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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
Sadistic Shivering Site
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
Primrose razzle depressive address
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Odious abode
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
Copper bawdyhouse partner
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
Sadistic Shivering Site
  03/26/13
180
Beady-eyed Striped Hyena
  04/04/14
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Disgusting Cruise Ship Laser Beams
  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
aphrodisiac range
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
know-it-all bat-shit-crazy resort
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
Sadistic Shivering Site
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
floppy gas station
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
tantric demanding half-breed
  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
chocolate dashing dysfunction
  04/04/14
yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unit...
motley impertinent brunch shitlib
  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
Sadistic Shivering Site
  03/24/13
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flatulent indirect expression
  03/24/13
lol what
Razzle-dazzle brindle hospital
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
swashbuckling wine roommate cuckoldry
  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
Sadistic Shivering Site
  03/26/13
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offensive deranged karate
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
Cheese-eating home affirmative action
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
brilliant church
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
awkward location really tough guy
  04/30/13
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awkward location really tough guy
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
Heady Alpha Rehab
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
Big-titted Fighting Volcanic Crater Twinkling Uncleanness
  04/04/14
180
Appetizing bossy international law enforcement agency university
  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
beta unholy school tattoo
  03/26/13
bump
Primrose razzle depressive address
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
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  04/13/13
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Beady-eyed Striped Hyena
  04/04/14
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
Primrose razzle depressive address
  05/05/13
easily
Racy Silver Main People
  05/05/13
bump
Primrose razzle depressive address
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
Vigorous anal round eye legend
  06/29/13
...
Primrose razzle depressive address
  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
Confused hunting ground
  07/03/13
killself
Yellow Base Preventive Strike
  07/03/13
go away peter
grizzly hairraiser den french chef
  07/03/13
go away peter
grizzly hairraiser den french chef
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
Domesticated claret library
  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
offensive deranged karate
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
Domesticated claret library
  07/04/13
180
at-the-ready party of the first part stain
  12/26/13
180
Slap-happy cracking immigrant
  03/28/14
lana del rey hth
Thriller apoplectic useless brakes degenerate
  03/28/14
Joanna Newsom or gtfo
pungent mother
  04/04/14
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Slap-happy cracking immigrant
  04/04/14
nice poast, man
azure stage
  04/04/14
180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
pungent mother
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...
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  04/04/14
op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship
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  10/01/15
Fuck me I love threads like these.
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  11/14/16
Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel...
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  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
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  11/15/16
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  08/10/17
I could read these all day everyday
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light useless ladyboy multi-billionaire
  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
Contagious Glassy Associate
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: Sadistic Shivering Site

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Odious abode

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: Copper bawdyhouse partner

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: Sadistic Shivering Site

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Striped Hyena

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Disgusting Cruise Ship Laser Beams



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: aphrodisiac range

Who did she break up with this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: know-it-all bat-shit-crazy resort

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: Sadistic Shivering Site

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: floppy gas station

What's the problem then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: tantric demanding half-breed

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: chocolate dashing dysfunction

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: motley impertinent brunch shitlib

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: Sadistic Shivering Site

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: flatulent indirect expression



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle brindle hospital

lol what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling wine roommate cuckoldry

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: Sadistic Shivering Site

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: offensive deranged karate



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: Cheese-eating home affirmative action

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: brilliant church

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: awkward location really tough guy

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: awkward location really tough guy



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Heady Alpha Rehab

I see now that you are Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: Big-titted Fighting Volcanic Crater Twinkling Uncleanness

bad read imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: Appetizing bossy international law enforcement agency university

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882175)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: beta unholy school tattoo

one hundred and eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882306)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: Kink-friendly pale parlor fat ankles

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Striped Hyena



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Racy Silver Main People

easily

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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address

bump

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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: Vigorous anal round eye legend

much deserved 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: Confused hunting ground

have a good life, millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: Yellow Base Preventive Strike

killself

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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: grizzly hairraiser den french chef

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541761)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: grizzly hairraiser den french chef

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541762)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: Domesticated claret library

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: offensive deranged karate

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: Domesticated claret library

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: at-the-ready party of the first part stain

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#24716751)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: Slap-happy cracking immigrant

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277665)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: Thriller apoplectic useless brakes degenerate

lana del rey hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: pungent mother

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: Slap-happy cracking immigrant



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: azure stage

nice poast, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: pungent mother

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: concupiscible step-uncle's house



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: Big-titted Fighting Volcanic Crater Twinkling Uncleanness

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Author: abnormal casino kitty



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: trip frum temple

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: bateful frisky set



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:02 AM
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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Primrose razzle depressive address



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:56 PM
Author: Chestnut sick hell



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Maniacal Police Squad

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: aquamarine lettuce cuck

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: Filthy Aqua Office Antidepressant Drug

I could read these all day everyday

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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: light useless ladyboy multi-billionaire



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: Contagious Glassy Associate

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)