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Got yelled at for sending an email to a client. FML.

Two weeks ago, a nerdy litigation partner asked me to work o...
Icy Blow'lude  05/04/13
Sorry brehlet / time to lateral
longwangpoontang  05/07/13
You're one of the worst posters in XO history. I hope you ne...
.,.,...,..,,,.,:,,:,...,:...:.:.,:..:,..\"  05/04/13
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Surf Wax AmeriPIG  05/04/13
Why?
Icy Blow'lude  05/04/13
...
Andrew "Faggot" Murrayfaggot  05/04/13
lol wtf haterade sipping mofucka, leave icy blowdude ALONE
BlueQuirk  05/07/13
...
Memph Bleek  05/07/13
shoulda brought your Roscoe
summertime nigga  05/04/13
lol this thread is delivering for me
Memph Bleek  05/07/13
...
''''"'''"'"'''  05/04/13
check your blackberry. not only are you a loose canon, but ...
Kim kardashian seeking 35USC102a rejection  05/04/13
Damn brother. I do the exact same thing as you. I'm not that...
Arredondo Special  05/04/13
Debt is around $150K. Right now I think my exit strategy is ...
potroastpony (ride the ice pony)  05/04/13
Um... Is Icy Blowlude your nighttime Tyler Durden persona or...
The Senator  05/04/13
fresh prince
jasper  05/04/13
wtf, how do you include someone else's name in the From line...
flatbush zombie  05/04/13
titcq
Racist Party Bro  05/04/13
i think NLP wanted the shit sent to him, so that he could se...
dat too pumpkin spicy  05/04/13
Cq
"""'"'"'"  05/04/13
i was just thinking it was something i've never tried before...
sealclubber  05/04/13
Yeah I don't get this either. Is OP trying to say the part...
Yeah, but on the smaller side of horsecock...  05/04/13
this was my question when reading this.
...,.....,.,.,.,...,.,..,,.,.,.,.  05/04/13
I can see this spiraling massively out of control. You ha...
Taco Corp.  05/07/13
Genuine LOL. I imagine a crowd of lawyers gathering around a...
A game of "  05/07/13
i think this is some classic howard stern reverse pwn#d big ...
PrestigeWhore  05/07/13
cq
,,,...,,......,,....  06/04/13
Good post.
.,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.  05/04/13
If he hadn't asked you to put him in the "To" line...
fall  05/04/13
Ya, if not flame you needed to man up b/c that is just not c...
LuckyPierre  05/04/13
weird flame. how can you send shit "from" the part...
..,.,..,..  05/04/13
No they can make it appear as if they sent it, too. I don't...
LuckyPierre  05/04/13
Depends on if you have "SendAs" or "Sendonbeh...
pussy smash bro  05/04/13
...
.,,..,.,,  05/04/13
Ya... Fuckup = not sending directly to an unknown partner...
LuckyPierre  05/04/13
sounds like he was a boss in hs tho amirite
,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.,  05/04/13
You don't have to rub it in :-/
potroastpony (ride the ice pony)  05/04/13
This is such a fixable issue though if you (1) first talk to...
LuckyPierre  05/04/13
I already feel like such a beta. Can't stomach the thought o...
Icy Blow'lude  05/04/13
lol not true at all. some aprtners you have to stand up to, ...
Memph Bleek  05/07/13
lol
;;;;;;...;;;;;..;;  05/04/13
Any thought to whether or not I should pay for my new 51 inc...
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  05/04/13
Get points bro. 51? Sounds like a samsung size. I hope yo...
LuckyPierre  05/04/13
I think the best response to make to this sort of abusive be...
...;.;.;...;.;.;.;...;.;.;.  05/04/13
well aren't you just one funny feminist. jezebel personified...
sydney leathers  06/04/13
...
potroastpony (ride the ice pony)  05/04/13
I'd just go in and talk to him and apologize and tell him yo...
cambra  05/04/13
Man. If you make partner can you run your mouth at him a...
Al-Refunk Bin-Liqma'ass U-Libs  05/04/13
Sounds like your job sucks if you can't email at will, breh.
BlueQuirk  05/07/13
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;::;:;;'';:::'.,:...:::;  06/03/13
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Icy Blow'lude  06/03/13
you still smoking that K2?
solace and wallace  06/03/13
Nah man. I finally found a good source for the real thing.
potroastpony (ride the ice pony)  06/03/13
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potroastpony (ride the ice pony)  06/04/13
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lester ballard humping your dead corpse  06/04/13
Should've told him you aren't his wife and too watch his fuc...
........,.,.,.,,,,,,,.....,  06/04/13
Those don't sound like clients we would like to have.
,,,...,,......,,....  06/04/13
That flame can only be done in 2 threads a year, Bro.
Idris Esquire  06/04/13
what kind of retarded client only accepts shit from the part...
Dsummertime Unchained  06/04/13


