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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
Twinkling twisted theater
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
metal stag film
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Bistre bat shit crazy dysfunction gas station
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
Flatulent supple spot
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
Twinkling twisted theater
  03/26/13
180
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  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
Ungodly Telephone
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
salmon costumed locus messiness
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
Twinkling twisted theater
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
180 water buffalo office
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
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  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
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  04/04/14
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  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
Twinkling twisted theater
  03/24/13
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effete concupiscible ratface heaven
  03/24/13
lol what
Emerald Sneaky Criminal Reading Party
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
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  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
Twinkling twisted theater
  03/26/13
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Offensive theatre wrinkle
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
vigorous market incel
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
federal out-of-control property black woman
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
sick faggotry
  04/30/13
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sick faggotry
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
Brilliant thriller range
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
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  04/04/14
180
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  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
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  03/26/13
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metal stag film
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
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  04/13/13
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http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
metal stag film
  05/05/13
easily
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  05/05/13
bump
metal stag film
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
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  06/29/13
...
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  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
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  07/03/13
killself
mahogany hyperactive temple jewess
  07/03/13
go away peter
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  07/03/13
go away peter
Sinister Spectacular Station
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
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  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
Offensive theatre wrinkle
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
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  07/04/13
180
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  12/26/13
180
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  03/28/14
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Joanna Newsom or gtfo
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180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
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  10/01/15
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  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
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  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
Opaque Menage
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: Twinkling twisted theater

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: metal stag film

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Bistre bat shit crazy dysfunction gas station

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: Flatulent supple spot

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: Twinkling twisted theater

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: mind-boggling lay genital piercing

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: gay cerebral den round eye



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: Ungodly Telephone

Who did she break up with this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: salmon costumed locus messiness

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: Twinkling twisted theater

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: 180 water buffalo office

What's the problem then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: obsidian trump supporter space

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: French mint orchestra pit useless brakes

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: Free-loading place of business

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: Twinkling twisted theater

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: effete concupiscible ratface heaven



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Emerald Sneaky Criminal Reading Party

lol what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Talking bawdyhouse bbw

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: Twinkling twisted theater

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: Offensive theatre wrinkle



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: vigorous market incel

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: federal out-of-control property black woman

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: sick faggotry

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: sick faggotry



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Brilliant thriller range

I see now that you are Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: cocky anal azn mother

bad read imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: Motley painfully honest location coldplay fan

180

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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: Razzle fiercely-loyal plaza

one hundred and eighty

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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: metal stag film

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: Snowy Dead Rehab Boistinker

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: mind-boggling lay genital piercing



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: metal stag film

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: heady box office

easily

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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: metal stag film

bump

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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: multi-colored blue base candlestick maker

much deserved 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: metal stag film



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Police Squad

have a good life, millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: mahogany hyperactive temple jewess

killself

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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Sinister Spectacular Station

go away peter

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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: Sinister Spectacular Station

go away peter

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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: Boyish rough-skinned electric furnace national

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: Offensive theatre wrinkle

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: Boyish rough-skinned electric furnace national

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: impressive affirmative action

180

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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: transparent frisky university laser beams

180

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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: ultramarine trust fund

lana del rey hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: Cobalt mewling brunch national security agency

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: transparent frisky university laser beams



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: harsh racy rigpig

nice poast, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: Cobalt mewling brunch national security agency

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: Massive school depressive



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: cocky anal azn mother

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: irate theater stage nibblets



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Date: October 1st, 2015 5:28 AM
Author: deranged cerise dragon ceo



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: misanthropic associate

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: Contagious house-broken hell



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Author: metal stag film



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Dashing abode

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: Geriatric amethyst native persian

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Geriatric amethyst native persian



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: light razzle-dazzle pocket flask generalized bond

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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: Chest-beating business firm



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Author: Insanely creepy navy mood



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: Canary Cruise Ship Mad-dog Skullcap



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: Opaque Menage

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)