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How do Reduce Costs in Healthcare System?

A common reptilian complaint directed against Obamacare is i...
slim_shady_man  06/21/12
The last year of life is where costs go nuts and the quality...
:D  06/21/12
so, death panels, right?
Talk to Your Kids About Niggers  06/21/12
Cr solution
NO_LIMIT_GINGER  06/21/12
...
,;.;,.;.,;.,;.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.,;.,;.,;.,.;.,;.;,  06/21/12
stop paying doctors and hospitals so much damn money for so ...
jonnyBlaze  06/21/12
Greetings, PCPs make WAY too much money for very little wor...
Mance Gaydar  06/21/12
Ding. PCPs are generally the ones who work the most for the...
jonnyBlaze  06/21/12
vis a vis specialty providers, pcps tend to accommodate high...
See Ex  06/21/12
Or like a plumber charging $375/hr. for snaking pipe on Sund...
See Ex  06/21/12
End fantasy of dollar one coverage. Encourage catastrophic ...
Dick Cake  06/21/12
unleash FREEDOM! and INNOVATION and CAPITALISM to SAVE all u...
AZNgirl honoring WWII vets who killed AZNmen  06/21/12
the state of georgia did that - it failed: http://www.for...
..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.  06/21/12
You didn't actually read that article did you?
Dick Cake  06/21/12
nix fats nix malpractice lawyers nix rent seeking medical ...
.,.,...,.,,,.,:.,:,...,:::,...,;.,..,:..:.,:,::,  06/21/12
Death panels No extraordinary care over 80 No medmal d...
Drunkard  06/21/12
lifetime cap of $150K? that's like one trauma hawk ride or 2...
MoreDoughHi  06/21/12
I think he means pain and suffering, consortium, etc
:D  06/21/12
no i think he means bills.
MoreDoughHi  06/21/12
maybe he meant annual, even that could do a lot.
.,.,...,.,,,.,:.,:,...,:::,...,;.,..,:..:.,:,::,  06/21/12
Have every BABYBOOMER jump off their nearest bridge. fixe...
UPenn is a Great State School  06/21/12
nationalize health care
climbing kike mountain  06/21/12
...
Joseph Gordon-Franzen  06/21/12
don't fuck with it i'm applying to med $chool
.,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::  06/21/12
Increase supply of doctors. Increase supply of nurses. Inc...
LJB submissively urinating as a random man passes  06/21/12
how about basic universal coverage for everyone with high de...
..,.,;..;...;:..;.,...;..,..:.,....  06/21/12
Stop subsidizing medical services. Stop regulating nurses o...
.....,,.,,.,.,,,,,,,,,,.  06/21/12
Create a national single payer system that covers the first ...
jack24  06/21/12


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Date: June 21st, 2012 3:57 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

A common reptilian complaint directed against Obamacare is its irresponsible in cost-management.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929704)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:03 PM
Author: :D (handsome, sociable, charismatic, would make a good husband, dawg)

The last year of life is where costs go nuts and the quality of life is awful. It's time for a sober discussion about the necessity of extreme care in the old. Our politics are too demagogued with rhetoric about death panels and euthanasia though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929736)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:05 PM
Author: Talk to Your Kids About Niggers ( )

so, death panels, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929743)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM
Author: NO_LIMIT_GINGER

Cr solution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930153)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:26 PM
Author: ,;.;,.;.,;.,;.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.;,.,;.,;.,;.,.;.,;.;,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929894)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:09 PM
Author: jonnyBlaze

stop paying doctors and hospitals so much damn money for so little work. remember that there are medicare rates for every single procedure. Just slash these by 30-40%.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929768)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:25 PM
Author: Mance Gaydar (no limit Greetings)

Greetings,

PCPs make WAY too much money for very little work. I went to a new doc w/o my insurance card one time, so I had to submit the final bill to my insurance provider later. So I got the actual "uninsured dood" bill.

Bill was over $100 for a 15 minute meeting where the doc LITERALLY just wrote me a three-month refill on blood pressure medication. Not even 15minutes with doc. 5 mins of getting weighed by a nurse, having bp taken, etc; 5 minutes of sitting in cold room alone; 5 minutes of doctor saying 'hi bye here's your script'

Reminder: PCPs are, on average, REALLY FUCKING DUMB. Like barely made it into med school, barely passed classes, couldn't get even a remotely decent residency, etc.

