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Biglaw Bros: Does it get better?

New associate. Most days I have no idea what's going on and...
Emerald talented heaven roommate
  01/06/13
NO
Thriller personal credit line police squad
  11/23/14
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stirring becky orchestra pit
  07/03/20
it takes years to get better unfortunately brother, and u wi...
amethyst vigorous pit
  01/06/13
It will be like this for years. After you figure it out, you...
Carmine Hospital
  01/06/13
It gets different but not better. I don't worry about not k...
razzmatazz circlehead center
  01/06/13
this
soul-stirring milky tattoo haunted graveyard
  01/06/13
wait...you mean you don't just GET to make millions because ...
nighttime bawdyhouse
  11/23/14
Maybe you should ask questions and stop being a pussy.
Ruby Love Of Her Life
  01/06/13
*asks a question* *gets stare like you are asking them to...
amethyst vigorous pit
  01/06/13
(has never worked in biglaw)
Emerald talented heaven roommate
  01/06/13
Lol!
gold haunting senate famous landscape painting
  01/06/13
Annoyed the partner tells you to consider something complete...
jade crusty macaca brunch
  11/23/14
No
Lilac principal's office boiling water
  01/06/13
...
transparent range masturbator
  01/06/13
not biglaw but i think you will shortly stop caring about lo...
Mind-boggling mauve church building
  01/06/13
It doesn't get better as much as you just stop caring.
saffron kink-friendly public bath
  01/06/13
lol
Concupiscible Chestnut State Factory Reset Button
  01/06/13
it was a serious answer bro
saffron kink-friendly public bath
  01/06/13
not really sure why this pumo piece of shit is laughing
Beady-eyed Pea-brained Address Main People
  01/06/13
...
Stubborn razzle-dazzle jewess plaza
  11/23/14
This was so true for me. Around year five I had no idea wha...
racy piazza
  11/23/14
yep, this is the cr. as you get more senior you actually ha...
Rose Karate Resort
  11/23/14
everything only gets worse
Magenta Native
  01/06/13
Stewing in your ignorance? That's a problem? Just do your ...
Primrose pervert
  01/06/13
why don't you ask your fellow first years
Provocative forum
  01/06/13
We're all working on different projects. They might have th...
Emerald talented heaven roommate
  01/06/13
give an example of something that gave you difficulty
Provocative forum
  01/06/13
So OP complains about people not caring and not feeling welc...
Chocolate den
  01/07/13
a good portion of his fellow first years will think "if...
Shivering exhilarant parlour
  01/07/13
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Aromatic Step-uncle's House
  01/07/13
...
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  01/07/13
...
Stubborn razzle-dazzle jewess plaza
  11/23/14
...
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  01/06/13
You're new at a job, hence you don't know how to do anything...
Godawful rehab newt
  01/07/13
it doesnt get better. it gets worse. but the problems you de...
Electric flesh foreskin
  11/23/14
It gets better in a couple ways. Either you will shoot your...
mahogany selfie base
  11/23/14
It's a prison sentence, bro, Luckily for you, you are joi...
racy piazza
  11/23/14
enjoy it while it lasts because the law shit is the easy shi...
Alcoholic Market Hissy Fit
  11/23/14
your mistake is that you think it's a problem that you don't...
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  11/23/14
this is entirely correct if you don't know how to prepare...
Flirting kitchen party of the first part
  11/23/14
180 advice Even for us gov't drones.
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  12/13/14
Yes. Also, remember that everyone knows you're a first ye...
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  11/23/14
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  12/13/14
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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:44 PM
Author: Emerald talented heaven roommate

New associate. Most days I have no idea what's going on and I feel like I can't ask other people. Half the time I don't even know what questions to ask; other times I stew in my ignorance rather than ask questions out of fear of sounding stupid. I'm flying this plane blind, and it's causing me major stress and anxiety.

Does it get better brothers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380810)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 9:04 PM
Author: Thriller personal credit line police squad

NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26781397)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: stirring becky orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543622)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:45 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous pit

it takes years to get better unfortunately brother, and u will probably be driven to quit/fired before then if you are in a practice group that doesn't have any interest in training you (which it sounds like you are)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380818)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:46 PM
Author: Carmine Hospital

It will be like this for years. After you figure it out, you'll worry about getting time on your feet. You won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380828)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:48 PM
Author: razzmatazz circlehead center

It gets different but not better. I don't worry about not knowing how to do the job substantively anymore, but as so as you have that worked out you have to start dealing with managing juniors, business generation, reviewing bills, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380843)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring milky tattoo haunted graveyard

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380853)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:24 AM
Author: nighttime bawdyhouse

wait...you mean you don't just GET to make millions because you got a law degree from CLS or Northwestern or Georgetown (or some other elite school)?

this makes no sense AT ALL? you meant to tell me competition exists?

this is mind blowing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777355)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:49 PM
Author: Ruby Love Of Her Life

Maybe you should ask questions and stop being a pussy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380845)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:56 PM
Author: amethyst vigorous pit

