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A Retiring Chief Justice Reflects on his Term, Legacy

INSIDE THE MARBLED HALLS of the Student-Wide Judiciary (SWJ)...
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 2:14 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed

INSIDE THE MARBLED HALLS of the Student-Wide Judiciary (SWJ), at 11:30 pm on a Friday night, most would expect to find it empty, save a possible janitor sweeping the floor nearby.

But the Chief Justice is still here. He sits hunched over a worn formica desk with a laptop computer glowing in the dark, a stack of papers piled high on either side of the keyboard. His brow is furrowed. And he's listening not to music, but to spoken word.

"This is the Supreme Court's oral argument in Fisher v. University of Texas," he explains quickly. "If it renders a decision about affirmative action, it might implicate the school, and we have to be ready. It's like we're a part of the federal system."

At twenty-two years of age, one would expect this lanky, red-headed frame to be out drinking or partying, but he sees his role as far more serious than you might expect. "Justice is literally"--he pauses, breathing hotly through open lips--"literally in our hands and I can't just take that lightly."

He stands and walks to gaze out at the Buffalo campus below, the glow of spring flowers displayed under the milky street lights. He extends his pale fingertips to caress the top of a plaster bust of James Madison.

"When it's over," he murmurs to no one in particular, "I'll be remembered for what we did for InterVarsity [Christian Fellowship]. We're a system of checks and balances." He refers to the case of a religious organization that expelled one of its gay officers who refused to sign the statement of faith. After the Senate derecognized the organization, the organization appealed to SWJ, which re-recognized them. (The University later retracted SWJ's decision.)

"But," he continues, impervious to reality, "it's the truants, the delinquents, the potheads who got justice, and the assault victims who sought it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#23060448)



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Date: April 23rd, 2013 10:58 PM
Author: titillating gay wizard

To be fair,

IT'S NOT QUITE 10 AM ON A BRIGHT SATURDAY MORNING, and already three thick tomes are splayed out before him on a second-hand Ikea desk in the corner of his otherwise barren living room: "Canons of Construction: A Primer"; "An Analytical Approach To Statutory Interpretation"; and "The Case Against Originalism." He seems preoccupied as he pages through each volume in turn, searching for something that he can't quite seem to put his finger on. "I remember reading a phrase that really summed up the approach that I want to take in this opinion--I think it was Latin. I don't actually read Latin myself, but I appreciate the inherent rigor in it... there's just something to be said for invoking a principle that Abraham Lincoln might have invoked when he was practicing. A phrase that just clarifies everything that came before. That's what I always strive for. Like magic."

The Chief Justice isn't the only member of his family who seems bewitched by the possibility of a life in the law. "I think that on some level, [redacted]'s always been destined to go into the law," his mother declares as she puts a pot of water on the stove back at the modest family home in [retracted]. "I saw it in him from when he was just a boy. He never said anything to me directly until he was much older, but you didn't have to spell it out: it was clear as a crystal ball. He just had such a judicial temperament." She adds some thyme and garlic to the water and closes her eyes, murmuring something just under her breath. "And he has a very keen sense of justice--this family has suffered its share of persecution in generations past, so I think it might just be something in the blood." She sighs and continues stirring.

***

YET IN SPITE OF HIS MOTHER'S PROGNOSTICATIONS, the Chief Justice says that he's really still considering his options. "I'm certainly interested in law school," he admits, "but I haven't taken the Law School Admissions Test--colloquially known as the 'LSAT'--just yet." This raises an obvious question: Why not? He leans back in his chair and sighs deeply. "It's a lot of pressure, you know. It's... the rest of your life hangs in the balance." His eyes dart up from the floor to meet my gaze for a split second. Then he looks back down again. "I've been doing a lot of research in the meantime. On the internet. I'm really learning as much as I can. And this way I know that when I do take the LSAT, I'll be ready." He smiles. "I just always want to *know*... you know?"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#23063841)



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Date: April 23rd, 2013 11:02 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed



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Date: April 23rd, 2013 11:14 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 11:16 PM
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Date: April 24th, 2013 11:55 AM
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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:00 PM
Author: ocher judgmental dragon



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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:03 PM
Author: electric resort

"it was clear as a crystal ball."

