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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?
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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM Author: Irate Address Alpha Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).
Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.
Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.
So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel. |
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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM Author: aromatic business firm potus "She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."
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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM Author: razzmatazz shaky windowlicker old irish cottage I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961) |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM Author: Irate Address Alpha I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.
Here's the chapter, btw.
http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434 |
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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM Author: brilliant roommate all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855) |
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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM Author: Irate Address Alpha lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907) |
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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM Author: Big copper cuckold yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968) |
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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM Author: Irate Address Alpha That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle dilemma poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988) |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM Author: Irate Address Alpha Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM Author: Laughsome Heaven I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw
She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts. |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM Author: Light haunted graveyard She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297) |
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