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Why don't American schools use the Oxford tutorial system?

Too expensive? Different educational philosophy?
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Because American undergrads are retarded
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At elite schools? I'm just surprised there aren't one or tw...
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I think one of the good LAC's has this Amherst or something...
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pls tell me what there is to gain from teaching intro microe...
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Idk Effective learning?
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consider how much more it costs to educate first year retard...
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It's probably their only selling point vs. top American scho...
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maybe, but it's a total waste of money. they're not real...
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u: insecure ttt alum
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i can't resist the bait fairly prestigious ug, but still ...
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the only baiting itt is u masturbating, faggot. pwned!!!!!~
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Swarthmore has it
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gtfo really? they're brochures always impressed me when i w...
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r i g o r
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My upper div classes were essentially 2-4 people tutorials/s...
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because it's a massive waste of money 4 on 1s for intro o...
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too many men touching boys
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One of the distinctive features of a Williams education is m...
" " '' ''  05/12/12
the english system emphasizes producing polished speakers. t...
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lol, not really. americans are the best extemporaneous s...
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no they are not
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nah, they are.
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nah faggot
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my university (not american) was stuffed full of yanks. they...
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u went to a ttt. if you were at oxford u'd have seen a mass ...
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lol prole, vast majority of oxford students are just average...
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u jelly, plus i didn't say they were smart, only that they'r...
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oh no, they are very smart but unremarkable in person
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watch sessions from the house of commons on cspan, then watc...
Bacon loving foodie thug w/ white vegan hipster gf  05/12/12
house of commons is pure comedy. they don't take that shit s...
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It's extremely easy to be sucked into the dominant culture. ...
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Ow do you like them apples.
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Chomsky graduated in 1897
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"in those days" HYP definitely have a long hi...
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Come on white people, take the plunge, send your kids to whe...
Turn her into a pleasure machine  05/12/12
lol wtf
bill engvall  05/12/12
*reads Wikipedia article on cambridge* *explains what's w...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  05/12/12
lulz i had no fucking clue wtf it was
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I saw videos on YouTube.
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don't american universities have recitations?
musclecock  05/12/12


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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: ............,...............,.....,.;;;;;;....

Too expensive? Different educational philosophy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677577)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::.,.

Because American undergrads are retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677583)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:30 PM
Author: ............,...............,.....,.;;;;;;....

At elite schools? I'm just surprised there aren't one or two schools that would offer this model.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677597)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::.,.

I think one of the good LAC's has this

Amherst or something

maybe Williams, maybe Swarthmore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677613)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

pls tell me what there is to gain from teaching intro microeconomics 1 on 1?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677620)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::.,.

Idk

Effective learning?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677629)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:36 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

consider how much more it costs to educate first year retards in small groups

it's just a huge money drain for oxbridge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677640)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::.,.

It's probably their only selling point vs. top American schools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677663)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

maybe, but it's a total waste of money.

they're not really competing with HYP for undergrads anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677676)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,

u: insecure ttt alum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677709)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

i can't resist the bait

fairly prestigious ug, but still kind of mad about my oxford rejection

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677719)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,

the only baiting itt is u masturbating, faggot. pwned!!!!!~

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677736)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:53 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677744)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,..,:,,:,..;,:::,..,.,:,.,:....:.,:.::,

Swarthmore has it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677623)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:51 PM
Author: .....;;;.;;.;;;;.......;;.;;..

gtfo really? they're brochures always impressed me when i was looking at colleges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677729)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:59 PM
Author: " " '' ''

r i g o r

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677795)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,..,:,,:,..;,:::,..,.,:,.,:....:.,:.::,

My upper div classes were essentially 2-4 people tutorials/seminars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677599)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

because it's a massive waste of money

4 on 1s for intro or even intermediate courses - what's the point?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677601)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: ,;.;,.;.,;.,;.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.,;.,;.,;.,.;.,;.;,

too many men touching boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677607)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM
Author: " " '' ''

One of the distinctive features of a Williams education is modeled after the tutorial systems at both, Oxford and Cambridge Universities; which is rare in American higher education. Although tutorials at Williams were originally aimed at upperclassmen, the faculty voted in 2001 to expand the tutorial program.[35] There is now a diverse offering of tutorials, spanning many disciplines, including math and the sciences, that cater to students of all class years. In 2009-2010 alone, 62 tutorials are offered in 21 departments.[36] Enrollment for tutorials is capped at 10 students, who are then divided into five pairs that meet separately with the professor once a week. Each week, one of the students writes and presents a 5-7 page paper while the other student critiques it. The same pair reverses roles for the next week. The professor takes a more limited role than in a traditional lecture class, and usually allows students to steer and guide the direction of the conversation.