It's like a Cooley Law grad billing $400/hr to spellcheck your pro se petition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929884)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:31 PM
Author: jonnyBlaze

Ding. PCPs are generally the ones who work the most for the least pay. They have to deal with the most people. Very few people pay the "uninsured" rates. Chances are w/ insurance that would have cost like 20 bucks.

Specialist/surgeon rates are absurd, even w/ insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929933)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:42 PM
Author: See Ex

vis a vis specialty providers, pcps tend to accommodate higher patient volumes, yes. with this, tho, pcps are making comparatively superficial diagnoses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930313)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: See Ex

Or like a plumber charging $375/hr. for snaking pipe on Sundays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930280)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:18 PM
Author: Dick Cake

End fantasy of dollar one coverage.

Encourage catastrophic policies.

Introduced sensible market based reforms that introduce competition (e.g. end absurd prohibitions on selling insurance across state lines)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929833)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:28 PM
Author: AZNgirl honoring WWII vets who killed AZNmen

unleash FREEDOM! and INNOVATION and CAPITALISM to SAVE all uninsured Americans from socialist Obamacare DEATH!

- President Romney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929905)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:29 PM
Author: ..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.

the state of georgia did that - it failed:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/01/georgia-cross-state-health-insurance-sales-law-a-major-bust/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929914)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:33 PM
Author: Dick Cake

You didn't actually read that article did you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929940)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:37 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,,.,:.,:,...,:::,...,;.,..,:..:.,:,::,

nix fats

nix malpractice lawyers

nix rent seeking medical professionals

nix new innovative practices that cost 10x more than old ones but are only 1% better

nix intensive end of life care, if 100,000 isn't going to save you, you're done unless you can pay out of pocket

nix health insurance if you swallow more than some amount of fat per year or if you exercise less than 4 days a week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929966)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:04 PM
Author: Drunkard (He needed killin')

Death panels

No extraordinary care over 80

No medmal damages possible

Lifetime cap of 150k

Single payer system



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930114)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:10 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

lifetime cap of $150K? that's like one trauma hawk ride or 2 years of cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930147)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM
Author: :D (handsome, sociable, charismatic, would make a good husband, dawg)

I think he means pain and suffering, consortium, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930154)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM
Author: MoreDoughHi

no i think he means bills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930158)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:13 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,,.,:.,:,...,:::,...,;.,..,:..:.,:,::,

maybe he meant annual, even that could do a lot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930166)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:20 PM
Author: UPenn is a Great State School

Have every BABYBOOMER jump off their nearest bridge.

fixed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930202)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:20 PM
Author: climbing kike mountain

nationalize health care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930208)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: Joseph Gordon-Franzen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930323)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:35 PM
Author: .,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::

don't fuck with it i'm applying to med $chool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930281)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:46 PM
Author: LJB submissively urinating as a random man passes

Increase supply of doctors.

Increase supply of nurses.

Increase the amount of work nurses can do.

$100k yearly caps on people 80 or older.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930341)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: ..,.,;..;...;:..;.,...;..,..:.,....

how about basic universal coverage for everyone with high deductibles

if you want extra high tech shit you have to pay out of pocket

if you want life extending type care after age 85 you have to pay out of pocket

open more med schools; lower standards; train more nurses; negotiate for lower prescription drug prices; make med mal best practices safe harbors; disincentive docs from elective practices somehow



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930350)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: .....,,.,,.,.,,,,,,,,,,.

Stop subsidizing medical services.

Stop regulating nurses out of jobs to protect doctors.

Stop subsidizing medical schools.

Require public posting of rates for services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930365)



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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:51 PM
Author: jack24

Create a national single payer system that covers the first $1,000 and everything over $20,000 per year. Then let people either pay for the $19,000 (if needed) or get an additional private insurance to pay for it.

The desired effect would be that health care consumers would actually know how much their care costs and would be more selective. Hopefully this would encourage competition and innovation, while not subjecting everyone with a major medical problem to bankruptcy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930394)