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Solid CA Plaintiff side firms!

i know about bois, leif cabrazer....any other good ones?
Doggie Suicide*  06/16/12
altshuler
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boies isnt really a plaintiffs firm. lieff is. wherre on t...
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dude i hear terrible things about mofo. everyone who works t...
Doggie Suicide*  06/16/12
so you imagine prestigious lit boutiques or top plaintiff si...
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cr. those guys work their asses off for less pay. the peop...
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"People of color are particularly urged to apply."...
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Doggie Suicide*  06/16/12
i know it's very much the same thing, but from everything i'...
Doggie Suicide*  06/16/12
doubt it. it's gonna suck anywhere. i guarantee they have hi...
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what do partners usually get pissed about? people fuckign up...
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I work at a firm like this. The problem with most legal pra...
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i think i would also get much more annoyed being forced to c...
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EVERYTHING. i work for a "star" partner who finds ...
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llol what kind of typo?
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misspelled a party's name on caption page
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I'm spending the summer at a place like this. All the assoc...
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ENJOY quinn
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no
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no i figured i've just heard the infrastructure complaint ab...
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have you ever heard of a place where people are basically ha...
Doggie Suicide*  06/16/12
yup
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OUT THE FIRM breH
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it's not in cali, sorry
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that's kinda what i'm looking for i guess. do you work in CA...
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No.
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But I did interview with lieff last year. Seems like an int...
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did you get an offer? what kind of stats do you have?
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1 - how much did they offer? 2 - did you get a sense of b...
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LOl at that info ever being revealed, especially by an xo po...
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100ish to start. I was only applying for a summer position, ...
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do you have an idea about hours expectations?
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I was just told "much better than biglaw," but did...
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thanks for answering the questions man. what do you do/do yo...
Doggie Suicide*  06/17/12
I'm spending the summer at a lit boutique on the east coast....
...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,  06/17/12
This reminds me....anyone get possessive over cases? I don't...
'''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.  06/17/12
Susman Godfrey, which represents both sides of the aisle, ha...
CAlawyer  06/17/12
and is chill as fukk, if i understand it correctly
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Oh yeah. You can chill at 3,000 hours/year.
CAlawyer  06/17/12
does that place suck? are there any decent law firms to work...
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another is cohen millstein. how the fuck do these firms r...
,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,  06/17/12
Delude them about justice and helping the needy and things o...
...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,  06/17/12
in theory don't the best plaintiff's lawyers get the richest...
Doggie Suicide*  06/17/12
yes, there are like 4 of them, including this alpha breh: ...
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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:17 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

i know about bois, leif cabrazer....any other good ones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900101)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:21 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

altshuler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900144)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,

boies isnt really a plaintiffs firm. lieff is. wherre on the vault list would you put lieff? would you turn down mofo for lieff? what about latham or white & case? another firm is judge berzon's husbands firm.

do these guys take summers? what do they pay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900170)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

dude i hear terrible things about mofo. everyone who works there also looks like a huge nerd. even for law firm standards.

i don't want to do the standard big law thing. i hope for either a prestigious lit boutique or a top plaintiff side firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900201)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

so you imagine prestigious lit boutiques or top plaintiff side firms to be different from biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900298)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,

cr. those guys work their asses off for less pay. the people on the alshuler berzon site blow me away. all t-10 grads with killer clerkships. they could be raking it in at defense firms. i dont get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900326)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:49 PM
Author: '''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.

"People of color are particularly urged to apply."

http://altshulerberzon.com/recruit/recruit_attorneys

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900365)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900378)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

i know it's very much the same thing, but from everything i've heard people tend to be somewhat happier at those types of places. i could be wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900336)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:58 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

doubt it. it's gonna suck anywhere. i guarantee they have high attrition like everyone else. working lit at a high pressure firm just fucking sucks balls man, no matter what the advertising is. the nature of the work, the perfectionist, highly critical partners. it just fucking sucks dude. 90%+ run for the exits as soon as they can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900424)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

what do partners usually get pissed about? people fuckign up the law or typos or both?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900438)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: .;.;.......

