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Minimum tax free amount of $ to cut off one finger?
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:33 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Think I'd need at least seven figures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867758) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:33 PM Author: salmon heady really tough guy faggotry I'll take 10 fingers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872200) |
Date: January 20th, 2014 4:34 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive $10M i'd take off a pinky. i think the medicare part b fee schedule for a missing pinky is $75k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867766) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:35 PM Author: Bronze Plaza So if I offered you 5 million to cut off a pinky, you'd be like " nah man, ding" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867779) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:45 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive that's right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867847) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:48 PM Author: chrome persian you really think a pinky is worth more than 10-20 years of your life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867854) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:49 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Brother, I'm in the same boat. You could walk up to me on the street with $5 million cash to cut off my pinky and I'd earnestly tell you "double it or walk." $5 million isn't worth mutilating your body. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867861) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:50 PM Author: chrome persian that's irrational to the point of insanity, the result of refusing that is that you have to literally sell your life itself in increments until it is gone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867871) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:52 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot It's completely rational given my utility preferences. And I doubt I'm alone or close to alone in this sentiment. I honestly don't know if I'd take any amount of money (short of something really insane, e.g., $1 billion) TBH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867882) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:54 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive $10M is enough to where if somebody's like "what happened to your pinky" and you tell them...100% of people would be like "shit, that's a good deal, bro!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867895) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:56 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Completely get this. Decision wouldn't be based on some sense of social shame or anything like that. My preferences just are highly averse to the idea of mutilating a portion of my body for money. Call it "integrity" or call it "the insanity gene" or whatever. And I bet there are a shitton of people like me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867912) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:54 PM Author: chrome persian there is no rational basis for believing a pinky has more utility than 20 years of life (and that's only if you're an upper middle class dood) rather than sell a small part of your body you'd prefer to sell your soul (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867899) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:57 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Why is this so confusing? What do you mean "20 years of life?" We're not exchanging a pinky for life we're exchanging a pinky for cash. This shouldn't blow anyone's mind that someone would not be motivated to chop off their finger for money -- different people have different utility preferences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867921) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:59 PM Author: chrome persian if you had that cash you wouldn't need to spend the rest of your life trying to earn it, in this hypo you are exchanging 5 million dollars plus the 20+ years of labor for a pinky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867942) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:59 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot The labor doesn't bother me (enough to make the cost-benefit come out in favor of cutting off my finger). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867948) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:00 PM Author: chrome persian being forced to spend most of your waking hours not doing what you'd most like to be doing or with who you'd most like to be with doesn't bother you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867958) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:02 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Nah I kind of like what I do. And if I don't at some point I'll do something else that I like more. Don't need to cut off a finger to figure that shit out, monetarily or otherwise. And this isn't a flame being straightforward here brother. P.S. I completely understand the other perspective. But it's not mine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867982) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:04 PM Author: chrome persian this is the definition of insanity to me man, it's like you're so bought into a system that you wouldn't walk away even if a better option were offered, I'm thinking of you like one of the house niggers who stayed behind after the war to die along side the mistress of the house
to each his own I guess |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive lol at you taking the first offer on an appendage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868013) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot brother, no flame, I don't think you're insane for wanting things to be different; not sure why you'd think I'm insane for liking things how they are (or at least not dislking them enough to not be motivated to chop off my finger). Doesn't make me a "house" anything just someone with different preferences in relation to circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868015) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: chrome persian because things as they are suck, unless you're a pro athlete or an artist or something I do not see any world where working because you have to is to be preferred to doing whatever the fuck you want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868038) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:10 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot My hoap for you is you get to a place in life where you don't feel like things suck as they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868067) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: chrome persian nothing in life could possibly ever make working every day not suboptimal, time is by far the most valuable thing we have and trading mine away for money is a bad deal no matter what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868075) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:13 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Brotip: What if you found value in the work you do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868095) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:16 PM Author: chrome persian then you'd do it for free to the extent you find value in it
still doesn't mean it's a good thing to *have* to do it or be dependent on it for your livelihood, plus there really aren't many jobs that fit that description unless you're deluded, even people working in the public interest sector figure this out pretty fast for the most part |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Okay brother. I'm not trying to change your views just offering some other ones. Wish you well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868186) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:14 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Even if true, you realize many people value it differently. Literally every partner at my firm (who's been a partner for 10 plus years) could walk away and yet very very few ever do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868100) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:14 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868105) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:14 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive they can't walk away. trust me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868107) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:16 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot This is true for some and not true for others. For some you're completely right -- golden handcuffs. But you kid yourself if you don't think there's a substantial portion -- including, I'd argue, lots of the "best" -- who are in it for the love of the game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868118) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: chrome persian ie to feed their own inflated egos and deranged sense of self worth that for some really fucked up reason derives from biglaw
