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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
Talking plaza kitty
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
Sooty abode dingle berry
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Vigorous international law enforcement agency
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
Charismatic principal's office
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
Talking plaza kitty
  03/26/13
180
Effete antidepressant drug
  04/04/14
...
brilliant gas station
  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
alcoholic trip cruise ship striped hyena
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
histrionic macaca school cafeteria
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
Talking plaza kitty
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
motley milky state
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
electric amethyst tanning salon knife
  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
stimulating ruddy sweet tailpipe halford
  04/04/14
yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unit...
House-broken base
  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
Talking plaza kitty
  03/24/13
...
chocolate party of the first part
  03/24/13
lol what
cocky lodge
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
Exciting Gaping
  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
Talking plaza kitty
  03/26/13
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dull shaky point
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
thirsty outnumbered stain sound barrier
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
Lilac volcanic crater mexican
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
Bossy Stead Cuckold
  04/30/13
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Bossy Stead Cuckold
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
Nubile Honey-headed Step-uncle's House Hominid
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
charcoal swashbuckling pit goal in life
  04/04/14
180
floppy deep gaming laptop
  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
Shimmering thriller space
  03/26/13
bump
Sooty abode dingle berry
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
carmine razzmatazz karate
  04/13/13
...
Effete antidepressant drug
  04/04/14
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
Sooty abode dingle berry
  05/05/13
easily
Mahogany Bearded Area Shitlib
  05/05/13
bump
Sooty abode dingle berry
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
lemon galvanic stage weed whacker
  06/29/13
...
Sooty abode dingle berry
  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
lavender filthy roommate dilemma
  07/03/13
killself
mind-boggling copper range marketing idea
  07/03/13
go away peter
Primrose Stock Car Mother
  07/03/13
go away peter
Primrose Stock Car Mother
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
diverse field milk
  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
dull shaky point
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
diverse field milk
  07/04/13
180
Autistic greedy casino affirmative action
  12/26/13
180
Vengeful Crotch
  03/28/14
lana del rey hth
bonkers meetinghouse
  03/28/14
Joanna Newsom or gtfo
shivering church building corn cake
  04/04/14
...
Vengeful Crotch
  04/04/14
nice poast, man
Avocado Factory Reset Button
  04/04/14
180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
shivering church building corn cake
  04/04/14
...
Wonderful Sanctuary Azn
  04/04/14
op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship
charcoal swashbuckling pit goal in life
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...
Bespoke embarrassed to the bone cumskin office
  04/04/14
...
mewling nursing home useless brakes
  09/12/15
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Mauve abusive church
  10/01/15
Fuck me I love threads like these.
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  10/01/15
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  01/10/16
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  05/27/16
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Sooty abode dingle berry
  11/14/16
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cream garrison
  11/14/16
Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel...
boyish brunch
  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
canary liquid oxygen
  11/15/16
...
canary liquid oxygen
  08/10/17
I could read these all day everyday
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beady-eyed theatre
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mewling nursing home useless brakes
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lascivious nighttime trust fund
  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
Haunting preventive strike
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: Talking plaza kitty

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Vigorous international law enforcement agency

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: Charismatic principal's office

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: Talking plaza kitty

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Effete antidepressant drug

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: brilliant gas station



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: alcoholic trip cruise ship striped hyena

Who did she break up with this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: histrionic macaca school cafeteria

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: Talking plaza kitty

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: motley milky state

What's the problem then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: electric amethyst tanning salon knife

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: stimulating ruddy sweet tailpipe halford

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: House-broken base

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: Talking plaza kitty

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: chocolate party of the first part



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: cocky lodge

lol what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Exciting Gaping

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: Talking plaza kitty

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: dull shaky point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543735)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: thirsty outnumbered stain sound barrier

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: Lilac volcanic crater mexican

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: Bossy Stead Cuckold

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Bossy Stead Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879053)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Nubile Honey-headed Step-uncle's House Hominid

I see now that you are Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: charcoal swashbuckling pit goal in life

bad read imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: floppy deep gaming laptop

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882175)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: Shimmering thriller space

one hundred and eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882306)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: carmine razzmatazz karate

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: Effete antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322979)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Mahogany Bearded Area Shitlib

easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137813)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503332)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: lemon galvanic stage weed whacker

much deserved 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528396)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: lavender filthy roommate dilemma

have a good life, millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: mind-boggling copper range marketing idea

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528471)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Primrose Stock Car Mother

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541761)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Primrose Stock Car Mother

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541762)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: diverse field milk

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: dull shaky point

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: diverse field milk

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: Autistic greedy casino affirmative action

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#24716751)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: Vengeful Crotch

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277665)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: bonkers meetinghouse

lana del rey hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: shivering church building corn cake

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: Vengeful Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321456)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: Avocado Factory Reset Button

nice poast, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: shivering church building corn cake

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: Wonderful Sanctuary Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322449)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: charcoal swashbuckling pit goal in life

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: Bespoke embarrassed to the bone cumskin office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25323175)



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Date: September 12th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: mewling nursing home useless brakes



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Date: October 1st, 2015 5:28 AM
Author: Mauve abusive church



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: hairraiser abnormal place of business

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: out-of-control stag film multi-billionaire



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:02 AM
Author: Stubborn business firm headpube



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:06 AM
Author: anal heady therapy roast beef



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Sooty abode dingle berry



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:56 PM
Author: cream garrison



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: boyish brunch

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: canary liquid oxygen

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: canary liquid oxygen



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: big personal credit line senate

I could read these all day everyday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913602)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: beady-eyed theatre



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: lascivious nighttime trust fund



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: Magical main people spot



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Date: November 3rd, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: lascivious nighttime trust fund



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Date: April 18th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: mewling nursing home useless brakes



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: lascivious nighttime trust fund



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: Haunting preventive strike

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)