*asks a question*

*gets stare like you are asking them to do your work for you*

*is given vague answer and told to look it up*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380900)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: Emerald talented heaven roommate

(has never worked in biglaw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380915)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:12 PM
Author: gold haunting senate famous landscape painting

Lol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381040)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:29 AM
Author: jade crusty macaca brunch

Annoyed the partner tells you to consider something completely unrelated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777373)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: Lilac principal's office boiling water

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380868)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:52 PM
Author: transparent range masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380869)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Mind-boggling mauve church building

not biglaw but i think you will shortly stop caring about looking stupid when the job sucks the joy out of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380910)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: saffron kink-friendly public bath

It doesn't get better as much as you just stop caring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380962)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: Concupiscible Chestnut State Factory Reset Button

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380976)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: saffron kink-friendly public bath

it was a serious answer bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380993)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Pea-brained Address Main People

not really sure why this pumo piece of shit is laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381064)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:04 AM
Author: Stubborn razzle-dazzle jewess plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777279)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:22 AM
Author: racy piazza

This was so true for me. Around year five I had no idea what I was doing it for, just mindless plodding,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777348)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:41 AM
Author: Rose Karate Resort

yep, this is the cr. as you get more senior you actually have more reason to be stressed, but you care so much less so it improves on the whole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777420)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:05 PM
Author: Magenta Native

everything only gets worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380979)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: Primrose pervert

Stewing in your ignorance? That's a problem? Just do your work and bill that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22380997)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: Provocative forum

why don't you ask your fellow first years



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381016)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:14 PM
Author: Emerald talented heaven roommate

We're all working on different projects. They might have their own slice of the universe figured out, but they usually can't help me unless I bore them with the details of a project they're not on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381050)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:20 PM
Author: Provocative forum

give an example of something that gave you difficulty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381096)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:12 AM
Author: Chocolate den

So OP complains about people not caring and not feeling welcome to ask questions but when someone asks, he disappears. I think i see the root of the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22383538)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 7:38 AM
Author: Shivering exhilarant parlour

a good portion of his fellow first years will think "if i can get this fool to quit i increase my chances of partnership!"

the last people he should speak with are first years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22383551)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: Aromatic Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384087)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:18 PM
Author: transparent range masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384383)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:05 AM
Author: Stubborn razzle-dazzle jewess plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777282)



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Date: January 6th, 2013 9:16 PM
Author: big harsh organic girlfriend stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22381061)



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Date: January 7th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: Godawful rehab newt

You're new at a job, hence you don't know how to do anything. There is nothing unusual about this. Your befuddlement is no more special than your alleged talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#22384422)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:06 AM
Author: Electric flesh foreskin

it doesnt get better. it gets worse. but the problems you describe get better. as you get more senior, a different set of problems cause more stress and anxiety.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777284)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:16 AM
Author: mahogany selfie base

It gets better in a couple ways. Either you will shoot yourself with a gun and drift off into that eternal nothingness or you will get canned. Until then good luck brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777322)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: racy piazza

It's a prison sentence, bro,

Luckily for you, you are joining during a good economy, so hopefully there will be a good job environment three years out,

Of course, the last time Biglaw had a big bonus season, the economy promptly went to shit. Hopefully that doesn't again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777343)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 11:25 AM
Author: Alcoholic Market Hissy Fit

enjoy it while it lasts because the law shit is the easy shit, good luck generating business down the line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26777361)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:13 PM
Author: hairraiser azure international law enforcement agency persian

your mistake is that you think it's a problem that you don't know anything. it's not a problem to not know your job is to find it out.

think about how you would find it out. Then find it out. If you're totally off base someone will tell you and you'll do differently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26780026)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 6:36 PM
Author: Flirting kitchen party of the first part

this is entirely correct

if you don't know how to prepare a type of doc, ask some midlevels if they have any precedent docs. As you prepare types of docs, build your own precedent library (keeping precedents people send you) so you never ask twice

if you don't know law, your job is to learn it. It is OK if you have to spend several hours reading a treatise before you dive into the specific issue.

if you don't understand your instructions/know what to do next, then ask the next senior person. Best way to do this is to come with your own idea of what to do next, and then when you speak to senior, you're like "the current situation is X, so I was thinking Y is best course of action, do you agree?" or something. Or, alternatively, just do the next thing and discuss with senior after you're done (caveat - if next step is to talk/send something to client or other outside party, always ask first)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26780179)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 8:22 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy shrine

180 advice

Even for us gov't drones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26924836)



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Date: November 23rd, 2014 8:50 PM
Author: 180 startled church

Yes.

Also, remember that everyone knows you're a first year and that you don't know anything - don't stress that you don't know things that you couldn't possibly be expected to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26781248)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 12:41 PM
Author: Stubborn razzle-dazzle jewess plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26922467)



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Date: December 13th, 2014 9:29 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted clear digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#26925188)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: ultramarine domesticated keepsake machete

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2153920&forum_id=2#40543630)