail or shit at home, never EVER works on a weekend.

makes $90K as a 23 year old in a cheap but nice city. works 35 hours a week and fucks hot chicks because he has a sweet house, nice ride, boat, cash to blow, free time, and laidback attitude.

LOFL at me for going to law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675860)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

welding is a tough skill to master

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675868)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:26 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

yeah, if you're a retard prole. his parents are upper middle-class and he's normal intelligence -- just fucking killing it with no stress in the blue collar skilled labor world. i've discussed it with him, and if you're not struggling with a prescription opiate addiction, multiple divorces, or a rippie ticket deficit, you're truly looked at as the epitome of healthy living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675895)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

have you ever done tig/mig welding? shits tough. it requires incredible hand-eye coordination.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675914)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong (Try talking trash and I'll come with my Smith & Wesson)

Also, you can make bank welding in particular areas that are considered more difficult - for example underwater, nuclear plants, chemical facilities, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675939)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:41 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

yeah for sure. i know in at least the case of underwater welding, those bros are being compensated for eventual health effects and overall horror of that job. breathing mixed gasses under intense stress in a destitute environment is probably a wash in terms of cash/lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675994)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:48 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

It sounds pretty cool to me. And it sounds like you are just making up things about breathing gases, health effects, and "horror"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676026)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:53 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

guarantee that is not the case. you have to breathe mixed gases at serious depth, which being more difficult and taxing, is where these guys are the most highly paid.

imagine a freezing cold, pitch black, electronically managed environment where one fuckup could lead to a painful, dark death. deep pressure welding is fucking terrible for you and terrifying. those pros get paid up the nose by oil companies because it's an unsustainable career. you would probably be shaken to the core by one trip down a platform - not that you would be able to do it in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676066)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 7:16 PM
Author: Abbot Saxtus (mr)

why do you keep saying "mixed" gases like it's a bad thing. you're not breathing pure oxygen right now bro. it's mixed.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20678417)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

you don't breath a normal combination when you're at depth, dipshit:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lpt/mixhistory.htm

sorry google doesn't work on your computer - 'mixed gases' is the common industry term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705259)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: ..,.,...;;..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..,.,.

i lol'd at this classic law student vs. ude who actually knows shit exchange. thanks for bringing me back guise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890822)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:38 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

n, but i don't doubt it's difficult. fact remains, it's not something that's out of reach for the ordinary person -- just requires some work and time to learn. from my cousin's description, it's like learning to play an instrument. even with aptitude, you can pick up the nuance and become functional with reasonable effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675980)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong (Try talking trash and I'll come with my Smith & Wesson)

cr, this dude is more like an artist than a laborer. The skills required to make bank as a welder are uncommon and this dude is at the top of his field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675920)



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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:35 AM
Author: Drunkard (Rolleys that don't tick tock.)

I can stack dimes with a TIG like a pro but it would be miserable to do for 8 hours a day. I can barely do a weekend without hating life and, at the end of the day, a prefer just doing it with the little MIG I have unless it is suspension related.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20708646)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:35 AM
Author: ..,.,;..;...;:..;.,...;..,..:.,....

take a look at my cousin, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890708)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:25 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

AND they probably pay A LOT less in taxes than you would if you made the same.

On other hand, they probably won't make much more than that.

My buddy and I both made $125k when we started out, me in biglaw and him as a carpenter. Now I make $265k + bonus and he makes the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675888)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:29 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

radical flame. my friend also started out at $125K as a carpenter. best of luck dropping your v-card.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675910)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:31 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

huh? what are you saying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675923)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:32 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

thanks for confirming your shitty flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675926)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

what part is flame? my buddy didn't make $125k as a brand new carpenter, but was very skilled and spent the time I spent in LS and working before LS honing his craft and gaining clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675936)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:43 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

"My buddy and I both made $125k when we started out"

also love the $265K bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676000)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:12 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

that is exactly what I make in base. I'm a 7th year. All 7th years make the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677439)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:35 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

So what? 125k is pretty damn good. Plus there is at least 7 extra years of earning right from the start, and huge debt and interest that eats up your extra earnings. And one of the biggest things is that you had to go through all kinds of stress and mental effort whereas the electrician does something relatively easy on the mind and much more relaxing and enjoyable. Also, do you feel like you are set for life yet in terms of job security or you could still fall off the train at any moment? I've started in midlaw and don't feel secure at all. At the very least, you'll probably take a huge pay cut some time soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675966)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:38 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

dude, I agree. was just playing devils advocate.

he did just cut the crap out of his hand when his glove got stuck in a band saw...and couldn't work for 3 months. it was pretty disgusting. that is one pro of desk jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675978)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:56 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

(law student pretending to be a lawyer and seriously invested in the idea that biglaw will make him rich and attractive)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676088)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

I'm pretty well established on this board as a senior associate in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676154)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:11 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.:,,:,...,:::,..,.:,,,.:..:.,:.::,.

