B1G Academics: Flame?
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:56 PM Author: irradiated kitty cat
If you ever watch college sports or read about conference realignment, you can’t miss the inevitable fawning over the Big 10’s “sterling academic prowess” or some shit like that. Sounds to me like complete flame. Not from that part of the world, but my impression is that NW and Michigan are strong, Wisconsin is alright, Purdue is solid for STEM, Michigan State is TTTT, and everything else is meh at best.
Way off base, Midwesterners?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154000)
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:58 PM Author: Marvelous awkward chapel
Not Midwesterner, but the Big 10 land grant schools have been historically some of the best. Even Minnesota or Indiana have some really strong programs, even if they are not prestigious schools.
As overall universities, NU, Mich, Wisc, Illinois are pretty strong. They have a ton of top grad programs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154011) |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:33 PM Author: provocative navy business firm
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
No
The only one of these anyone ever turns down for Northwestern is Cornot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154844) |
Date: May 7th, 2013 10:48 PM Author: Supple Gaming Laptop National
Northwestern is ivy level
Mich, Wisco, Illinois, PSU, OSU and (soon to be) Maryland are all fairly well respected state flagships where nobody's really ashamed to go
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154450) |
Date: May 7th, 2013 11:02 PM Author: Boyish Menage Tattoo
NW is elite
UM and UW usually float around the lower t25-higher t50
Iowa has a great creative writing program but little else
Penn State gives students the opportunity to Wite-Out the "State" on their diplomas and claim to have gone to Wharton
Isn't Purdue decent for engineering? They have ugly girls, so there must be smart kids there.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154563)
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:15 PM Author: racy zombie-like parlour
Cr.
NW us its own class.
UM and UW are the next tier.
UI is just below.
The rest have some good programs but the rest are trash
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23154689) |
Date: May 8th, 2013 12:43 AM Author: Glassy skinny woman
All of them sans Nebraska belong to the AAU.
Which basically means they are all big research schools. Outside of that not sure they care much about academics.
Ideally if they add it would be another SAY school
Though a non research focused but strong academic school like ND would be easily accepted, not that it'll ever happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23155326)
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:06 AM Author: concupiscible crusty pozpig wrinkle
B1G academics as a whole are clearly the best of all the big conferences. Obviously, if you don't like sports and are some aspie nerd, then go Ivy or to some aspie lib arts school like Amherst.
Compare Big 10 to any other big conference. Its the only conference that doesn't have straight up community colleges in it, unlike SEC or Pac 10.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23155422) |
Date: May 8th, 2013 9:18 AM Author: Vermilion dingle berry
I would say that at the top levels, the ACC dominates the B1G. For the top spot, Duke is at least NW’s equal if not its better. Michigan is a Top 5 public, but so are both UVA and UNC. I would take Ga. Tech over Illinois or Purdue for STEM. B1G has zero answer for the ACC’s small but reasonably prestigious private schools (BC, Wake Forest, and now ND).
Top to bottom, though, possible small advantage B1G. ACC has no less than 3 cowschools (NC State, Va. Tech, Clemson). Miami, Pitt, and Syracuse are meh. FSU has hot girls and good sports but is inarguably a TTT. Louisville is a TTTTT.
Discuss.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23156612)
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Date: May 8th, 2013 3:21 PM Author: Vermilion dingle berry
Yes, but if you combined them into one superconference, the Top 10 would be something like this.
1. Duke
2. NW
3. UVA
4. Michigan
5. UNC
6. BC
7. Wake Forest
8. Notre Dame
9. Wisconsin
10. Georgia Tech
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23158612) |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:51 PM Author: Marvelous awkward chapel
Literally unable to name all ACC schools due to realignment
Do agree with your assessment about top-to-bottom
One of the Big 10's strengths is that, Nebraska excluded, the "bottom" schools are still relatively strong. Indiana and Minnesota rank towards the bottom end but they have some elite programs
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23159306) |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 11:08 PM Author: bespoke misunderstood lay electric furnace
We're talking AAU level here. These are the kind of rankings that matter:
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012
ND isn't really in the ACC until it's a full member, including football.
PSU/Illinois are definitely on par with GT/Wisconsin.
They might have huge student bodies, but a school like Illinois has 8,000 engineering undergrads that all go to a top 5 ranked program. That beats the shit out of BC or WFU that I can't even tell you what good programs they might have.
BC/WF? Get the fuck out of here.
And at the bottom rungs, let's not even get started. NCSU and Louisville? Nigger, please.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23161915) |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 11:55 PM Author: Vermilion dingle berry
I will concede with no argument that NC State is absolute garbage. I've lived in NC. Mentally retarded kids that I knew growing up did well there. Louisville is probably worse. But the top ACC murders the top Big 10. Duke > NW. UVA > Michigan. UNC > anyone but NW and Michigan.
ND is more ACC than it will ever be B1G. Very weak argument that football is required. Certainly, if football is required, the assholes claiming that University of Chicago is B1G (see above) are wrong.
Penn State is a fucking sprawling public TTT in an ugly, cold, grey, shitty piece of shit state with 96,000 students that also harbors child molesters. Wake and BC beat the living shit out of it. I have trouble thinking of a bigger piece of shit academic institution than Penn State.
I will give you that Illinois is solid, especially in STEM.
The bottom of the B1G isn't pretty either. Nebraska and Michigan State are true TTT trashholes. Indiana doesn't exactly bring much heat.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23162265) |
Date: May 8th, 2013 9:44 AM Author: Twisted Lilac Heaven
Some of the Big 10 schools are well-respected academically, particularly in certain hard science fields.
On the other hand, I know way too many dumb kids who ended up at IU, UW, etc. to have any respect for their undergrad populations. At my high school, these were the types of schools that were targeted by the bottom 1/3 of the class. Michigan was probably the most competitive state school to get into, and I know some pretty sharp kids who went there. Northwestern is an outlier private school - I consider it the Vandy of the Big 10 and not representative of the conference.
Among savvy laypeople, NW and UMich have the most prestige and can be included in the list of acceptable schools for a top high school student. Certain dep'ts like Illinois engineering should also be included in that list. But the rest of the schools for the most part are huge factories with mediocre profs and students.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23156694) |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:44 PM Author: Marvelous awkward chapel
How was Newton South or Stuyvesant?
And more importantly, how was the University of Michigan?
OOS Michigan kids are rejects from everywhere else. And there's almost no functional difference between a Michigan UG and Wisconsin UG
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23157948) |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 10:12 AM Author: Twisted Lilac Heaven
Went to private HS and Ivy undergrad. Nice try though.
You're way off on Michigan v. Wisconsin. The SAT combined range at Michigan is several hundred points higher than UW. UM isn't the H of the midwest but it's a harder school to get into than UW and has a better all-around reputation.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2250009&forum_id=2#23164017)
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