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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
180 range
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
Greedy Pervert Dilemma
  10/04/12
Lmao!
Black scourge upon the earth deer antler
  10/04/12
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heady judgmental round eye
  10/05/12
what state?
Disturbing Useless Brakes
  10/04/12
lol
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  10/04/12
lol
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Dashing Address Karate
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
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  10/04/12
shitlaw steve
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  05/12/22
If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
heady judgmental round eye
  10/04/12
180
diverse geriatric business firm
  10/04/12
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heady judgmental round eye
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
brass parlour
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
Disgusting volcanic crater
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
Lake people who are hurt
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
heady judgmental round eye
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
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  10/05/12
tyty
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180 if real, 180 if not real
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  12/06/13
180 well done.
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  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
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  05/27/17
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Harsh Swashbuckling Generalized Bond
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Angry fuchsia library laser beams
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
heady judgmental round eye
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Angry fuchsia library laser beams
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
heady judgmental round eye
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
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  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
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  10/04/12
Flame.
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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  10/05/12
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Arrogant base
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: 180 range

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: Greedy Pervert Dilemma

take it and make him stop you

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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: Black scourge upon the earth deer antler

Lmao!

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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: heady judgmental round eye



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: Disturbing Useless Brakes

what state?

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: Soul-stirring principal's office wagecucks

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: Cordovan Floppy Dopamine Lay

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: Dashing Address Karate



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: indigo learning disabled theater

fuckin' steve

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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

shitlaw steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: Purple Rigor University



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: diverse geriatric business firm

180

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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: brass parlour

Lol xoxo

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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: Disgusting volcanic crater

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: Lake people who are hurt

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: scarlet indian lodge incel

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

tyty

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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: Ruby flirting box office psychic

180

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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: Arrogant base

180

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Citrine School Cafeteria Really Tough Guy



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: Electric peach location twinkling uncleanness

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: Adulterous orchestra pit

180 if real, 180 if not real

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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: saffron fat ankles hospital



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: shaky pungent brunch

180 well done.

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Cordovan Floppy Dopamine Lay

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Harsh Swashbuckling Generalized Bond



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Angry fuchsia library laser beams

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Angry fuchsia library laser beams

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

sweet good luck bro

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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Electric peach location twinkling uncleanness

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: glittery magical stage

Flame.

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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye

cr

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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: Erotic Home

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: Haunting pearly dysfunction mad cow disease

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: heady judgmental round eye



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Boyish Pozpig Hall



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: Arrogant base



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Cordovan Floppy Dopamine Lay

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: rusted indirect expression electric furnace



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: Anal trailer park voyeur

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Purple Rigor University



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