Oh fuck, bow down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676157)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:16 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

No, but I don't like being called a liar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676171)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:28 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

do people really believe these threads?

an electrician charging $50/hour isn't making $50/hour. I was billed out at $125/hour as a paralegal and billed 1800 hours. LOL at me making $225000

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Construction-and-Extraction/Electricians.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675904)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:32 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

why wouldn't a private electrician make what he charges? many electricians are sole proprietors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675928)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong (Try talking trash and I'll come with my Smith & Wesson)

Yeah, but the cost of equipment and other shit. As a sole proprietor you might be charging $50/hr but you won't be seeing half of that in your bank account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675952)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:36 PM
Author: bill engvall

um, you have to pay your own payroll tax and shit when you're self employed. it's a good chunk of change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675967)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

yeah, man, those SP taxes are MURDER. you clearly really have a handle on business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676005)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:40 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

I just talked to a person about this the other day. They are not being billed at 50/hr, they are MAKING 50/hr. This is for large commercial projects that involve federal funding (which is seemingly most these days). They make less on some projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675988)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:47 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

lolol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676017)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: originalwhokebe

And the majority of these types are having sex with better looking women than you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675915)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

highly true. trade labor bros get a direct pipeline to the CGWBT market. shrews are rightfully detested and rare in their world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675946)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:36 PM
Author: bill engvall

(guy who spends literally hours a day as a grown man thinking of dumb topics like this)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675972)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:39 PM
Author: originalwhokebe

Is there a such thing as a straight grown man who doesn't spend all day thinking about this stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675986)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

yeah, definitely man. i have something to say about it, thus i spend hours a day thinking about it. do you feel better now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676011)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:41 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675995)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:43 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Nope. I know both electricians and people in the offices (sales/hr etc) of these firms who have told me this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20675998)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,

a 20 year old goober doesnt pull this take home

absolute flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676006)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:47 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

(middle class poli sci nerd who has no exposure to skilled labor and trade professions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676021)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:48 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,

d00ds i know who do this stuff are not rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676023)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Construction-and-Extraction/Electricians.htm

link to single job listing where the take home is double the median?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676042)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:02 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

you mean like the top 20% of the legal industry? oh yeah, fuck, sorry man, the upper ranks are like 20X the median.

point is, the average from some shitty website is not an accurate snapshot of the profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676126)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:49 PM
Author: originalwhokebe

Incorrect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676034)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Yes, they do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676050)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:52 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

Most electricians learn their trade in a 4-year apprenticeship. For each year of the program, apprentices must complete at least 144 hours of technical training and 2,000 hours of paid on-the-job training. In the classroom, apprentices learn electrical theory, blueprint reading, mathematics, electrical code requirements, and safety and first-aid practices. They also may receive specialized training related to soldering, communications, fire alarm systems, and elevators. Because of this comprehensive training, those who complete apprenticeship programs qualify to do both construction and maintenance work.

After completing an apprenticeship program, electricians are considered to be journey workers and may perform duties on their own.

Several groups, including unions and contractor associations, sponsor apprenticeship programs. The basic qualifications to enter an apprenticeship program are as follows:

Minimum age of 18

High school education or equivalent

One year of algebra

Qualifying score on an aptitude test

Drug free

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Construction-and-Extraction/Electricians.htm#tab-4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676060)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:53 PM
Author: Shufflepuck Cafe

The median annual wage of electricians was $48,250 in May 2010. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $29,400, and the top 10 percent earned more than $80,890.

The starting pay for apprentices usually is between 30 percent and 50 percent of what fully trained electricians make, receiving pay increases as they gain more skill.

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Construction-and-Extraction/Electricians.htm#tab-5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676063)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,

quit fighting the flame bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676096)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: CHUNG+

My cousin WONG is an investment plumber who pulls down 200 G's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676039)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,;,...,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.

lol, woefully underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676757)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:55 PM
Author: ::::;:::::::;;;;;;:::::;;;;:::;:

Father is a union electrician. He was still an apprentice at 20 and only made like 20/hr. Still good w/o a college education. He had periods of time in my childhood where he was out of work for 6 months-year. Only when I went to college did he find a stable job as an electrician that paid 100K+ and that was through pure luck.

