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don't want to practice law, just finished CCN 1L

so I'm pretty sure I don't want to stick this out, even thou...
Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes
  04/28/13
You sound dumb. 1. You don't know anything about practici...
Supple Impertinent Affirmative Action
  04/29/13
ug degree?
Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
Econ, Ivy
Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes
  04/28/13
HYP or cornell
Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
A non-HYP ivy.
Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes
  04/28/13
id still drop out probably
Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
Hard to tell what practicing is like just from law school. ...
Narrow-minded electric furnace
  04/28/13
curve will be harder b/c of insane transfer student guners
Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
terrible advice. practice is even worse than law school. all...
Buff Contagious Stag Film
  04/28/13
Nothing really new here but still cr as fuck
Onyx Native
  04/28/13
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Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
fuck
wonderful heaven clown
  04/28/13
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Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
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sick primrose gas station milk
  04/29/13
Credited observation.
Henna haunted graveyard
  04/29/13
Just cause many of us got fucked into doing this doesn't mea...
Cracking bearded factory reset button
  04/28/13
You're the type of person who might be able to get non-law o...
irradiated halford persian
  04/28/13
Law school is nothing like practicing law. I fucking hate...
hairraiser slap-happy location headpube
  04/28/13
yeah i was thinking that i am insane for not just going to b...
Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes
  04/28/13
Try to get a 1L firm job. You'd make $30K and get a better ...
hairraiser slap-happy location headpube
  04/28/13
a little too late for that, don't ya think, brosephino?
curious hall internal respiration
  04/28/13
Yes. I don't think in semesters anymore. I had the mindset...
hairraiser slap-happy location headpube
  04/29/13
total opposite of me, brother. i loved law school and found ...
Beady-eyed Outnumbered Gay Wizard
  04/28/13
ou are the kind of people that make law school terrible. why...
curious hall internal respiration
  04/28/13
(dweeb who must have been in the library 24/7 and enough of ...
Beady-eyed Outnumbered Gay Wizard
  04/29/13
You just said you take math classes in the evening so you ca...
silver vigorous sweet tailpipe locale
  04/29/13
i used to do this. what's wrong with it?
Lime Digit Ratio
  04/29/13
YES, DROP OUT
Buff Contagious Stag Film
  04/28/13
...
Henna haunted graveyard
  04/29/13
I've been in biglaw five years and have absolutely hated it ...
Tripping Background Story
  04/28/13
:(
wonderful heaven clown
  04/28/13
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Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/28/13
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Mewling aromatic range chad
  04/28/13
:(
lavender pontificating yarmulke locus
  04/29/13
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Histrionic Wrinkle
  11/22/14
drop out now bro
drunken puce pistol coffee pot
  04/28/13
DROP OUT NOW. am a 3l who was in a similar situation. the pa...
low-t indian lodge macaca
  04/28/13
i wanted to drop out after 1L when it became obvious that th...
drunken puce pistol coffee pot
  04/28/13
i knew i didn't want to be a lawyer sometime during first se...
Ocher Soul-stirring Sex Offender Half-breed
  04/28/13
...
drunken puce pistol coffee pot
  04/28/13
how well did you do?
ivory appetizing laser beams
  04/28/13
I knew a dude that matches you exactly. His stats, school ty...
Gaped lettuce bawdyhouse
  04/28/13
Drop out immediately. I knew I hated it, stuck with it, gues...
glittery kitty cat police squad
  04/28/13
End of line.
tan hairless business firm
  04/29/13
Do you like working 70-80 hour weeks? Or stressing over typo...
Mentally impaired nibblets
  04/28/13
I am confused from the OP whether it's 50K of debt just from...
Out-of-control Shivering Address Gunner
  04/29/13
...
Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution
  04/29/13
Actually did what you suggested. 2L year decided not to be a...
demanding sticky toaster
  04/29/13
+1 on number 2--basically what I did
Electric Green Theater
  04/29/13
tell me moar
demanding sticky toaster
  04/29/13
I would probably drop out and just chalk this up to a life e...
demanding sticky toaster
  04/29/13
That's a very small amoutn of debt. Maybe try the JD/MBA...
Insecure main people gaping
  04/29/13
He'd only be starting the MBA as a 3L. Maybe he could overlo...
demanding sticky toaster
  04/29/13
the thing is, this guy isn't going to benefit from the JD if...
titillating slippery parlour scourge upon the earth
  04/29/13
Can you backdoor into a JD/MBA at this point?
Internet-worthy principal's office
  04/29/13


