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B1G Academics: Flame?
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:56 PM
Way off base, Midwesterners?
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:58 PM
As overall universities, NU, Mich, Wisc, Illinois are pretty strong. They have a ton of top grad programs. |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:59 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 9:59 PM
Obviously the Big 10 doesn't have IVY level UG prestige. But as a conference they are strong schools. |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:31 PM
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:33 PM
No
The only one of these anyone ever turns down for Northwestern is Cornot. |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:12 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:06 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:31 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:33 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 10:17 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 5:16 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:23 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:42 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:10 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 10:56 AM
Go Blue! |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 12:01 AM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:30 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:43 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:44 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:08 AM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:48 PM
Mich, Wisco, Illinois, PSU, OSU and (soon to be) Maryland are all fairly well respected state flagships where nobody's really ashamed to go |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 10:58 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:28 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 10:53 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 10:58 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:47 PM
Also, I know they have like 10 other campuses in SPS cities. If the folks who go to those other schools get aggregated into stats, it makes the school look worse, I think. (Actually, same can be said for most B1G schools. I know at least Purdue and Indiana are the same.) Any tOSU grads on here? |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:29 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:02 PM UM and UW usually float around the lower t25-higher t50 Iowa has a great creative writing program but little else Penn State gives students the opportunity to Wite-Out the "State" on their diplomas and claim to have gone to Wharton Isn't Purdue decent for engineering? They have ugly girls, so there must be smart kids there.
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:09 PM |
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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:15 PM
NW us its own class. UM and UW are the next tier. UI is just below. The rest have some good programs but the rest are trash |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 5:18 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 12:43 AM
Which basically means they are all big research schools. Outside of that not sure they care much about academics.
Ideally if they add it would be another SAY school
Though a non research focused but strong academic school like ND would be easily accepted, not that it'll ever happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities
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Date: May 8th, 2013 2:33 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:06 AM
Compare Big 10 to any other big conference. Its the only conference that doesn't have straight up community colleges in it, unlike SEC or Pac 10. |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:21 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:23 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 9:54 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:41 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 9:18 AM
Top to bottom, though, possible small advantage B1G. ACC has no less than 3 cowschools (NC State, Va. Tech, Clemson). Miami, Pitt, and Syracuse are meh. FSU has hot girls and good sports but is inarguably a TTT. Louisville is a TTTTT.
Discuss.
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Date: May 8th, 2013 2:34 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 3:21 PM
1. Duke 2. NW 3. UVA 4. Michigan 5. UNC 6. BC 7. Wake Forest 8. Notre Dame 9. Wisconsin 10. Georgia Tech |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:04 PM
BC and WFU are at the bottom with GT |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:33 PM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 4:51 PM
Do agree with your assessment about top-to-bottom
One of the Big 10's strengths is that, Nebraska excluded, the "bottom" schools are still relatively strong. Indiana and Minnesota rank towards the bottom end but they have some elite programs |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 11:08 PM
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012
ND isn't really in the ACC until it's a full member, including football. PSU/Illinois are definitely on par with GT/Wisconsin.
They might have huge student bodies, but a school like Illinois has 8,000 engineering undergrads that all go to a top 5 ranked program. That beats the shit out of BC or WFU that I can't even tell you what good programs they might have.
BC/WF? Get the fuck out of here.
And at the bottom rungs, let's not even get started. NCSU and Louisville? Nigger, please. |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 11:55 PM
ND is more ACC than it will ever be B1G. Very weak argument that football is required. Certainly, if football is required, the assholes claiming that University of Chicago is B1G (see above) are wrong.
Penn State is a fucking sprawling public TTT in an ugly, cold, grey, shitty piece of shit state with 96,000 students that also harbors child molesters. Wake and BC beat the living shit out of it. I have trouble thinking of a bigger piece of shit academic institution than Penn State.
I will give you that Illinois is solid, especially in STEM.
The bottom of the B1G isn't pretty either. Nebraska and Michigan State are true TTT trashholes. Indiana doesn't exactly bring much heat. |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 6:23 PM |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 10:39 AM |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 11:51 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 9:44 AM
On the other hand, I know way too many dumb kids who ended up at IU, UW, etc. to have any respect for their undergrad populations. At my high school, these were the types of schools that were targeted by the bottom 1/3 of the class. Michigan was probably the most competitive state school to get into, and I know some pretty sharp kids who went there. Northwestern is an outlier private school - I consider it the Vandy of the Big 10 and not representative of the conference.
Among savvy laypeople, NW and UMich have the most prestige and can be included in the list of acceptable schools for a top high school student. Certain dep'ts like Illinois engineering should also be included in that list. But the rest of the schools for the most part are huge factories with mediocre profs and students. |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 1:44 PM
And more importantly, how was the University of Michigan?
OOS Michigan kids are rejects from everywhere else. And there's almost no functional difference between a Michigan UG and Wisconsin UG |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 10:12 AM
You're way off on Michigan v. Wisconsin. The SAT combined range at Michigan is several hundred points higher than UW. UM isn't the H of the midwest but it's a harder school to get into than UW and has a better all-around reputation.
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Date: May 8th, 2013 10:47 AM |
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Date: May 8th, 2013 11:13 PM |
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Date: May 9th, 2013 12:08 AM
Rate the kids from St Ignatius |