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Why are equity and enterprise values just an indentity relations

wouldn't real equity value of a company with no debt be high...
abusive haunted graveyard trailer park
  10/01/12
what do you mean by same nominal equity value?
Sadistic Reading Party Market
  10/01/12
Your question doesn't really make sense. Adding debt decreas...
mauve party of the first part
  10/01/12
lol
Ocher forum
  10/01/12
can you give a numeric example
chest-beating flirting clown pocket flask
  10/01/12
Company A has enterprise value of $100 and no debt, so it's ...
abusive haunted graveyard trailer park
  10/01/12
lmao. Enterprise value = market value of equity + debt + oth...
puce generalized bond
  02/19/18
what
Swashbuckling Sooty Skinny Woman
  10/01/12
Apples v Oranges EV doesn’t describe how much a company i...
bronze spot wagecucks
  02/19/18
it does. in fact it’s a better way of looking at value since...
puce generalized bond
  02/19/18


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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:51 PM
Author: abusive haunted graveyard trailer park

wouldn't real equity value of a company with no debt be higher than a company with the same nominal equity value but leveraged like 99 to 1?

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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:53 PM
Author: Sadistic Reading Party Market

what do you mean by same nominal equity value?

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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:52 PM
Author: mauve party of the first part

Your question doesn't really make sense. Adding debt decreases equity value.

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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:53 PM
Author: Ocher forum

lol

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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:54 PM
Author: chest-beating flirting clown pocket flask

can you give a numeric example

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Date: October 1st, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: abusive haunted graveyard trailer park

Company A has enterprise value of $100 and no debt, so it's equity value is $100.

Company B has enterprise value of $10,000 and $9,900 of debt, so its equity value is also $100.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2066446&forum_id=2#21691667)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: puce generalized bond

lmao. Enterprise value = market value of equity + debt + other claims on cash flows (eg, excess pension liabilities, capital leases) - cash - non-operating assets. the point is to estimate the value of a company’s operating assets *regardless of capital structure*

if Company A has an enterprise value of $100 AND we assume (1) it has no cash/non operating assets AND (2) it has no debt, fine the market value of equity can equal $100 (but i’m 100% this thought process didn’t occur to you)

same deal with company B - you’re starting with the enterprise value without saying anything about the company’s assets

in reality though, once a company is over leveraged, its cost of capital will spike exponentially and its share price and cost of debt will tank and spike, respectively (thereby both the enterprise value, which is supposed to be capital structure neutral, as well as the market value).

found this because i searched for enterprise value on XOXO to find something lolzy. was not disappointed. ask me other finance questions if you like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2066446&forum_id=2#35437607)



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Date: October 1st, 2012 2:03 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Sooty Skinny Woman

what

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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:56 PM
Author: bronze spot wagecucks

Apples v Oranges

EV doesn’t describe how much a company is worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2066446&forum_id=2#35437616)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: puce generalized bond

it does. in fact it’s a better way of looking at value since it’s not affected by what you do with the right side of the balance sheet (eg raising or paying off debt, buying back stock)

equity value says how much the company’s assets are worth to equity holders. enterprise value says how much the company’s operating assets are worth to all claims on those assets. agree apples and oranges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2066446&forum_id=2#35437629)