you see what I meant above about the house nigger who stays to die with massa? |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot Okay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868188) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:19 PM Author: chrome persian apart from guys like Boies can your really disagree wrt to biglaw partners? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868196) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Yeah, they can. Maybe not today because they've been stupid with their $$$. But they could easily plan an exit within the next few years and a couple have done so. That said, there are a couple with 20 million plus net worth and they don't walk away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868187) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:23 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive expenses get silly. not just keep up with joneses but legit mortgages you can't really unload, stock options that you can't afford cap gains on, kids in private school and activities (sunk costs), car payments locked into 4-5 year leases, etc. etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868225) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:28 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Sure. Thing is, I work at a plaintiffs boutique not big law. And it's very eat what you kill. The big partners generally made their nut on one or two big scores (think taking home 10 million plus after tax in a year) but they hang around making right around seven figs sometimes less. They could easily walk away. They choose not to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868267) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:29 PM Author: chrome persian why do you really think that is? I doubt very seriously it's a concern for their own well being and the need to be a practicing attorney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868276) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:31 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Social status, I'd bet. They see themselves as important players. I know, lulzy but they do. Though in fairness some are pretty connected, politically speaking. Retiring, no matter how much $$$ they have, means they are out of the game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868296) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:35 PM Author: chrome persian that seems about right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868319) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:51 PM Author: Bronze Plaza what would you do with 10 million that the 5 just wouldn't do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867874) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:53 PM Author: Crystalline provocative shrine depressive retire right then.
maybe it's not rational...it's like 15 yrs pay or something but i want fuck you money. think about it...somebody has the money to want my fucking pinky. why me? if they have $5M why not $10m? |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:55 PM Author: Bronze Plaza See, I'd retire right then on 5. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867907) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:13 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885261) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:36 PM Author: Blathering jewess i'd probably do a pink for a cool mill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867785) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:36 PM Author: chrome persian for a pinky I think a million flat would cut it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867786) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:37 PM Author: galvanic zombie-like piazza $5M for a pink. I'd give you both of them. Wouldn't sell my index finger for any price. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867793) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:38 PM Author: chrome persian actually, upon further consideration, I'd do the ring finger first, I recall reading about how the pinky is actually more essential to gripping, the ring finger is really just a shit middle finger doing less (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867802) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:38 PM Author: Flatulent adventurous fortuitous meteor For a non-thumb? Maybe $500K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867798) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:38 PM Author: electric boistinker preventive strike if i can pick the finger and its done in a er with anesthesia...id have a hard time turning down 50k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867803) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:39 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Holy shit, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867809) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:42 PM Author: electric boistinker preventive strike i would definitely take 100k and pay off all my loans. jerry garcia had only four fingers on one hand and he was fucking awesome. i would do the same thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867825) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:43 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot (bro beginning to understand how black-market organ-for-cash exchanges develop -- the key word is "desperation") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867835) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:44 PM Author: Bronze Plaza I'd sell a kidney for like 250k, it would take much more to cut off a finger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867842) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:26 PM Author: Thriller immigrant native The free market at work is a beautiful thing to behold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872167) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:21 PM Author: indigo concupiscible skinny woman yeah THIS. I would definitely do it for $50k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868210) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 4:58 PM Author: hairraiser national 500k and I could begin to turn this shithold life around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867937) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:03 PM Author: amethyst lodge fuck you. 450000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867988) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:04 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot lol. race to the bottom begins (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24867995) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: Bronze Plaza erasmus already won that race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868005) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:06 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot auction is still in process lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868020) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: amethyst lodge fuck, i'm not gonna do 50k. how fucking desperate is that guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868047) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:09 PM Author: diverse old irish cottage spot T4 grad with 400k loans: "$4k and a gift certificate for 3 months of dominos pizza" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868056) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: amethyst lodge sign of the times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868072) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:12 PM Author: Bronze Plaza XO 2004: YNY! wachtell callback! XO 2014: cutting off pinkies for 50k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868082) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:50 PM Author: Grizzly set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#35432981) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: hairraiser national 300k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868004) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:18 PM Author: ebony associate pistol right around 1 million. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868194) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 5:31 PM Author: Massive Party Of The First Part It'd have to be life changing for me not to regret it. I'd get interested at $500k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24868293) |
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Date: January 20th, 2014 10:55 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24870100) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:24 PM Author: Deep location It baffles me that people itt can't understand why someone would want to work in their chosen profession rather than retire. I love my job and have plenty of leisure time. I know plenty of people who have ample $$$ to quit and do something else, but since they're doing what they want to do, they don't.
