Ruby on Rails question
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Date: March 8th, 2013 12:06 AM Author: Flatulent bbw
Why is this language in demand all of a sudden? How long will it take for the market to be saturated?
Should I even bother getting started?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22777731) |
Date: March 8th, 2013 1:01 AM Author: umber senate quadroon
Super in-demand in silicon valley, high demand in nyc as well. AirBnB, Dropbox, etc all pay ~$90k base for entry level engineers - basically smart guys with some basic CS experience.
Rails is the bread and butter framework of many internet technology companies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778136) |
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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:05 AM Author: Flatulent bbw
I'm trying to get there from zero.
It looks like I have to learn this stuff, create a portfolio of projects, then market myself. What else should I be learning along with Ruby and RoR?
Also, how do I get plugged into contract work, if that's easier to come by?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778152) |
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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:15 AM Author: umber senate quadroon
With programming I kind of see it like this blog post: http://sivers.org/kimo/
There is no speed limit to what you can learn up to a pretty good level.
Things that can teach you faster:
1. Regimented fast-paced classes, whether it's that skillshare class or dev bootcamp which costs $10k+
2. Clear project to work on. Don't make it too complicated.
3. Get a real life mentor, someone who can pair with you
You won't be able to get contract work until you have a portfolio or work history.
Learn HTML/CSS along with RoR as Rails is a full stack framework and design wins you far more brownie points than code quality when you're showing off items in your portfolio.
This is one of the lesser known Rails tutorials out there but I personally think it's one of the best. He's really good at explaining some of the more difficult programming concepts for first-timers.
http://schneems.com/ut-rails
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778206) |
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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:22 AM Author: Flatulent bbw
Wow, I was grasping at straws and wasn't expecting a detailed quality response. Thanks a lot for that.
Learn Ruby/RoR + HTML + CSS, then? I'm expecting to put hard work into learning this. I put in 10 hours today into Ruby and it wasn't too bad. My brain's a little fried, but I'm fine after hitting the gym. I think I can do 8 hr days on my free days.
Coming from zero work history, what would you recommend as a systematic approach for learning and job hunting? What should I do once I have a reasonable portfolio? I guess it helps that I'm in NY?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778241) |
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Date: March 8th, 2013 1:53 AM Author: umber senate quadroon
Look up graduates of Dev Bootcamp on Angellist or linkedin. Find their portfolios. You should at a minimum have something as advanced as their work to show off.
On a technical level that'd mean:
1. Really polished front end work (hence CSS + HTML), usually built on top of Twitter bootstrap framework (no need to reinvent all your CSS from scratch)
2. User authentication, signup, permissions scheme in place
3. Some kind of API integration of another service. Integrate facebook, fedex, twilio, etc. whatever suits the business of your app.
4. Enough functionality in an application, probably ~10ish models will let you build something like a basic pinterest clone
You'd probably have a decent starting shot with that.
Above all get yourself a mentor - as you're developing better and better stuff your mentor may just try to recruit you to join his team or refer you to other places that are hiring.
Job interview you'd probably want to study a bit for too -- you might get a few general CS questions that are probably good to study up on. Ultimately even high level frameworks like Rails fit into some pretty general CS theory buckets.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778383) |
Date: March 8th, 2013 1:37 AM Author: tripping gaping sex offender
oh, look. paying $90K for a programmer without experience or $2/hour for a very highly experienced programmer from bangladesh?
hmm. tough choice.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778313) |
Date: March 8th, 2013 3:26 AM Author: massive translucent private investor dilemma
It's popular because it's good for prototyping first generation systems and web apps due to it's user friendly, easy to understand syntax/structure. It's extra hot in the bay because this method suits many startups well.
That said, I wouldn't fucking trust an airplane that runs on it or something more simple like a credit card transaction system. Also, it is the language of choice for hipstergrammers (hipster programmer).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778591) |
Date: March 8th, 2013 3:37 AM Author: bright national security agency giraffe
High demand. Startups like it because it's widely known and easy to use.
We just moved off of RoR because of a variety of concerns about scaleability for our next project. Hiring is noticeably more tricky.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201076&forum_id=2#22778645) |
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