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Biglaw Bros: Does it get better?

New associate. Most days I have no idea what's going on and...
Maroon titillating hissy fit mother
  01/06/13
NO
Beady-eyed corner people who are hurt
  11/23/14
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henna talented piazza cuckold
  07/03/20
it takes years to get better unfortunately brother, and u wi...
dead boistinker university
  01/06/13
It will be like this for years. After you figure it out, you...
Spectacular offensive temple mad-dog skullcap
  01/06/13
It gets different but not better. I don't worry about not k...
vigorous sadistic mad cow disease home
  01/06/13
this
adventurous charcoal theater queen of the night
  01/06/13
wait...you mean you don't just GET to make millions because ...
razzle greedy antidepressant drug dilemma
  11/23/14
Maybe you should ask questions and stop being a pussy.
deep background story
  01/06/13
*asks a question* *gets stare like you are asking them to...
dead boistinker university
  01/06/13
(has never worked in biglaw)
Maroon titillating hissy fit mother
  01/06/13
Lol!
Disrespectful turdskin
  01/06/13
Annoyed the partner tells you to consider something complete...
harsh cocky filthpig
  11/23/14
No
at-the-ready idiot institution
  01/06/13
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Aggressive puppy quadroon
  01/06/13
not biglaw but i think you will shortly stop caring about lo...
Bright Theatre Weed Whacker
  01/06/13
It doesn't get better as much as you just stop caring.
dark supple boltzmann
  01/06/13
lol
Sticky razzmatazz range
  01/06/13
it was a serious answer bro
dark supple boltzmann
  01/06/13
not really sure why this pumo piece of shit is laughing
claret bisexual sweet tailpipe karate
  01/06/13
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black soul-stirring theater stage
  11/23/14
This was so true for me. Around year five I had no idea wha...
bespoke box office ape
  11/23/14
yep, this is the cr. as you get more senior you actually ha...
bossy senate multi-billionaire
  11/23/14
everything only gets worse
Irate multi-colored field persian
  01/06/13
Stewing in your ignorance? That's a problem? Just do your ...
histrionic location
  01/06/13
why don't you ask your fellow first years
Provocative Cruise Ship Friendly Grandma
  01/06/13
We're all working on different projects. They might have th...
Maroon titillating hissy fit mother
  01/06/13
give an example of something that gave you difficulty
Provocative Cruise Ship Friendly Grandma
  01/06/13
So OP complains about people not caring and not feeling welc...
stimulating walnut area idea he suggested
  01/07/13
a good portion of his fellow first years will think "if...
Excitant Dull Cuckoldry Center
  01/07/13
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motley iridescent property
  01/07/13
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Aggressive puppy quadroon
  01/07/13
...
black soul-stirring theater stage
  11/23/14
...
Mildly Autistic Flickering Police Squad Rehab
  01/06/13
You're new at a job, hence you don't know how to do anything...
glassy irradiated psychic
  01/07/13
it doesnt get better. it gets worse. but the problems you de...
Mind-boggling pontificating garrison mexican
  11/23/14
It gets better in a couple ways. Either you will shoot your...
federal maize indian lodge jewess
  11/23/14
It's a prison sentence, bro, Luckily for you, you are joi...
bespoke box office ape
  11/23/14
enjoy it while it lasts because the law shit is the easy shi...
Cowardly frisky international law enforcement agency shitlib
  11/23/14
your mistake is that you think it's a problem that you don't...
drab nighttime reading party
  11/23/14
this is entirely correct if you don't know how to prepare...
Topaz kitty cat potus
  11/23/14
180 advice Even for us gov't drones.
opaque parlour
  12/13/14
Yes. Also, remember that everyone knows you're a first ye...
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  11/23/14
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black soul-stirring theater stage
  12/13/14
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:44 PM
Author: Maroon titillating hissy fit mother

New associate. Most days I have no idea what's going on and I feel like I can't ask other people. Half the time I don't even know what questions to ask; other times I stew in my ignorance rather than ask questions out of fear of sounding stupid. I'm flying this plane blind, and it's causing me major stress and anxiety.

Does it get better brothers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380810)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 9:04 PM
Author: Beady-eyed corner people who are hurt

NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26781397)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: henna talented piazza cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543622)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:45 PM
Author: dead boistinker university

it takes years to get better unfortunately brother, and u will probably be driven to quit/fired before then if you are in a practice group that doesn't have any interest in training you (which it sounds like you are)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380818)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: Spectacular offensive temple mad-dog skullcap

It will be like this for years. After you figure it out, you'll worry about getting time on your feet. You won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380828)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: vigorous sadistic mad cow disease home

It gets different but not better. I don't worry about not knowing how to do the job substantively anymore, but as so as you have that worked out you have to start dealing with managing juniors, business generation, reviewing bills, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380843)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:50 PM
Author: adventurous charcoal theater queen of the night

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380853)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:24 AM
Author: razzle greedy antidepressant drug dilemma

wait...you mean you don't just GET to make millions because you got a law degree from CLS or Northwestern or Georgetown (or some other elite school)?