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Date: April 28th, 2013 4:57 PM
Author: Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes

so I'm pretty sure I don't want to stick this out, even though I did ok first semester. I have a large scholarship and will come out with about 50K debt. should i just leave? I had a marketing career before that I think I want to go back to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095401)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:45 AM
Author: Supple Impertinent Affirmative Action

You sound dumb.

1. You don't know anything about practicing law. You think you can make a judgment on the legal career from your 1L experience????

2. I have a feeling you are gonna go thru OCI regardless of what you said here. If you end up getting a job, I am sure you will accept it while whining like a lil tool.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099130)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 4:59 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution

ug degree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095415)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:00 PM
Author: Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes

Econ, Ivy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095422)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:00 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution

HYP or cornell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095423)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:01 PM
Author: Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes

A non-HYP ivy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095434)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:02 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution

id still drop out probably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095438)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:05 PM
Author: Narrow-minded electric furnace

Hard to tell what practicing is like just from law school. I'd say stick it out bc of your scholarship. You can cop Biglaw to pay off $50k and stack some chips and just coast for a few years if you really hate it.

2L and 3L at CCN is chill bc most people are BIGLAW secure and the curve gets really easier. You can also pick your classes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095461)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:06 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution

curve will be harder b/c of insane transfer student guners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095471)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: Buff Contagious Stag Film

terrible advice. practice is even worse than law school. all of the bad parts with none of the good. just waste an extra 2 yrs and 100k and spend 3-5 yrs slaving away with SHIT life to get back to $0 net worth so you change careers at 33 bro!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23096497)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 10:58 PM
Author: Onyx Native

Nothing really new here but still cr as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097527)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 10:59 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097531)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:00 PM
Author: wonderful heaven clown

fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097535)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:13 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097619)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:58 AM
Author: sick primrose gas station milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098767)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:01 AM
Author: Henna haunted graveyard

Credited observation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098768)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:12 PM
Author: Cracking bearded factory reset button

Just cause many of us got fucked into doing this doesn't mean it's the credited path. I went to HYS and probably should've dropped out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097615)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:07 PM
Author: irradiated halford persian

You're the type of person who might be able to get non-law options with a JD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095475)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: hairraiser slap-happy location headpube

Law school is nothing like practicing law.

I fucking hated law school, especially the boring bullshit of 1L. It's like memorizing a cookbook but never cooking anything.

Being a lawyer is nothing like that shit. I'd advise you to tough it out, unless you have good job options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095477)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Aqua swashbuckling legend useless brakes

yeah i was thinking that i am insane for not just going to biz school, even if it's Dook Fookwa. i didn't land a good finance gig from u-grad recruiting so i ended up in a business development type role before coming here. id probably come out with more debt from biz school than here, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23095548)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 7:50 PM
Author: hairraiser slap-happy location headpube

Try to get a 1L firm job. You'd make $30K and get a better idea if you hate law practice, although summer associate is not much like practicing law either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23096499)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:24 PM
Author: curious hall internal respiration

a little too late for that, don't ya think, brosephino?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097656)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:55 AM
Author: hairraiser slap-happy location headpube

