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So there are actually people working as "lawyers" making < 100K?
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Date: August 4th, 2013 10:38 AM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point lol wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777392) |
Date: August 4th, 2013 10:41 AM Author: spectacular box office (guy pretending 70k qol jobs don't pwn biglaw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777405) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 10:46 AM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point Lol 70k, really? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777425) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:18 AM Author: spectacular box office yeah bro 70k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777506) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:19 AM Author: razzle-dazzle private investor Lol, I dated a tttt grad working shitlaw for 40k, her hours were WAY worse than my biglaw hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777508) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:20 AM Author: spectacular box office whats your point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777514) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:23 AM Author: razzle-dazzle private investor The topic is about lawyer jobs making less than 100k. From my experience most private sector non biglaw jobs are just as bad if not worse than biglaw. Of course not talking about jobs in general. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777524) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:27 AM Author: spectacular box office No, its not from your experience. its from reading threads on this site. you have no experience in it. lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777534) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:30 AM Author: harsh range striped hyena Wtf? Ive never even seen an Insurance defense sweatshop. Most small firms (in mfh at least) are pretty chill 9-5 gigs where everyone is pretty happy and like 5-10 attorneys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777543) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:31 AM Author: pale personal credit line office lulwut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777544) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:49 AM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777600) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:26 PM Author: harsh range striped hyena LOL wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200275) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2014 11:15 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25436055) |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 8:05 AM Author: comical lodge newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25437346) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2014 11:31 PM Author: Provocative karate nursing home Best described as collegial, with an open door policy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25436155) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:19 AM Author: Purple Supple Prole :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777507) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 11:51 AM Author: henna pontificating depressive lay lol and apparently there are people who take out loans to pay for schooling! Can you believe that there are people out there who don't even have enough family money to pay for an education. It explains why they are always up in arms over student loan interest rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777607) |
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Date: August 4th, 2013 12:01 PM Author: Scarlet learning disabled mediation death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#23777637) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:26 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199868) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:27 PM Author: angry histrionic deer antler ladyboy i am ~90k 9-5 bigfed low COL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199872) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:44 PM Author: boyish wild nowag sound barrier You are a God amongst Men, Bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200002) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:30 PM Author: Cream vibrant whorehouse Most of them, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199898) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:32 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point lol, no:
"According to the BLS, in 2011, lawyers earned a median average salary of $113,310." |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:33 PM Author: Cream vibrant whorehouse Oh OK, nevermind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199927) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:34 PM Author: angry histrionic deer antler ladyboy /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199932) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:45 PM Author: boyish wild nowag sound barrier /gape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200006) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:23 PM Author: medicated school cafeteria this does not sound right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200254) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:24 PM Author: Hairraiser pit mad-dog skullcap Sure it does. It includes all the old bros. You know how hard it is to make less than $100k with 10-15+ yrs experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200260) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:48 PM Author: bright casino Of course this presumably excludes JDs who are barred but no longer practicing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200446) |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 7:13 AM Author: maize glittery dilemma gaping it certainly excludes the 20% or so who will never find jobs and therefore never "practice" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25437327) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:35 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison my buddy makes like $50k doing immigration work and then he spends his weekends working landscaping with his father. only way he can afford to feed his family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199945) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:39 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24199976) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:50 PM Author: boyish wild nowag sound barrier His weekend job actually provides some benefit to society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200032) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 2:51 PM Author: 180 Iridescent New Version Laser Beams lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200041) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:09 PM Author: Heady meetinghouse reading party What if he immigrated mexicans to do moar landscaping work and turn it into a lucrative slave trade business? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200167) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:20 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison he actually does pick up clients through the landscaping network.
sad thing is he's a good dood and went to a good undergrad with me. not the sharpest knife in the drawer (probable URM bump) but not objectively dumb. he was one of those guys who really loved and respected his parents for all the menial labor they did to provide for him and his siblings - better opportunities and all that jazz. and it was really important for him to rise beyond his parents' lot in life and justify all of the sacrifices they made. dreamed of being a biglawyer, rising to partner, taking care of his family. Once he got that 150s LSAT I tried to discourage him from law school but he wouldn't hear it. Paid $$$ for a legit TTT and got nojerb prospects pwnd. Wife and two kids and basically lives in his childhood neighborhood again. |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:21 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200244) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:52 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch wrong spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200477) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:25 PM Author: Floppy soggy state regret cot damn bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200263) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:53 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch so his biggest mistake was getting married and starting a family on that $50k salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200483) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:55 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison i guess. he was one of those guys that just had a vision of his future that he was going to follow. career success, wife and kids. even if career success was evading him he was going to push on with that family dream. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200499) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:58 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch sucks, sounds like a good dood. too bad he couldn't hold off on the other things before he jumped into the "family" arena
Sounds like one of the doods i actually could root for |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:03 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison yeah...he's a real chill bro. impossible to dislike really. thing is, he is still relatively happy, despite the hustling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200558) |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 7:24 AM Author: Balding native 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25437332) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:26 PM Author: Hairraiser pit mad-dog skullcap i know a breh who copped a kellogg mba but he just cleans pools and delivers newspapers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200274) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:28 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison lives with his parents? not a solid longterm strategy but doesn't sound all that bad if still early 20s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200290) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:30 PM Author: Hairraiser pit mad-dog skullcap No. This dude is a boomer. He's my friend's dad. He apparently worked on wall street for like 2 yrs out of kellogg but hated it and had a nervous breakdown so he started his own pool cleaning company and delivers newspapers at like 4 am to subsidize his income. He's been doing it for like 20+ years now. I would guess he makes like $80k a year between the two jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200301) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:31 PM Author: twinkling stubborn garrison lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200310) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:35 PM Author: Hairraiser pit mad-dog skullcap honestly he seems like a pretty happy dood. striving is 120. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200343) |
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Date: June 7th, 2014 11:55 AM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25705259) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:37 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point Honestly, sounds like he won. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200356) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 2:10 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24872713) |
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Date: June 7th, 2014 12:06 PM Author: painfully honest amber giraffe Jesus Christ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25705329) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:36 PM Author: Big round eye hell I work for a three attorney divorce firm. This year I will make $75k plus bonus.