If not flame, 120k/yr at 20 is not typical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676084)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,;,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

(anecdotal evidence master man)

seriously though, $120K is obviously not realistic for anything but a master electrician. fact remains, blue collar skilled labor fucking pwns when you consider the barriers to entry and lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676112)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 12:59 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,

Here's some proof regarding "prevailing rates," which is what unions always get and what any project involving federal funding must pay according to federal law.

http://www.nycsca.org/Business/WorkingWithTheSCA/LaborLawCompliance/PLADocs/Electricians-b.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676109)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:45 AM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890759)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 1:07 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.:,,:,...,:::,..,.:,,,.:..:.,:.::,.

Lulz at all the law school fags getting pissed while reading this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676142)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 3:30 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,,...,;:,.,.:.:.,:.::,..

News flash

You can make a lot of money doing lots of other things besides being a lawyer

How are people suprized at all about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20676787)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: Kraftwerk

Only start at 90K as a 19 year old police officer:

http://www.sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=1655

Of course you can retire at 50 with a 200k/year pension.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677600)



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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:41 AM
Author: Razor Ramon

WTF? Are you shitting me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20708688)



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Date: May 22nd, 2012 7:40 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

Lol. Very sustainable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20742888)



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Date: May 22nd, 2012 7:47 AM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20742893)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:43 AM
Author: Thomas Friedman riding a Segway through Bangalore



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890754)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:55 PM
Author: .....;;;.;;.;;;;.......;;.;;..

shit's true bro, but usually you need to have a father who's been in the business for years, and has a book of business built up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677762)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:06 PM
Author: burnished shithead (sw)

did u think u were after truth or something

its funny that we can say that now but if u didnt go to college and study hard and meet all those intellectuals and all that you would have regretted it

we can say easily you would have regretted it either way

its easy to romanticize that lifestyle and while socializing and working with proles can be fun, if u have a sharp mind you would start to feel trapped and like u weren't fulfilling your potential cause you wouldn't know any better

you just keep making those decisions trying to fix some fault and make it worse, go this way cause it feels right, o wait the other way was better. lost that girl, didnt date that girl, moved away from that place, conformed, didn't conform, blech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677857)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:09 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,

u: here a lot because ur unfulfilled intellectually and socially. u still went to college

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677881)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:26 PM
Author: burnished shithead (sw)

i'm not really normal though, i got stuff on top of that general case. had a lot of problems in college and only found way here afterwards cause of screwed up life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20678046)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 6:01 PM
Author: ..,,,,,,,,,,....

yea you'd feel that way but in fact high stress high hours white collar jobs blow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705359)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:08 PM
Author: FedDude

No.

I know many electricians and welders in top market unionized cities such as NYC.

You can do well, but you do not make that much. Not at all...

If you go out on your own, you can make $100+ easy being an electrician, plumber, whatever, but that's after years of working with blue collar, uneducated, shit heads and sticking your hands in nigger's toilets...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20677878)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 6:32 PM
Author: rhodium1234

Yeah exactly...hanging out daily with the average unionized Joe 6 Pack dipshit would get really old really fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705617)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 6:07 PM
Author: rhodium1234

For fuck's sake, all "trades" took a massive bath during the Great Recession. They're still depressed, for all intents and purposes - building has not resumed and many, many of these guys are out of jobs altogether. To act like any Joe 6 Pack can just waltz into these fields and make bank is absolutely fucking ridiculous. The majority of "trained" carpenters are still jobless at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705426)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: <('o'<)~~

"I know 20 year old guys making 120k as electricians"

Not ITE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705547)



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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: self-satisfied and socially compliant

I know a an electrician like that. Bought his first house with cash at 19.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20705859)



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Date: May 22nd, 2012 7:19 AM
Author: ''""'''"

My bro was 20 and without finishing his degree was making 6 figs in silicon valley. It happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20742872)



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Date: May 22nd, 2012 9:08 AM
Author: Thread

don't forget they get to write shit off if they own their own business. what can lawyers write-off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20742970)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20796647)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:54 PM
Author: Walker, Texas Ranger

In a lifetime, i'll make more than the in demand electrician. I work in the low 50 hour per week range typically, so its not bad. Plus I enjoy the work and have intellectual stimulation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#20796799)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 10:49 AM
Author: Thread

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890528)



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Date: October 26th, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: Thomas Friedman riding a Segway through Bangalore

The people I know who took corporate america jobs out of college and carved niches for themselves while aggressively applying for new jobs every year own the shit out of the kids who went to law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1946832&forum_id=2#21890722)