Yes. I don't think in semesters anymore. I had the mindset that he just got back his first semester grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099168)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Outnumbered Gay Wizard

total opposite of me, brother. i loved law school and found everything super interesting. now i'm in biglaw and my brain is turning to mush. i take online math classes just so i can think for 30 minutes or so in the evening. and the law jobs that were appealing to me during law school (mostly crim law stuff) no longer appeal to me because i'm so burnt out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097094)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:25 PM
Author: curious hall internal respiration

ou are the kind of people that make law school terrible. why does the law attract insufferables like your ilk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097659)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:04 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Outnumbered Gay Wizard

(dweeb who must have been in the library 24/7 and enough of a sucker to do a journal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098770)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:02 AM
Author: silver vigorous sweet tailpipe locale

You just said you take math classes in the evening so you can "think"ap and you're calling someone else a dweeb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099000)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:16 AM
Author: Lime Digit Ratio

i used to do this. what's wrong with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099036)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 7:48 PM
Author: Buff Contagious Stag Film

YES, DROP OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23096489)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:02 AM
Author: Henna haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098769)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:30 PM
Author: Tripping Background Story

I've been in biglaw five years and have absolutely hated it the entire time. It sucks so, so much. Really crushes the soul. Get out before it's too late.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097002)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:32 PM
Author: wonderful heaven clown

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097017)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:33 PM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097018)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:02 PM
Author: Mewling aromatic range chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097551)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 8:15 AM
Author: lavender pontificating yarmulke locus

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098808)



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Date: November 22nd, 2014 12:54 PM
Author: Histrionic Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#26771521)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:42 PM
Author: drunken puce pistol coffee pot

drop out now bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097069)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:58 PM
Author: low-t indian lodge macaca

DROP OUT NOW. am a 3l who was in a similar situation. the past two years have been hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097163)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: drunken puce pistol coffee pot

i wanted to drop out after 1L when it became obvious that the job market was cratering, but stuck it out because i didn't want to disappoint family (fucking LOL) and now i'm a shitclerk hating life in are country. get out now OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097171)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:04 PM
Author: Ocher Soul-stirring Sex Offender Half-breed

i knew i didn't want to be a lawyer sometime during first semester 1L. i should have dropped out. sticking it out, getting biglaw was a giant mistake and waste of time. now i'm 32 trying to figure out how to get back to a career that isn't law but i'm stuck.

if you're certain, i would quit now and don't look back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097560)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:10 PM
Author: drunken puce pistol coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097600)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:06 PM
Author: ivory appetizing laser beams

how well did you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097574)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:21 PM
Author: Gaped lettuce bawdyhouse

I knew a dude that matches you exactly. His stats, school type, credentials , etc.

He ended up killing himself last September.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097645)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:36 PM
Author: glittery kitty cat police squad

Drop out immediately. I knew I hated it, stuck with it, guess what I still hate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097701)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:15 AM
Author: tan hairless business firm

End of line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099031)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:37 PM
Author: Mentally impaired nibblets

Do you like working 70-80 hour weeks? Or stressing over typos in emails? Or being on call all the time? Or being called at 8pm multiple nights a week for projects due the next day? Working with gunner douchebags who like out shining their peers in their class year? If so, then biglaw is your calling.

The money is good, but keep in mind you will be in a boatload of debt and you won't see most of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23097707)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:54 AM
Author: Out-of-control Shivering Address Gunner

I am confused from the OP whether it's 50K of debt just from 1L year or that's what will accrue by graduation. CR is probably dropping out either way, but especially if OP is clocking 50K in debt each for 2L and 3L. There would be two good reasons not to drop out:

1) You will be a natural as a biglaw junior/mid-level. If you are naturally an anal perfectionist who can hyperfocus on relatively dumb work shit easily, you're a decent writer, and you have the soft skills to position yourself politically in a firm, the work will get better quickly and you will get to enjoy being good at biglaw on some level and be gratified by your success in a job that makes failures out of thousands and thousands of smart people every year. It will still suck, but it will give you a certain amount of exposure to what real work in the real world is, and you can take that and do something better. Worst case scenario you go in house as fast as possible from biglaw, and then at least you have a reasonable workload/schedule, and if you work at a decent company it might end up being interesting.