this makes no sense AT ALL? you meant to tell me competition exists?

this is mind blowing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777355)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:49 PM
Author: deep background story

Maybe you should ask questions and stop being a pussy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380845)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:56 PM
Author: dead boistinker university

*asks a question*

*gets stare like you are asking them to do your work for you*

*is given vague answer and told to look it up*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380900)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: Maroon titillating hissy fit mother

(has never worked in biglaw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380915)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:12 PM
Author: Disrespectful turdskin

Lol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381040)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:29 AM
Author: harsh cocky filthpig

Annoyed the partner tells you to consider something completely unrelated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777373)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: at-the-ready idiot institution

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380868)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: Aggressive puppy quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380869)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Bright Theatre Weed Whacker

not biglaw but i think you will shortly stop caring about looking stupid when the job sucks the joy out of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380910)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: dark supple boltzmann

It doesn't get better as much as you just stop caring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380962)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: Sticky razzmatazz range

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380976)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: dark supple boltzmann

it was a serious answer bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380993)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM
Author: claret bisexual sweet tailpipe karate

not really sure why this pumo piece of shit is laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381064)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:04 AM
Author: black soul-stirring theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777279)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:22 AM
Author: bespoke box office ape

This was so true for me. Around year five I had no idea what I was doing it for, just mindless plodding,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777348)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:41 AM
Author: bossy senate multi-billionaire

yep, this is the cr. as you get more senior you actually have more reason to be stressed, but you care so much less so it improves on the whole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777420)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: Irate multi-colored field persian

everything only gets worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380979)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: histrionic location

Stewing in your ignorance? That's a problem? Just do your work and bill that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380997)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: Provocative Cruise Ship Friendly Grandma

why don't you ask your fellow first years



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381016)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:14 PM
Author: Maroon titillating hissy fit mother

We're all working on different projects. They might have their own slice of the universe figured out, but they usually can't help me unless I bore them with the details of a project they're not on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381050)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:20 PM
Author: Provocative Cruise Ship Friendly Grandma

give an example of something that gave you difficulty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381096)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:12 AM
Author: stimulating walnut area idea he suggested

So OP complains about people not caring and not feeling welcome to ask questions but when someone asks, he disappears. I think i see the root of the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22383538)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:38 AM
Author: Excitant Dull Cuckoldry Center

a good portion of his fellow first years will think "if i can get this fool to quit i increase my chances of partnership!"

the last people he should speak with are first years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22383551)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: motley iridescent property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384087)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:18 PM
Author: Aggressive puppy quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384383)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:05 AM
Author: black soul-stirring theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777282)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Flickering Police Squad Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381061)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: glassy irradiated psychic

You're new at a job, hence you don't know how to do anything. There is nothing unusual about this. Your befuddlement is no more special than your alleged talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384422)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:06 AM
Author: Mind-boggling pontificating garrison mexican

it doesnt get better. it gets worse. but the problems you describe get better. as you get more senior, a different set of problems cause more stress and anxiety.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777284)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:16 AM
Author: federal maize indian lodge jewess

It gets better in a couple ways. Either you will shoot yourself with a gun and drift off into that eternal nothingness or you will get canned. Until then good luck brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777322)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: bespoke box office ape

It's a prison sentence, bro,

Luckily for you, you are joining during a good economy, so hopefully there will be a good job environment three years out,

Of course, the last time Biglaw had a big bonus season, the economy promptly went to shit. Hopefully that doesn't again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777343)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:25 AM
Author: Cowardly frisky international law enforcement agency shitlib

enjoy it while it lasts because the law shit is the easy shit, good luck generating business down the line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777361)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:13 PM
Author: drab nighttime reading party

your mistake is that you think it's a problem that you don't know anything. it's not a problem to not know your job is to find it out.

think about how you would find it out. Then find it out. If you're totally off base someone will tell you and you'll do differently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26780026)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:36 PM
Author: Topaz kitty cat potus

this is entirely correct

if you don't know how to prepare a type of doc, ask some midlevels if they have any precedent docs. As you prepare types of docs, build your own precedent library (keeping precedents people send you) so you never ask twice

if you don't know law, your job is to learn it. It is OK if you have to spend several hours reading a treatise before you dive into the specific issue.

if you don't understand your instructions/know what to do next, then ask the next senior person. Best way to do this is to come with your own idea of what to do next, and then when you speak to senior, you're like "the current situation is X, so I was thinking Y is best course of action, do you agree?" or something. Or, alternatively, just do the next thing and discuss with senior after you're done (caveat - if next step is to talk/send something to client or other outside party, always ask first)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26780179)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 8:22 PM
Author: opaque parlour

180 advice

Even for us gov't drones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26924836)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 8:50 PM
Author: Vivacious startled degenerate roast beef

Yes.

Also, remember that everyone knows you're a first year and that you don't know anything - don't stress that you don't know things that you couldn't possibly be expected to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26781248)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 12:41 PM
Author: black soul-stirring theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26922467)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 9:29 PM
Author: insane stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26925188)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: Misunderstood Canary Dingle Berry Tanning Salon

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543630)