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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: Hyperactive locale



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:13 AM
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Date: July 18th, 2013 7:18 PM
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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:36 PM
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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:42 PM
Author: canary legend hall

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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:44 PM
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Date: June 10th, 2014 4:12 PM
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Date: February 26th, 2015 2:45 PM
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Date: February 26th, 2015 4:05 PM
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Date: August 2nd, 2015 9:08 AM
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 2:19 PM
Author: greedy striped hyena

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Date: April 23rd, 2013 4:40 PM
Author: Learning disabled parlour toaster

We're not laughing WITH you... we're wishing you'd kill yourself.

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Date: April 23rd, 2013 10:35 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 11:04 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2013 11:20 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 10:35 PM
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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:21 AM
Author: Lemon slippery weed whacker

i just want to repeat: we are laughing AT you.

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Date: April 23rd, 2013 3:17 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2013 10:27 PM
Author: Ruby Mind-boggling Business Firm Ratface

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Date: April 24th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: Flesh abode

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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: ocher judgmental dragon



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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:03 PM
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Date: April 24th, 2013 12:11 PM
Author: Razzmatazz drunken death wish



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Date: April 24th, 2013 10:03 PM
Author: soul-stirring hospital

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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:09 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:09 PM
Author: electric resort



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:59 PM
Author: haunting immigrant

Good thread

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Date: June 2nd, 2013 2:36 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed



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Date: June 2nd, 2013 2:37 PM
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Date: July 18th, 2013 5:06 PM
Author: titillating gay wizard



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Date: July 18th, 2013 5:28 PM
Author: Amethyst Heady Trailer Park

oh man i lol'd

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Date: July 18th, 2013 5:31 PM
Author: Demanding office scourge upon the earth



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Date: July 18th, 2013 7:20 PM
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Date: August 11th, 2013 5:03 PM
Author: titillating gay wizard



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Date: August 12th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: slate pozpig

True scholarship.

I could FEEL the cacophony of emotion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#23825996)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: titillating gay wizard



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Author: electric resort



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Date: September 28th, 2013 11:17 PM
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Date: October 13th, 2013 5:36 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed



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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: titillating gay wizard



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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:38 PM
Author: gold provocative range jap

Lol at this LITERAL mouth breather:

"At twenty-two years of age, one would expect this lanky, red-headed frame to be out drinking or partying, but he sees his role as far more serious than you might expect. "Justice is literally"--he pauses, breathing hotly through open lips--"literally in our hands and I can't just take that lightly."

jfc

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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:42 PM
Author: slate pozpig



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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:43 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle blathering roast beef

actual lol

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Date: April 8th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: shaky trip state patrolman



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Date: June 10th, 2014 2:50 PM
Author: pungent bearded base half-breed



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Date: June 10th, 2014 4:08 PM
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Date: August 28th, 2014 11:54 PM
Author: Domesticated Set



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Date: January 22nd, 2015 9:40 PM
Author: Aquamarine Galvanic Bawdyhouse



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Date: February 26th, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: Aquamarine Galvanic Bawdyhouse



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Date: February 26th, 2015 1:26 PM
Author: irate site

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Date: February 26th, 2015 1:27 PM
Author: canary legend hall

taking all context into account it's beyond 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#27395092)



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Date: February 26th, 2015 1:28 PM
Author: at-the-ready drab wagecucks old irish cottage

my favorite part is the quick explanation, which makes you wonder if he might not have been listening to something else entirely

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Date: December 26th, 2015 2:39 PM
Author: disgusting plaza place of business



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Date: February 26th, 2015 2:19 PM
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Date: August 1st, 2015 4:47 PM
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Date: August 2nd, 2015 9:01 AM
Author: disgusting plaza place of business

OP was better but TBF had to sneak in there with his glory-hogging screed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#28460955)



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Date: August 2nd, 2015 9:21 AM
Author: Hyperactive locale

the more scholarship the merrier brother.

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Date: August 2nd, 2015 7:39 PM
Author: disgusting plaza place of business

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Date: October 12th, 2015 3:52 PM
Author: disgusting plaza place of business

"Justice is literally"--he pauses, breathing hotly through open lips--"literally in our hands and I can't just take that lightly."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2237955&forum_id=2#28952494)



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Date: October 12th, 2015 8:51 PM
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Date: May 26th, 2019 7:26 PM
Author: slate pozpig

Hall of Fame Poasting

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Date: May 26th, 2019 8:30 PM
Author: green depressive



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Date: January 22nd, 2020 9:08 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2020 2:26 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2020 2:30 PM
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