there are people at my firm on track to bill 1300
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Date: May 30th, 2012 2:59 PM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
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Date: May 30th, 2012 3:01 PM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
including me
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20793311) |

Date: May 30th, 2012 3:32 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
I will probably bill less than 1000 as a 1st year. How fuct?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20793463) |
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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:13 PM Author: Please don't out me
Two problems w/ this:
1) Are most firms really going to fire first year if hours are low due to macro reasons (i.e., not b/c no one wants to work with person)?
2) Are any firms really interested in hiring 1st years?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20795297) |

Date: May 30th, 2012 6:09 PM Author: nutella
dude, time to start looking.
i've been applying to the (few) lit in-house positions that exist and the screening intv rate has been 100% thus far (3 listings all through their career websites, 3 screenings). i'm in round 2 of 4 in one of them.
i'm starting to think it's possible to get out of the billable hellhole structure even as a shitigator.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20794470) |
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Date: May 30th, 2012 6:14 PM Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,
Can I ask a serious non outing non dick question re how all he stuff went down at your old firm?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20794495) |
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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:21 PM Author: ..............,,,,,,,...,.,.,.,.,.
dewey & lebankrupt.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20795353) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:46 AM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
i have been. i have an offer for appellate lit but it is in Palo Alto. partners here told me if i bill 1500 not to worry, i won't get cut this cycle.
how are you finding these openings? just going to company's career websites? i doubt i interview as well as you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20797269) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 11:53 AM Author: nutella
yeah, company websites for the most part of places i want to work at in bay area and LA and there are also sites like the Association for Corporate Counsel that aggregate listings.
i have job offers for big and mid-law firms but i think i'm going try my best to hold out for in-house if i can. realistically i don't want to work for anymore than another year at a firm and i don't see the point of having more of the same on my resume at this point in my career.
if you see yourself gunning for partnership at the appellate place, then go for it, but if this is just another place to hide for 1-2 years, i don't see why not just ride things out at the current place and figure out your real next step. if you go to a new place, you're going to have to start over and make nice with everyone again. i also think it looks a bit unfocused to have 3 firms on your resume and it'll be harder to explain the third jump at this juncture in your career if your ultimate goal is in-house/govt/something other than firm. also appellate lit is a niche area that isn't marketable outside lit. i have the same issue re 3 firms were i to accept another firm job and the answer that "only firms wanna hire me" isn't a good one.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20799211) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:12 PM Author: ,,,,,,...,,,,.,.,.,.
Tips for getting in-house as a gen litigator?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20799700) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:26 PM Author: nutella
no tips other than to have the requisite background (biglaw + good law school) and wait for the proper listings to show up.
i apply through the company's website so i don't have any inside connections or anything (other than one company where i have friends who work there).
i guess one thing you can do is to tailor your resume to the type of position it is. for instance, for entertainment jobs, i highlight my entertainment-related experience. for software/internet companies, i highlight my soft IP experience. it also helps to have multiple writing samples so you can use a different one for each particular field.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20799776) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:42 AM Author: ,..,.;.,.,;.,;..,,;.,.;..;,.,;,.;.;.;,,;,;.,,;
what kind of comp are you looking at in-house as lit?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20828379) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 5:25 PM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
well i dont want to gun for partner but the other firm gives me more years of biglaw $ then billing 1500 here. and what if i form babby? it seems really short sighted to just sit here at my current firm collecting paychecks cause that is the easy thing to do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20801049) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:40 AM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
this was the best advice re my job situation, wish i listened to it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20828376) |

Date: May 30th, 2012 8:38 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,....,,,..,.,.,.,...,..
On track for 2800 here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20795436) |
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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:21 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,...,.,.,.
Hopefully you're at one of the few firms that will compensate you accordingly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20796029) |
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Date: May 31st, 2012 6:30 PM Author: ,...,,.,.,,, , , .. ,,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,..,.,
I'll crack 1000 in another week or so, which should put me comfortably at the bare minimum
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20801368) |

Date: May 31st, 2012 6:29 PM Author: .,.,..,...,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.:
chances my firm lathams dozens of midlevel and senior associates?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959865&forum_id=2#20801363) |
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