I bill between 100-120 hours most months, which includes a decent amount of time doing networking (10 hours a month or so) and CLE related functions (taking them as well as preparing CLE materials for the partner to lecture on). It also includes nonbillable time if for example we are not double billing a client for a meeting both the partner and I attend.
I'm a third year and have done several depositions and minor hearings as well as made oral arguments regarding motions. I settle most of my cases directly with opposing counsel and have almost complete authority over my cases from start to finish.
I'd much rather be doing this than practicing in a big firm environment.
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:49 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point lol 75k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200451) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:05 PM Author: Big round eye hell I know I'm LJL every time my paycheck hits and it's gone the next day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200570) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:56 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch Compared to BL that's some good experience. I'll be doing that immediately upon getting sworn in. Twist, i have no billables or any type of requirement.
I agree with you though, much better than BL life |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:06 PM Author: Big round eye hell Great experience. I don't have a billables requirement. I simply do what I need to do. Getting deposition and trial experience is so important to developing the skills to run your own practice or partner up at some point. Good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200575) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:10 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch Exactly. And there's nothing better than not charging your clients. I sleep very well at night knowing nobody has to pay me to bring a case.
Good luck to you as well. |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 2:15 PM Author: Flushed step-uncle's house mexican your 2nd paragraph is a mess networking and cle related shit is not billable. nor is nonbillable billable. you know this, yet you cite to it as part of your billable time. you should know, as a 3rd yr practicing attorney, that no one around here would refer to that crap as billable hours |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 12:37 AM Author: Contagious Wrinkle Location "I bill...which includes...nonbillable time"
You don't seem terribly bright. |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 8:02 AM Author: Orchid Disturbing Legal Warrant Hospital he means record. he records 100 to 120 which includes nonbillables. in other words, his billables are less than 100 which is chill as fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25437343) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 3:59 PM Author: Disrespectful Cracking Crackhouse Friendly Grandma yea they're called millennials (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200529) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:11 PM Author: brass frozen stage telephone ITT: "lawyers" trying to validate their careers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200625) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:16 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch When people get sworn in, do they have to sign something acknowledging they are only attorneys after making > $100k? Just curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200663) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:18 PM Author: brass frozen stage telephone I believe so.
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:19 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch TY, I just want to know what to expect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200703) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:20 PM Author: brass frozen stage telephone More so, I am commenting on all the people trying to say that they are glad they aren't in biglaw or something more lucrative because they get to be in charge of a divorce case. |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:21 PM Author: Disrespectful Cracking Crackhouse Friendly Grandma maybe they dont want to work the hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200716) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:25 PM Author: brass frozen stage telephone maybe, although I am guessing a lot of these jobs they speak of don't have particularly short hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200750) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:39 PM Author: Big round eye hell Since you might be referring to me. For most of my colleagues at other similar firms and myself, we are out of the office by 6 almost every night except a handful throughout the year. The hours are not bad at all. Maybe in midlaw or some complete shithole firm.
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:25 PM Author: Magical national security agency brunch I see. I think you've misinterpreted the comments of a few. It seems to some that making less than Biglaw now is cr for them because they gain more early experience and don't suffer through the BigLaw shit QOL. That experience will translate (possibly) into BigLaw or higher salary AND offer autonomy in the relative short term.
Side by side, in 3 years, that poaster above has done stuff that would take a BL associate 5-8 years to achieve. No argument on the pay scale, but that's not always the biggest factor (unless it's all you have to boast about)
Oddly enough, copping a BigLaw gig isn't what every person wants to do. |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:32 PM Author: white electric party of the first part foreskin I could train a high school dood to do my job. 90k, flexible 40 hour week. Older doods are over 200k (considerably more with various bonuses etc) and there's not a lot of young blood gunning for those spots.
Yup, not unhappy I missed BIGLAW, which I'd have flamed the fuck out of anyhow. |
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Date: April 24th, 2014 7:17 AM Author: maize glittery dilemma gaping on this bort: lawyers who claim big law associates billing 2000 are "padding", yet claim big law associates work 18 hours every fucking day...
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Date: September 12th, 2014 12:29 PM Author: Laughsome Sticky Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#26315433) |
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Date: October 9th, 2013 4:29 PM Author: primrose offensive theatre potus if you're a private practice lawyer who can't make $100k+/yr within 5 years of law school graduation, you are a loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24200794) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 2:16 PM Author: Soul-stirring Metal Kitty Cat Sandwich i make $36K/yr as a shitlaw lawyer.
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Date: January 21st, 2014 5:15 PM Author: Dark Fragrant Coldplay Fan Orchestra Pit same here bro, insr. defense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24873740) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 5:33 PM Author: Hairraiser pit mad-dog skullcap pls at least tell me you work part time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#24873850) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 8:50 PM Author: Soul-stirring Metal Kitty Cat Sandwich full time. run my own law firm.
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Date: June 7th, 2014 12:06 PM Author: Racy Plaza Generalized Bond I make 85 as a law clerk for a gov't with strict 40 hour per week guidelines. 45k shitprosecutors laugh at me tho because im not really practicing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2328308&forum_id=2#25705323) |