Student course evaluations for tutorials are typically very high. In a survey of alumni who had taken tutorials, more than 80% found their tutorials to be "the most valuable of my courses" at Williams.[37]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677618)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

the english system emphasizes producing polished speakers. the tutorials are like pressure-cooker rap sessions, that teach kids how to talk extemporaneously/eloquently, in that hyper-facile english way (like Christopher Hitchens, etc).

american system emphasizes treating everything according to the bureaucratic/business model. class/lectures are like powerpoint presentations. you acquire the "skills," the bundles of "info," and you continue to speak like a rube, because we don't do eloquence (we are too "populist").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677631)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:37 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

lol, not really.

americans are the best extemporaneous speakers/bullshiters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677642)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

no they are not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677735)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:53 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

nah, they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677747)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:56 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

nah faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677769)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:03 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

my university (not american) was stuffed full of yanks. they can talk shit like no one else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677832)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:05 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,

u went to a ttt. if you were at oxford u'd have seen a mass of public school faggots bred to talk in oxford union format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677853)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:08 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

lol prole, vast majority of oxford students are just average schmucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677875)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:10 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..,:,,:,..,,:::,;..,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,

u jelly, plus i didn't say they were smart, only that they're trained to speak a certain way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677908)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:17 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

oh no, they are very smart but unremarkable in person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677964)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:09 PM
Author: Bacon loving foodie thug w/ white vegan hipster gf

watch sessions from the house of commons on cspan, then watch sessions from the US senate. it's not even close. the british dudes are debating and making arguments on the fly while the americans sound retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677884)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:10 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'.... ( )

house of commons is pure comedy. they don't take that shit seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677905)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:37 PM
Author: " " '' ''

It's extremely easy to be sucked into the dominant culture. It's very appealing. And the people don't look like bad people. You don't want to sit there and insult them. You try to be friends, and you are. You begin to conform, to adapt, to smooth off the harsher edges. Education at a place like Harvard is in fact largely geared to that, to a remarkable extent. I was a graduate student there. There was an organization called the Society of Fellows, which is a research outfit that selects a couple of people from all fields over the year. It was a remarkable opportunity to work. You had all the facilities of Harvard available and basically no responsibilities. Your only responsibilities were to show up for a dinner every Monday night which was sort of modelled on the Oxford-Cambridge high table. You spent the evening at the dinner with a couple of senior faculty members and other distinguished people. The purpose of that was basically socialization. You had to learn how to drink port and how to have polite conversations without talking about serious topics, but of course indicating that you could talk about serious topics if you were so vulgar as to actually do it. There's a whole set of mannerisms. In those days you had to learn how to wear British clothes. That was the appropriate affectation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677645)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,..,:,,:,..;,:::,..,.,:,.,:....:.,:.::,

Ow do you like them apples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677674)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:01 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

Chomsky graduated in 1897

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677808)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:05 PM
Author: " " '' ''

"in those days"

HYP definitely have a long history of oxbridge envy. it's evolved a bit since then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677848)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:48 PM
Author: Turn her into a pleasure machine

Come on white people, take the plunge, send your kids to where they're the minority. Because what the article misses is that those all white schools are actually the real lie. Those all white or majority white schools ill-prepare those kids for the reality that most of the world isn't white. But our system likes to make them think that white is elite and white is normal, but that's just an illusion. Explore needs white kids and other "minorities" and white kids need explore. This whole black white thing needs to be gone yesterday, but unless people will get over differences in dancing, hair styles, and slang, and create better education that reflects reality, the US will continue to slip away from the egalitarian and diverse society it should be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677711)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:45 PM
Author: bill engvall

lol wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678212)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

*reads Wikipedia article on cambridge*

*explains what's wrong with American colleges*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677713)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:59 PM
Author: .....;;;.;;.;;;;.......;;.;;..

lulz i had no fucking clue wtf it was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677787)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 7:24 PM
Author: ............,...............,.....,.;;;;;;....

I saw videos on YouTube.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678486)



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Date: May 12th, 2012 7:27 PM
Author: musclecock

don't american universities have recitations?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678515)