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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:08 AM
Author: Icy Blow'lude

Two weeks ago, a nerdy litigation partner asked me to work on a private equity investment for one of his clients. Simple enough, right? Iím a fifth-year associate and regarded as a competent transactional attorney. Iím not the class rock star, but Iíve been told Iím ďvery much in the hunt for partnership.Ē

Sounds exciting, but being in the hunt actually makes your life worse because you have to care what partners think of you. In other words, you have to make partners like you. And if they donít? Well, you have to obsess over the fact they donít like you and then do everything in your power to change their minds. Even when theyíre dicks. Even when they scream at you for ďCC-ingĒ them on an email rather than including them in the ďFromĒ line. Thatís right, Nerdy Litigation partner yelled at me like I was his prison bitch because I didnít include his name in the goddamn ďFromĒ line.

ďThis is reckless and thoughtless behavior!Ē he said, his tiny jaw twitching with petulance.

Here are the facts: Last Wednesday, I sent a draft term sheet to the client and CC-ed Nerdy Litigation Partner. Itís the kind of thing I do twenty times a day. I didnít even think twice about it. Call me crazy, but thatís how I roll. Ten minutes later, NLP was in my office yelling.

ďYou donít CC me. Understand?!Ē

ďIím sorry,Ē I said. I know, Iím a pussy. But Iím in the hunt. What am I supposed to do, ruin my career? But NLP didnít give a ratís ass about my apology.

ďEvery single piece of correspondence that goes to this client comes from me. Got it?! Ē

I just looked at him. My heart was thumping. If we were in high school, I would have already thrown my first punch.

ďIím not sure I understand,Ē I said, with an deferential faux confusion associates in the hunt employ when asshole partners are screaming at them for no reason.

ďThe client needs to know that Iím integrally involved in this transaction and not just overseeing some junior associateís work product. Understand now, or was that too abstract for you?! Ē

I didnít respond. I just stared at him, until he walked out.

Hereís the worst part: NLP is actually kind of important and now he hates me. He told an associate friend of mine the next day that I was a ďloose cannon.Ē

A loose fucking cannon?! Really?! Because of a stupid CC! Really?! Just thinking about this makes me insane! Iíve worked my ass off for five years, and this petty son of a bitch is going to compromiseóor flat out ruinómy chance at partner over this!?

If I didnít have a fat student loan tab, I would have kicked his chubby ass right then and there. (Yes, Iím exaggerating. A little. And yes, Iím angry as hell and completely irrational. You would be too, if you were in the hunt and some d-bag called you out for something so petty.)

Itís times like these that Iím really glad I went to a top-five school, made law review and billed 2100 hours a year for the past five years. Now I suppose that the only good news about no longer being in the hunt is that I donít have to care what assholes like NLP think of me anymore. So in a way, this whole Cc debacle was a victory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131737)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: longwangpoontang

Sorry brehlet / time to lateral

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150466)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:11 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,,,.,:,,:,...,:...:.:.,:..:,..\"

You're one of the worst posters in XO history. I hope you never discover a truly painless suicide method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131744)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:11 AM
Author: Surf Wax AmeriPIG



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131745)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:12 AM
Author: Icy Blow'lude