2) You are willing to hustle during 2L and 3L and find other things to do with your time that would give you a shorter route to a nonshit career path (which could be law-related, or completely non-legal). E.g. say you decide what you'd really want to do is work at start ups in SV that are making on disruptive mobile technologies. You spend the next two years basically doing as little as possible as a law student (which you would anyway as a 2L/3L at CCN who's above the median, but not in contention for LR) and you instead go find people who are doing that work and you figure out how to work for them (probably for free). If there's more than one thing you're interested in (mobile start ups, or being an agent for pro athletes, or starting a small business), you do more than one thing and quit if you genuinely made and effort to be useful and asked for training, and ended up just making copies and coffee. Instead of just being drunk and stoned and wasting all your time whining about how you ruined your 20s and maybe your life by going to law school (like the rest of us will/did) you start hustling and find something better. It's obviously much easier said than done, and I can tell you that I wasn't mature enough to do it for myself at the time when I (along with all of my friends) reached the same conclusion about a week before second semester 1L finals. But that was really dumb of me. I was sitting on a very marketable credential, I lived in a world class city full of cool shit that I could've gotten excited about instead, and I had a very deep pool of networking contacts all around me between classmates, SOs of classmates, profs, alumni who are active and actually give a shit, and all the tangentially connected people like e.g. a judge in town who helped out a lot with one of the clinics I was in. It's possible that a person trying to pursue this approach to 2L and 3L would realize that they can reach their goal more quickly if they just drop out, and if you reach that point, then do it. But that's a position of much greater strength than "I finished 1L year and law school sucks and everyone says biglaw is awful, so fuck this I'm out." The latter scenario might be good analysis, but the former gets you on track to something better more quickly IMO.

And FYI, this hustle to get a good job and then kick ass once you get it advice will apply whether or not you finish law school. But debt and wasted time are certainly important factors to consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098294)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 2:43 AM
Author: Mischievous Pale Immigrant Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098392)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 2:51 AM
Author: demanding sticky toaster

Actually did what you suggested. 2L year decided not to be a lawyer from my T1 on major scholarship with no debt. Was able to cop a related M.A. degree and network the fuck into a "JD advantage" job that I really enjoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098422)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:12 AM
Author: Electric Green Theater

+1 on number 2--basically what I did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099262)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 2:11 PM
Author: demanding sticky toaster

tell me moar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23100278)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: demanding sticky toaster

I would probably drop out and just chalk this up to a life experience. Go work for 2 years and cop an MBA which actually accelerates your marketing career.

1L from CCN with the maturity to say "it's not for me" is a positive, growth experience, especially because you're not going to be in a lot of debt. If it's what, 18K of debt to learn a major life lesson? Oh well. Not a big deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098430)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 3:14 AM
Author: Insecure main people gaping

That's a very small amoutn of debt.

Maybe try the JD/MBA? Standards are very low if you're already at the law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098480)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 3:40 AM
Author: demanding sticky toaster

He'd only be starting the MBA as a 3L. Maybe he could overload on classes and graduate in 4 full, still, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23098567)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:11 AM
Author: titillating slippery parlour scourge upon the earth

the thing is, this guy isn't going to benefit from the JD if he doesn't practice. you may have a hard time if you finish, getting into something else afterwards. i have a friend whose old man is the director of marketing for a very very prominent organization, but he was in biglaw for many years before exiting to the corporate/strategy side of this client. that's a really fucking long and difficult way to get where you want to go. you do see lawyers in non-legal management at ad agencies, entertainment companies etc but I really don't know what that path is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099017)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:05 AM
Author: Internet-worthy principal's office

Can you backdoor into a JD/MBA at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242271&forum_id=2#23099221)