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Why is this language in demand all of a sudden? How long wil...
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Not sure what this means.
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ruby's been big for a while..it'll stick around, along with ...
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I saw a Ruby on Rails class on skillshare. That one class al...
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get a job on the Hill
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Is this some meme? Sorry, man. I'm kinda dumb.
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Super in-demand in silicon valley, high demand in nyc as wel...
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I'm trying to get there from zero. It looks like I have t...
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With programming I kind of see it like this blog post: http:...
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Wow, I was grasping at straws and wasn't expecting a detaile...
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zero work history like literally zero work history? you'...
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I meant work history related to programming, web development...
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Look up graduates of Dev Bootcamp on Angellist or linkedin. ...
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How do I best get connected with a mentor if I'm brand new t...
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Unlike law and autoadmit, Ruby on Rails is one of the friend...
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By the way, this is exactly the kind of advice I was looking...
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this is a great course. can't believe it isn't more popular ...
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this refers to doing coke with hookers right
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oh, look. paying $90K for a programmer without experience or...
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That's what gets me, too. At the moment, there seem to be co...
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lol brother. i'm just joking. i don't know WTF i'm talking a...
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It's popular because it's good for prototyping first generat...
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High demand. Startups like it because it's widely known and ...
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Every lame hipster faggot startup uses RoR. Just read Hacker...
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so you really only need to take a 12 week class before getti...
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I'm skeptical as well, but the employment rate out of Dev Bo...
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ITE 40k would be amazing for a two month course
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Don't most of those dudes come in with prior programming exp...
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I think most of those bros command higher salaries. For exam...
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Crazy. I really need to get on that programming TIP
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Of fucking course
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ruby on rails is fucking garbage
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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:06 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

Why is this language in demand all of a sudden? How long will it take for the market to be saturated?

Should I even bother getting started?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777731)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:10 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:11 AM
Author: yapping bat shit crazy boiling water

you should gun for a job on the hill bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777762)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:12 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

Not sure what this means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777774)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:13 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Flushed Tattoo Set

ruby's been big for a while..it'll stick around, along with python.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777782)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:19 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

I saw a Ruby on Rails class on skillshare. That one class alone has 2000 students.

At this point, is it even worth the effort to learn it? Shit, I'm trying to put food on the table.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777823)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:27 AM
Author: yapping bat shit crazy boiling water

get a job on the Hill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777902)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:28 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

Is this some meme? Sorry, man. I'm kinda dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777911)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:33 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: umber senate quadroon

Super in-demand in silicon valley, high demand in nyc as well. AirBnB, Dropbox, etc all pay ~$90k base for entry level engineers - basically smart guys with some basic CS experience.

Rails is the bread and butter framework of many internet technology companies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778136)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:05 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

I'm trying to get there from zero.

It looks like I have to learn this stuff, create a portfolio of projects, then market myself. What else should I be learning along with Ruby and RoR?

Also, how do I get plugged into contract work, if that's easier to come by?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778152)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:15 AM
Author: umber senate quadroon

With programming I kind of see it like this blog post: http://sivers.org/kimo/

There is no speed limit to what you can learn up to a pretty good level.

Things that can teach you faster:

1. Regimented fast-paced classes, whether it's that skillshare class or dev bootcamp which costs $10k+

2. Clear project to work on. Don't make it too complicated.

3. Get a real life mentor, someone who can pair with you

You won't be able to get contract work until you have a portfolio or work history.

Learn HTML/CSS along with RoR as Rails is a full stack framework and design wins you far more brownie points than code quality when you're showing off items in your portfolio.

This is one of the lesser known Rails tutorials out there but I personally think it's one of the best. He's really good at explaining some of the more difficult programming concepts for first-timers.

http://schneems.com/ut-rails

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778206)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:22 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

Wow, I was grasping at straws and wasn't expecting a detailed quality response. Thanks a lot for that.

Learn Ruby/RoR + HTML + CSS, then? I'm expecting to put hard work into learning this. I put in 10 hours today into Ruby and it wasn't too bad. My brain's a little fried, but I'm fine after hitting the gym. I think I can do 8 hr days on my free days.