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131746)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:15 AM
Author: Andrew "Faggot" Murrayfaggot ( )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132259)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:48 AM
Author: BlueQuirk

lol wtf haterade sipping mofucka, leave icy blowdude ALONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150470)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:51 AM
Author: Memph Bleek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150497)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 8:58 AM
Author: summertime nigga

shoulda brought your Roscoe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131938)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:52 AM
Author: Memph Bleek

lol this thread is delivering for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150499)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:10 AM
Author: ''''"'''"'"'''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131960)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:10 AM
Author: Kim kardashian seeking 35USC102a rejection

check your blackberry. not only are you a loose canon, but you have a misplaced comma in this email you sent me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131961)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:11 AM
Author: Arredondo Special (Scandinavian Hunter / f/k/a Circuit City Special)

Damn brother. I do the exact same thing as you. I'm not that familiar with Outlook, but if the client responds, will the partner get the response from the client? So in other words, will the CC-ed people get the response?

Your partner sounds like some douche I used to work for. He would get irritated over the smallest fucking things. Whenever I had put a section symbol, I always needed to put a non-breaking space. I once forgot to put a non-breaking space, and he flipped out as if I completely botched the job. These guys are insufferable, and likely projecting their inner frustration or insecurities onto you.

What is your exit strategy? How much debt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131963)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:07 AM
Author: potroastpony (ride the ice pony)

Debt is around $150K. Right now I think my exit strategy is to buy a food truck or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132222)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 3:56 PM
Author: The Senator

Um... Is Icy Blowlude your nighttime Tyler Durden persona or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133692)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:18 AM
Author: jasper

fresh prince

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131980)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:45 AM
Author: flatbush zombie (ggtp)

wtf, how do you include someone else's name in the From line? flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132041)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:51 AM
Author: Racist Party Bro

titcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132057)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:10 AM
Author: dat too pumpkin spicy

i think NLP wanted the shit sent to him, so that he could send it to the client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132238)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: """'"'"'"

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132459)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: sealclubber

i was just thinking it was something i've never tried before and it was possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132690)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:01 PM
Author: Yeah, but on the smaller side of horsecock...

Yeah I don't get this either.

Is OP trying to say the partner was MAF that he didn't send it to the partner for review before it goes to the client?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132806)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:04 PM
Author: ...,.....,.,.,.,...,.,..,,.,.,.,.

this was my question when reading this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132827)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:57 AM
Author: Taco Corp.

I can see this spiraling massively out of control.

You have received an e-mail from 33 people. Would you like to reply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150535)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: A game of "

Genuine LOL. I imagine a crowd of lawyers gathering around a desktop comp all contributing to an email.

"Dear Frank, we all decided to write this...."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150870)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: PrestigeWhore

i think this is some classic howard stern reverse pwn#d big willie style or however it went

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150902)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 6:20 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23330472)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:55 AM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.

Good post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132067)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:00 AM
Author: fall

If he hadn't asked you to put him in the "To" line instead of the "CC" line beforehand, that's a shitty move on his part and you should call him out. Just tell him next time you do something wrong, he should tell you so you can correct it going forward instead of yelling at you for not being able to predict what will rile him up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132078)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:24 AM
Author: LuckyPierre

Ya, if not flame you needed to man up b/c that is just not common practice.

I woulda sent the TS to him first though for a review before send to client and if he wanted to fwd and pass it off on his own fine enough.

At my firm like only secretarys had access to the partners inbox and can send emails "From" them --- associates don't. I know a few partners who have them do that but its always routine shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132116)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:29 AM
Author: ..,.,..,..

weird flame. how can you send shit "from" the partner? when secretaries do that, doesn' it say like "from X, on behalf of Y"? I didn't even know it was possible to send shit "from" other people. how can that be? obviously partners dont want you to be able to send shit from their account. makes no fucking sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132123)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:31 AM
Author: LuckyPierre

No they can make it appear as if they sent it, too. I don't know how. But ya its fucked up yo. The best part is they also can see the inbox, and I've cozied up to a few secys and got some neat email gossip.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132125)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:17 AM
Author: pussy smash bro

Depends on if you have "SendAs" or "Sendonbehalfof" permissions

i'm in IT and it seems to me like giving associates SendAs permissions to partners' mailboxes would be a massive compliance no-no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132266)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:43 AM
Author: .,,..,.,,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132144)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:55 AM
Author: LuckyPierre

Ya...

