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Biglaw Bros: Does it get better?
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:44 PM Author: Racy stubborn institution New associate. Most days I have no idea what's going on and I feel like I can't ask other people. Half the time I don't even know what questions to ask; other times I stew in my ignorance rather than ask questions out of fear of sounding stupid. I'm flying this plane blind, and it's causing me major stress and anxiety.
Does it get better brothers? |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 9:04 PM Author: Primrose adventurous den azn NO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26781397) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:57 PM Author: Glittery aggressive dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543622) |
Date: January 6th, 2013 8:45 PM Author: sinister ape site it takes years to get better unfortunately brother, and u will probably be driven to quit/fired before then if you are in a practice group that doesn't have any interest in training you (which it sounds like you are) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380818) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:46 PM Author: translucent locale It will be like this for years. After you figure it out, you'll worry about getting time on your feet. You won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380828) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:48 PM Author: Hilarious space It gets different but not better. I don't worry about not knowing how to do the job substantively anymore, but as so as you have that worked out you have to start dealing with managing juniors, business generation, reviewing bills, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380843) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:50 PM Author: Comical preventive strike this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380853) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:24 AM Author: odious rigpig theater wait...you mean you don't just GET to make millions because you got a law degree from CLS or Northwestern or Georgetown (or some other elite school)? this makes no sense AT ALL? you meant to tell me competition exists?
this is mind blowing. |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:49 PM Author: Navy exhilarant jewess point Maybe you should ask questions and stop being a pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380845) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:56 PM Author: sinister ape site *asks a question*
*gets stare like you are asking them to do your work for you*
*is given vague answer and told to look it up* |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:58 PM Author: Racy stubborn institution (has never worked in biglaw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380915) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:12 PM Author: fighting plaza half-breed Lol! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381040) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:29 AM Author: Heady incel garrison Annoyed the partner tells you to consider something completely unrelated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777373) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM Author: big puppy travel guidebook No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380868) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM Author: Medicated Regret Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380869) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:57 PM Author: Laughsome pearly turdskin mood not biglaw but i think you will shortly stop caring about looking stupid when the job sucks the joy out of you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380910) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:03 PM Author: silver razzle hospital It doesn't get better as much as you just stop caring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380962) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM Author: Nubile underhanded boistinker tanning salon lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380976) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM Author: silver razzle hospital it was a serious answer bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380993) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM Author: Charismatic weed whacker not really sure why this pumo piece of shit is laughing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381064) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:04 AM Author: Obsidian lettuce trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777279) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:22 AM Author: frum really tough guy This was so true for me. Around year five I had no idea what I was doing it for, just mindless plodding, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777348) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:41 AM Author: costumed hairraiser bawdyhouse water buffalo yep, this is the cr. as you get more senior you actually have more reason to be stressed, but you care so much less so it improves on the whole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777420) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM Author: Contagious charcoal whorehouse friendly grandma everything only gets worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380979) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM Author: Spectacular Business Firm Stewing in your ignorance? That's a problem? Just do your work and bill that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380997) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:09 PM Author: Beady-eyed Nighttime Kitchen Dysfunction why don't you ask your fellow first years
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:14 PM Author: Racy stubborn institution We're all working on different projects. They might have their own slice of the universe figured out, but they usually can't help me unless I bore them with the details of a project they're not on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381050) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:20 PM Author: Beady-eyed Nighttime Kitchen Dysfunction give an example of something that gave you difficulty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381096) |
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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:12 AM Author: puce nofapping becky So OP complains about people not caring and not feeling welcome to ask questions but when someone asks, he disappears. I think i see the root of the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22383538) |
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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:38 AM Author: Abusive umber ticket booth a good portion of his fellow first years will think "if i can get this fool to quit i increase my chances of partnership!"
the last people he should speak with are first years |
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Date: January 7th, 2013 11:27 AM Author: slippery rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384087) |
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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:18 PM Author: Medicated Regret Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384383) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:05 AM Author: Obsidian lettuce trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777282) |
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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM Author: gold razzmatazz crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381061) |
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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:26 PM Author: duck-like copper rigor area You're new at a job, hence you don't know how to do anything. There is nothing unusual about this. Your befuddlement is no more special than your alleged talent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384422) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:06 AM Author: 180 mauve juggernaut center it doesnt get better. it gets worse. but the problems you describe get better. as you get more senior, a different set of problems cause more stress and anxiety. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777284) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:16 AM Author: Khaki theater stage It gets better in a couple ways. Either you will shoot yourself with a gun and drift off into that eternal nothingness or you will get canned. Until then good luck brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777322) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:20 AM Author: frum really tough guy It's a prison sentence, bro,
Luckily for you, you are joining during a good economy, so hopefully there will be a good job environment three years out,
Of course, the last time Biglaw had a big bonus season, the economy promptly went to shit. Hopefully that doesn't again. |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:25 AM Author: hot step-uncle's house enjoy it while it lasts because the law shit is the easy shit, good luck generating business down the line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777361) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:13 PM Author: iridescent hateful set your mistake is that you think it's a problem that you don't know anything. it's not a problem to not know your job is to find it out. think about how you would find it out. Then find it out. If you're totally off base someone will tell you and you'll do differently. |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:36 PM Author: Fishy Exciting Menage Stain this is entirely correct
if you don't know how to prepare a type of doc, ask some midlevels if they have any precedent docs. As you prepare types of docs, build your own precedent library (keeping precedents people send you) so you never ask twice
if you don't know law, your job is to learn it. It is OK if you have to spend several hours reading a treatise before you dive into the specific issue.
if you don't understand your instructions/know what to do next, then ask the next senior person. Best way to do this is to come with your own idea of what to do next, and then when you speak to senior, you're like "the current situation is X, so I was thinking Y is best course of action, do you agree?" or something. Or, alternatively, just do the next thing and discuss with senior after you're done (caveat - if next step is to talk/send something to client or other outside party, always ask first)
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Date: December 13th, 2014 8:22 PM Author: talented keepsake machete alpha 180 advice
Even for us gov't drones. |
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Date: November 23rd, 2014 8:50 PM Author: Vivacious mustard marketing idea native Yes.
Also, remember that everyone knows you're a first year and that you don't know anything - don't stress that you don't know things that you couldn't possibly be expected to know. |
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Date: December 13th, 2014 12:41 PM Author: Obsidian lettuce trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26922467) |
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Date: December 13th, 2014 9:29 PM Author: Fear-inspiring bateful newt range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26925188) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:58 PM Author: self-centered church building crotch . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543630) |