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Date: May 27th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Free-loading Senate Gunner
How are these people anything other than crazy? Not saying they can't get help or they don't deserve sympathy but someone who wants to mutilate their body and inject hormones seems crazy.
All the libs I hear talking about trannies insist they aren't crazy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277316) |
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Date: May 27th, 2013 10:50 AM Author: Cracking Sienna Abode Rigpig
And just because we haven't seen proof that faeries exist doesn't mean that they aren't real. As for your other point, transgender surgery is the only available "cure" for most forms of gender dysphoria. Additionally, my point was that the government should help people who are tg because they are born with their problem. I think the same thing is true of individuals with schizophrenia.
"Hormonal differences
In rare cases, the hormones that trigger the development of sex and gender may not work properly on the brain, gonads and genitals, causing variations between them. For example, the biological sex (as determined physically by the gonads and genitals) could be male, while the gender identity (as determined by the brain) could be female.
This could be caused by additional hormones in the mother’s system, or by the foetus’s insensitivity to the hormones, known as androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS). In this way, gender dysphoria may be caused by hormones not working properly within the womb.
See androgen insensitivity syndrome for more information about this condition.
Other rare conditions
Other rare conditions, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), and intersex conditions (also known as hermaphroditism) may also result in gender dysphoria.
In CAH, the adrenal glands (two small, triangular-shaped glands located above the kidneys) in a female foetus cause a high level of male hormones to be produced. This enlarges the female genitals. In some cases, they may be so enlarged that the baby is thought to be biologically male when she is born.
Intersex conditions cause babies to be born with the genitalia of both sexes (or ambiguous genitalia). In such cases, it used to be recommended that the child’s parents should choose which gender to bring up their child as. However, it is now thought to be better to wait until the child can choose their own gender identity before any surgery is carried out to confirm it.
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http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dysphoria/Pages
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277394)
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Date: May 27th, 2013 11:13 AM Author: Trip Spot Hissy Fit
I don't know how much anyone's paying for their surgeries. I don't know how much those surgeries are necessary/helpful for what you admit is a mental condition if not precisely an illness in all cases. I don't know how "forced" you are to recognize them in any real capacity or what rights you must give them. I don't know what kind of shit is being fed to 2nd graders. The 2nd graders I know have never brought it up, they're usually into nerf guns and baseball.
Thus, I don't have a strong opinion on this shit because it doesn't affect me in the slightest.
If it's a mental illness it's probably not contagious and I don't think you have to worry that much about it. Before these people were openly, perhaps happily trans, they were antisocial weirdos wearing ladies underwear and shit, you just didn't have Drudge putting them on blast all the time or whatever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277475) |
Date: May 27th, 2013 10:33 AM Author: Trip Spot Hissy Fit
I don't really have any strong position on them.
I do think they should have the right to do what they wanna do to themselves.
I don't know that the government should get too involved in legislating how private parties act regarding trannies, although I think the case could be made re things like housing discrimination--but forcing employers to deal with this shit is obviously a different animal.
Is there anything particular libs have actually legislated that you're MAF about, brother?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277343) |
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Date: May 27th, 2013 10:48 AM Author: Trip Spot Hissy Fit
I don't know wtf 'lib media' you're into, but in my life I don't think I ever run into this. Maybe I saw a link once to a college newspaper somewhere, or jezebel, but those are niche sites written by poor idiots that no one takes seriously or even reads.
Further, what do you mean 'recognize'? What are you legally obligated to do, nothing? You're just MAF the lib media makes you feel like you are supposed to call a hormone-therapy dude living as a woman a woman?
That's kinda weird.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277388) |
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Date: May 27th, 2013 10:51 AM Author: Free-loading Senate Gunner
Sports is one big area. See the deadspin link above.
Sorry, I don't want my daughter competing against some 6'3 dude in a dress who insists he's a chick.
Also bathrooms. Some states have laws now allowing trannies to basically choose whichever bathroom they want. You would be comfortable with some dude just parading around the women's room?
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Date: May 27th, 2013 10:59 AM Author: Trip Spot Hissy Fit
The deadspin link made the point about as I would have:
"This is dumb for a couple reasons: At least in California, most of the smattering of athletes who have invoked the policy have been biological females looking to play male sports. No one seems concerned about this.
But there's also the pretty obvious fact that it's not exactly fun to be transgender in high school. Playing the sport of your choosing is about participating in the school community in a way that represents who you really are, not about having the chance to dunk on a bunch of girls. As Blanford-Green put it to the Times: "Do you know the stigma and psychological trauma most of these kids probably go through just to come out? No kid is going to put himself in that situation as a joke.”"
--I don't think dudes playing girl sports is yet an issue (outside of the MMA thing that's playing out?) and should it start to crop up, I don't see why this shit can't be modified. By the way, girls regularly compete against men in high school wrestling and have since at least the 90's.
As far as bathrooms, I agree that's a different issue. I'd suggest that trannies just get access to any ungendered solo bathrooms if one is available. I really don't know what should be done in terms of broad legislative solutions to boys who identify/put themselves out as girls in high school and need to take a shit or change clothes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266650&forum_id=2#23277433) |
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