How far will the stock market pull back this SUMMER?
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:09 PM Author: AZNgirl refusing to hit the cue ball
I think SP will go down to 1250.
Fuck my life. I bought AAPL at like 585, 8k in.
Fucking lost a shitload in my IRA in emerging markets. 3k down in last month or so just.
Other shit I am just sold off and waiting patiently to get back in. Fuck my life.
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:25 PM Author: AZNgirl refusing to hit the cue ball
honestly, i have no faith that in 50 years the market will be all that much higher.. i think it could just average 3% gains and in between u will have MASSIVE ups and MASSIVE downs.. it is just a binge
im so fuckin dumbf or buying AAPL.. i SOLD everything over 100k in risky shit and took profits in march... but i bought AAPL one day.. just woke up at bought it at 629 for some reason adn have been buying it down ever since FML
and then the emerging market shit i just figured id hold cause whatever.. its in my IRA.. but i have 20k and its down a SHITLOAD.. emerging market ETFS have sucked for a while.. shit
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:23 PM Author: Nathan Drake
Just be a buy and hold investor, bro.
Who cares what the market will do in the next few months when you'll have 8+% annualized returns over a 30 year period?
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:31 PM Author: Nathan Drake
LOL just LOL @ that investment prole logic. 8% is probably a rather conservative return.
But yeah, today is TOTALLY different...
Back in 1979 there was a huge article on businessweek titled "The Death of Equities" and stocks had basically stayed flat for over a decade. Subsequent decades (80s and 90s) experienced double digit annualized gains.
Here we are today, stocks have been flat for over a decade, people are saying "bubububu this time is different, stocks are done for", yet the delta between the earnings yield relative to the treasury yield is some of the highest it's ever been since the 1950s, which also experience another bull market in the following 15 years.
The markets ALWAYS climb a wall of worry. There's ALWAYS something bad happening or hanging over the market's head.
Who gives a shit, stocks are the best investment for the long haul and if you're globally diversified you will have great returns over most people's investment horizon.
This is probably the best fucking time to invest since the late 1970s. If you're in your twenties and not loading your portfolio with stocks and holding onto them for 30+ years you're a dumb faggot that shouldn't be in the market to begin with.
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: Nathan Drake
It has ALWAYS BEEN UP AND DOWN.
STOCKS ARE VOLATILE AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VOLATILE. It's not uncommon for stocks to lose 50% of their value in any given year, or double their returns over a span of a few years for that matter. Nothing whatsoever has changed about the risk characteristics of stocks. In the short term, they are risky. But I don't give a shit about tomorrow, I give a shit about 30 years from now. And barring some catastrophic event, billions of chinese and indians entering the middle class and embracing some form of consumerism will be good for the global economy, good for business, and good for my investment returns.
Hedge Funds and high velocity trading are just newfangled market participants. It doesn't matter at all.
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:58 PM Author: bill engvall
or the 60s
or the 30s
or the 20s
or the 1890s
etc
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:45 PM Author: Nathan Drake
Not there yet. Cumulative returns including dividends has been roughly matching inflation at the peak during the tech boom.
Regardless, if cumulative returns are 0% over the twenty year time period, valuations for stocks will be a scorching value.
Now is the time to load up. If you don't, you're a fool and are falling victim to boomer market timing. Don't be an idiot fucking boomer that doesn't know how to win at the stock market game.
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:52 PM Author: Nathan Drake
OH MY GOD, THE MARKET HIT AN ALL TIME HIGH ON NOV 21, 1980 (price: 139). TIME TO SELL!
Fast forward 30 years later, price is 10x that.
LOL, just LOL @ your market timing, knee-jerk, short minded investment advice
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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:00 AM Author: Nathan Drake
1930s
1940s
OMG THOSE WERE SUCH STABLE DECADES
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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:00 AM Author: bill engvall
do you seem to remember a rather large complete implosion of the economy which occurred in the late 20s and lasted until WWII?
in the 1800s markets were wild as fuck as well
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950391&forum_id=2#20708309)
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