Date: August 7th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

I feel bad for him. He graduated solidly top 15% from a T1, and now he's unemployed. This was after beginning work at this shit commercial debt collection firm when he was a 1L. Now he's got nothing.

The writing was on the wall, though. He should have always been looking for a new gig. He had little to no work to do for months before he got shitcanned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279670)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: .,.,..,...,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,;

why did he get fired? it's hard to put on an eager face in shitlaw, i know from experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279673)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

They just didn't have the work for him. He's a great employee and had stayed with them since the beginning of 1L. They almost hired him out of pity, because they always hinted that they had a job for him. It was basically a firm with three really old partners, like in their late 60s/early 70s. There was one other associate with five years in.

His bosses seemed like pretty decent people. He never complained about them, they appreciated him and let him know that. I guess they were actually devastaed they had to let him go.

He should have never settled with this place though. He basically hitched his cart to shit law and didnt' even realize it was shit law or understand the market. When they negotiated for his starting salary, he asked some professor who has never been in private practice what he should ask for.

She asked what market was, he told her 160K, she told him 75% of that. So he actually asked for 120K from an absolute TTT shitlaw firm. They nicely told him 60K was the most he could do, and he accepted it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279679)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: .,.,..,...,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,;

60k is pretty fucking good bro. like twice what i'm making, and i get no bennies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279688)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

He told me 60K...its possible that it was really like 50 or something and he was too embarassed. I don't really know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279695)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,....,.,,,.....,..........,.,...,.,,

"She asked what market was, he told her 160K, she told him 75% of that. So he actually asked for 120K from an absolute TTT shitlaw firm."

How the fuck could someone be that clueless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279722)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

I really don't know man. I was honestly so shocked when he told me that went down. My friend and I talked about it and laughed in absolute disbelief.

And LOL at the professor. Proof what a fucking joke law schools are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279741)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,....,.,,,.....,..........,.,...,.,,

It sounds like barely anybody gets biglaw there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279763)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

class of 2011 got way fucked. i mean, some people around his level got it, many did not. it was completely random.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279802)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:53 AM
Author: Mark Ironside

Why didn't he offer to work hourly? Then at least he'd have a little income and he'd have something on his resume as he looked for a new job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279682)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

I don't think it was on the table. He's getting unemployment at least.

Its fucked up. He's a great guy, got pretty good grades despite working at this firm part time for 2.5 years, beginning DURING 1L year.

In a way, its his fault, because he never aggresively tried to find something better when he had the chance. I know lots of people with his creds that got mid law or decent small law.

Now he has no job. He's gotten some interviews, but no bites yet, and those interviews came when he still was finishing up at shitlaw, as they gave him a full months notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279690)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: Mark Ironside

He should have asked. It's no skin off the shitlaw firm's back to have him as an hourly employee. Poor guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279696)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

Maybe too prideful to take such a demotion. The shitlaw firm didn't offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279711)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: Judas Jones

Shitpride cometh before the shitfall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279811)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:45 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279950)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:58 AM
Author: .,;'.,;'.,.;'.,.;'.,,.;,;.;,.''';[;.,,'

people get way too attached to false loyalty.

your friend should have been CONSTANTLY hustling for a new job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279697)

Date: August 7th, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: .,.,..,...,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,;

yeah, i'm in shitlaw and still scour job boards every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279706)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:01 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

I know man. This is his biggest problem- he kinda needs a good job to fall in his lap. This just doesn't happen ITE.

The crazy thing is he'd make a great lawyer- I know absolute IDIOTS that are getting paid 100K plus. Fuck man it sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279718)

Date: August 7th, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace

Fuck law. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279710)

Date: August 7th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21283065)

Date: November 5th, 2012 10:12 AM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

Update- friend found employment about a month ago. He has joined an insurance defense mill, which I believe pays about 70k/year. This is actually a pay upgrade from his shitlaw debt collection firm, which only paid 50k. The bad news is that the insurance firm requires 2000 hours per year, much more than his previous firm. The good news is that he has a soft offer to join a more legitimate, larger insurance firm that pays 110K or so once they start hiring. So i am glad he is employed and hopeful he will actually land in a decent situation soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21966796)