Fuckup = not sending directly to an unknown partner outside of practice group for review before sending to client. But no biggie because that is what you do in your world.

Failed test = cowering, esp to a litigator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132181)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:07 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.,

sounds like he was a boss in hs tho amirite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132226)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:08 AM
Author: potroastpony (ride the ice pony)

You don't have to rub it in :-/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132231)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:13 AM
Author: LuckyPierre

This is such a fixable issue though if you (1) first talk to your group leader and explain and tell him you want to make amends with lit partner (2) go to lit partner and talk it out and apologise or whatever smooths his feathers.

(1) is important so your back is covered.

If you want to make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132252)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: Icy Blow'lude

I already feel like such a beta. Can't stomach the thought of approaching NLP with my tail between my legs. :-/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132440)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:55 AM
Author: Memph Bleek

lol not true at all. some aprtners you have to stand up to, some p[artners you MUST NOT stand up to. If youve worked in biglaw I'd be shocked if you've never encountered a partner of the second variety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150517)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:50 AM
Author: ;;;;;;...;;;;;..;;

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132165)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:36 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege

Any thought to whether or not I should pay for my new 51 inch plasma TV on my Amex or go with debit card?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132680)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: LuckyPierre

Get points bro. 51? Sounds like a samsung size. I hope you are getting the F8500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133022)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:54 PM
Author: ...;.;.;...;.;.;.;...;.;.;.

I think the best response to make to this sort of abusive behavior is just to stay quiet and subtly make the "unimpressed" face at them: http://www.arteworks.biz/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/unimpressed.jpg

The fun is wondering if they'll catch on.

Then at the end of the tirade just say "understood" crisply and try to dart off like a busy bee with someplace to go. No admission that you've done anything wrong (you haven't), but still acting pretty blandly unobjectionable. For extra points, try to throw in something randomly obsequious, like a bow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132762)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 2:26 AM
Author: sydney leathers ( )

well aren't you just one funny feminist. jezebel personified. i like how you had to explain the punchline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327726)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 3:54 PM
Author: potroastpony (ride the ice pony)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133677)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 4:03 PM
Author: cambra

I'd just go in and talk to him and apologize and tell him you'll do it his way moving forward.

There's no need to worry about this more than an apology and moving on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133720)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Al-Refunk Bin-Liqma'ass U-Libs ( )

Man.

If you make partner can you run your mouth at him and tell him to lick your balls when you do?

Also seems like a lot of these dudes are just power tripping cause they would have gotten their ass beat talking like that to anyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23134345)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: BlueQuirk

Sounds like your job sucks if you can't email at will, breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150568)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:57 PM
Author: ;::;:;;'';:::'.,:...:::;



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325735)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:56 PM
Author: Icy Blow'lude



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325719)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:58 PM
Author: solace and wallace

you still smoking that K2?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325744)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:58 PM
Author: potroastpony (ride the ice pony)

Nah man. I finally found a good source for the real thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325749)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:17 AM
Author: potroastpony (ride the ice pony)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327472)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: lester ballard humping your dead corpse (civ)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327777)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:34 AM
Author: ........,.,.,.,,,,,,,.....,

Should've told him you aren't his wife and too watch his fucking tone.

Also, his concern about the email always coming from his is TCR. Some clients demand this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23328255)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 6:25 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

Those don't sound like clients we would like to have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23330484)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:16 PM
Author: Idris Esquire (Boomer asking, "Have you tried USAJOBs?")

That flame can only be done in 2 threads a year, Bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23331992)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:18 PM
Author: Dsummertime Unchained

what kind of retarded client only accepts shit from the partner? You realize that just runs up the bill right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23332002)