There is no amount of money that would cause me to cut off a finger. |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:29 PM Author: chrome persian what is your job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872176) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:31 PM Author: apoplectic bisexual alpha he's a lawyer, which makes his claim prima facie ridiculous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872188) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:33 PM Author: chrome persian ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872197) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:39 PM Author: Deep location I do tax planning - I come up with ideas to save tax and then implement them. I like doing it more than I would like incremental leisure time. I'll probably be tired of doing it in 20 years, but I don't think that's a given. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872497) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:34 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Obvious flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872469) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:37 PM Author: Bronze Plaza lol @ this liar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885449) |
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Date: October 25th, 2019 8:01 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Man, I forgot what an insufferable faggot you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39027657) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 12:30 PM Author: Appetizing dragon pit Pinky for $700K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872183) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:39 PM Author: learning disabled corner ljl at you all choosing your pinky http://www.businessinsider.com/if-kidnappers-chop-off-one-of-your-fingers-heres-which-finger-you-should-sacrifice-2013-9 |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:46 PM Author: amethyst lodge the reason yakuza used to make wayward members cut off pinkies was because it weakens your grip strength considerably, which meant that you weren't able to use your sword very effectively, which meant that you needed to depend more on the group for both defense and offense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872552) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:42 PM Author: Orange house with or without anesthesia? with anesthesia, $500k. you can have both for $900k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872518) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:44 PM Author: Bronze Plaza With is fine since OP doesn't stipulate. Someone (two in fact) already offered to do it that way for 50k though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872534) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 2:07 PM Author: Orange house there's only demand for one pinkie? i read OP as a standing offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872696) |
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Date: January 21st, 2014 1:55 PM Author: pale slap-happy selfie i wouldn't do this for any amount of money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#24872601) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: Big burgundy wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885281) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:12 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Liar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#35433074) |
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Date: November 4th, 2017 9:33 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34605909) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:18 PM Author: Stimulating crackhouse nibblets 100k for right hand pinky or ring fing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885301) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:23 PM Author: rough-skinned useless brakes parlour 230k, let's go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885337) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: lascivious olive university indirect expression that depends...
https://youtu.be/jK0N74BDC5k?t=28s
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: ruddy boyish heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885494) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: ruddy boyish heaven lol @ faggots saying there is no amount. Gatormo would let me cut off his tiny Asian dick for the right number. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34885498) |
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Date: December 24th, 2017 2:43 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#34998895) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#35432930) |
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Date: September 21st, 2019 2:54 PM Author: Bronze Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#38866362) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: cerebral den $1.5-2M. Basically, I’d only do it to be set financially for life. |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: Stimulating crackhouse nibblets would need a million only because I'd like to learn piano (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#35433046) |
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Date: September 21st, 2019 2:56 PM Author: Pearly Unholy Point Bbw I'd lose my left pinky for as little as $200k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#38866373) |
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Date: October 25th, 2019 7:57 PM Author: Bronze Plaza Still my favorite thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39027624) |
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Date: October 25th, 2019 7:57 PM Author: odious ticket booth Pinky for $50 grand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39027629) |
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Date: October 25th, 2019 7:58 PM Author: passionate stag film nowag They have a quantum book for this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39027640) |
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Date: October 25th, 2019 8:01 PM Author: lilac chapel $3 million less than that I'd have to think hard but might take it |
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Date: November 25th, 2019 11:56 PM Author: silver church building philosopher-king my favorite of this genre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39173284) |
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Date: November 25th, 2019 11:57 PM Author: orchid keepsake machete First finger $100k. Second $200k. Third $300k and so on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2473639&forum_id=2#39173290) |