I work at a firm like this. The problem with most legal practice is that there is no real right or wrong. Some people may think a line of questioning is stupid at a dep. Another person would think it could have been fruitful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900480)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

i think i would also get much more annoyed being forced to concoct sps legal arguments to press meritless claims than being forced to concoct sps arguments to defend against claims, meritless or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900499)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

EVERYTHING. i work for a "star" partner who finds something to criticize about almost every single thing that comes across his desk. he thinks this is his way of adding value. he will find the smallest tiny little things to nitpick. god forbid u actually fuck something up that isn't just stylistic. he will go ballistic. one time i had a single typo in like 5 briefs and he said to never, ever let it happen again. i am not joking about the "never, ever" language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900503)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

llol what kind of typo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900521)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

misspelled a party's name on caption page

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900525)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

I'm spending the summer at a place like this. All the associates tell me that they work very hard, but seem to have a lot of flexibility (everyone takes all their vacation days, frequently work from home, etc.). Cases are mostly staffed with 1 or 2 associates so they like the ownership, but obviously can get stressful, especially when they first started out.

Infrastructure sucks. Some bitch that they wish there was more organization and support. There is apparently one name partner who is a terror to work for and everyone hates, but the most of the other partners seem to be total sweethearts.

I tend to think that smaller offices are more humane for a number of reasons, but I may be wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900507)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

ENJOY quinn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900523)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900532)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:14 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

no i figured i've just heard the infrastructure complaint about quinn - have not, however, heard that people are basically happy there ha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900540)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

have you ever heard of a place where people are basically happy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900547)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900559)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:18 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

OUT THE FIRM breH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900566)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900577)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:22 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

it's not in cali, sorry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900590)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

that's kinda what i'm looking for i guess. do you work in CA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900528)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900534)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

But I did interview with lieff last year. Seems like an interesting place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900572)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:22 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

did you get an offer? what kind of stats do you have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900597)



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Date: June 16th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20900607)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,

1 - how much did they offer?

2 - did you get a sense of bonus structure?

3 - did they tell you what salary trajectory is? ie, wtf do their 3rd, 5th, 7th years make, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903116)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 2:57 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

LOl at that info ever being revealed, especially by an xo poster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903757)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:22 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

100ish to start. I was only applying for a summer position, so I didn't ask about (2) or (3).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903906)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 5:09 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

do you have an idea about hours expectations?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904486)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 8:47 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

I was just told "much better than biglaw," but didn't ask avg. number of hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20905950)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

thanks for answering the questions man. what do you do/do you like it now? glad you turned them down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20906248)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 9:32 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

I'm spending the summer at a lit boutique on the east coast. Not sure what I'm going to do on graduation. Hopefully I wont get no-offer-pwnt, but I might explore other options anyway. Not sure that working at a firm is for me.

I think Lieff is an interesting firm, and the people seemed great. I think someone upthread was also accurate - not having to bill by the hour probably leads to a better associate experience. With that said, I was worried that starting off plaintiff-side would be a career limiting move that I wasn't willing to make at that point. I think if you are interested in some of their core practices (esp antitrust or consumer protection) and are sure about being plaintiff side, it would be awesome to live in SF and work there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20906285)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 2:08 AM
Author: '''.....'''...'...'.'..'.'.'.'.'.

This reminds me....anyone get possessive over cases? I don't get this way if partners and more senior associates are on the case obviously but I hate sharin cases with junior associates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20901888)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 2:49 PM
Author: CAlawyer

Susman Godfrey, which represents both sides of the aisle, has a Los Angeles office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903725)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 2:52 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

and is chill as fukk, if i understand it correctly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903738)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 2:55 PM
Author: CAlawyer

Oh yeah. You can chill at 3,000 hours/year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20903751)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 5:10 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

does that place suck? are there any decent law firms to work at in LA other than munger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904499)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 4:22 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,

another is cohen millstein.

how the fuck do these firms recruit people that should be pulling down real $$ at sullcrom/boies/williams and conniolly level firms? i really dont get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904219)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 4:25 PM
Author: ...,,,...;;;...;.,.;.;.,.,

Delude them about justice and helping the needy and things of that nature, i'd imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904228)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 5:08 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

in theory don't the best plaintiff's lawyers get the richest?

edit: also less of a reason to assign billable make-work because you are on contingency?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904479)



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Date: June 17th, 2012 5:10 PM
Author: ....,,....,,.,.,,.,,....,..

yes, there are like 4 of them, including this alpha breh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Jamail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972281&forum_id=2#20904497)