Coming from zero work history, what would you recommend as a systematic approach for learning and job hunting? What should I do once I have a reasonable portfolio? I guess it helps that I'm in NY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778241)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: Arousing Kink-friendly Toilet Seat Menage

zero work history

like literally zero work history? you've NEVER worked a regular job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778278)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

I meant work history related to programming, web development, or anything having to do with computers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778292)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:53 AM
Author: umber senate quadroon

Look up graduates of Dev Bootcamp on Angellist or linkedin. Find their portfolios. You should at a minimum have something as advanced as their work to show off.

On a technical level that'd mean:

1. Really polished front end work (hence CSS + HTML), usually built on top of Twitter bootstrap framework (no need to reinvent all your CSS from scratch)

2. User authentication, signup, permissions scheme in place

3. Some kind of API integration of another service. Integrate facebook, fedex, twilio, etc. whatever suits the business of your app.

4. Enough functionality in an application, probably ~10ish models will let you build something like a basic pinterest clone

You'd probably have a decent starting shot with that.

Above all get yourself a mentor - as you're developing better and better stuff your mentor may just try to recruit you to join his team or refer you to other places that are hiring.

Job interview you'd probably want to study a bit for too -- you might get a few general CS questions that are probably good to study up on. Ultimately even high level frameworks like Rails fit into some pretty general CS theory buckets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778383)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 2:00 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

How do I best get connected with a mentor if I'm brand new to this and have no connections to the industry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778412)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 2:46 AM
Author: umber senate quadroon

Unlike law and autoadmit, Ruby on Rails is one of the friendliest communities around.

Go to meetup.com and search Ruby. In NYC you can find everything from monthly talks at Pivotal labs to Ruby Hack nights. All of these events usually have free food and beer. Go and make friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778476)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:33 AM
Author: Navy halford base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778636)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 2:19 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

By the way, this is exactly the kind of advice I was looking for, so thanks again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778444)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:31 AM
Author: abnormal turquoise liquid oxygen digit ratio

this is a great course. can't believe it isn't more popular given the shitty quality of most rails tutorials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778625)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:09 AM
Author: Crimson contagious marketing idea

this refers to doing coke with hookers right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778174)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:37 AM
Author: tripping gaping sex offender

oh, look. paying $90K for a programmer without experience or $2/hour for a very highly experienced programmer from bangladesh?

hmm. tough choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778313)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:39 AM
Author: Flatulent bbw

That's what gets me, too. At the moment, there seem to be companies willing to pay good money for Ruby on Rails programmers. But you have to wonder how long this can last. It can't be sustainable, right?

Fuck, I wish I had started earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778331)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:40 AM
Author: tripping gaping sex offender

lol brother. i'm just joking. i don't know WTF i'm talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778339)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:35 AM
Author: massive translucent private investor dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778643)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:26 AM
Author: massive translucent private investor dilemma

It's popular because it's good for prototyping first generation systems and web apps due to it's user friendly, easy to understand syntax/structure. It's extra hot in the bay because this method suits many startups well.

That said, I wouldn't fucking trust an airplane that runs on it or something more simple like a credit card transaction system. Also, it is the language of choice for hipstergrammers (hipster programmer).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778591)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:37 AM
Author: bright national security agency giraffe

High demand. Startups like it because it's widely known and easy to use.

We just moved off of RoR because of a variety of concerns about scaleability for our next project. Hiring is noticeably more tricky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778645)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:24 PM
Author: curious zombie-like address azn

Every lame hipster faggot startup uses RoR. Just read Hacker News. Hopefully it dies soon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22779709)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:52 PM
Author: glittery brunch boistinker

so you really only need to take a 12 week class before getting a 100k+ programming job? this can't be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22779842)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: Flatulent bbw

I'm skeptical as well, but the employment rate out of Dev Bootcamp and the likes has been really high. The average is closer to mid $70K, but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22780708)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:03 PM
Author: Navy halford base

ITE 40k would be amazing for a two month course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22780723)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:07 PM
Author: comical university telephone

Don't most of those dudes come in with prior programming experience?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22780740)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:11 PM
Author: Flatulent bbw

I think most of those bros command higher salaries. For example, appacademy claims 83K starting salary for graduates. I'm guessing guys with programming backgrounds get north of 83K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22780768)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 3:13 PM
Author: comical university telephone

Crazy. I really need to get on that programming TIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22780778)



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Date: March 8th, 2013 4:12 PM
Author: emerald black woman

Of fucking course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22781094)



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Date: September 20th, 2020 4:59 PM
Author: drab trip den organic girlfriend

ruby on rails is fucking garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#40955379)