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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:06 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry wers?
I never understood this shit. They are always bashing on academics. Are they jealous they didn't pwn in college? ljl at these faggots thinking they are much better because they work in the REAL WORLD - whatever fuck that means. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:07 AM Author: bateful garrison Because academics are an unsavory combination of clueless and smug? And they also don't make much money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995126) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:22 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry but why hate them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995193) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:30 AM Author: bateful garrison I don't hate them, I just find them annoying and irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995237) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:35 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry Why do you find them irrelevant? Don't you think advancing knowledge is something of use to this world?
I am not on the academics side. I really want to know what people mean when they say REAL WORLD and why they don't think academics work in it. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:37 AM Author: bateful garrison "Don't you think advancing knowledge is something of use to this world?"
Of course I do, but this is a false equivalency. Most academics are dispensers of received wisdom, and you don't need to be a professor to "advance knowledge". |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:55 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state What's a more effective method of advancing knowledge? Blog? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995421) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:04 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry Blogs aren't peer reviewed and are usually rants by ppl with 110 IQs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995471) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:02 PM Author: puce tanning salon boistinker 1-8-0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999215) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 8:46 AM Author: Stirring useless kitty cat chapel Damn bro u stylin on dis nigga (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#25001999) |
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Date: October 20th, 2016 7:40 PM Author: contagious sable hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#31692038) |
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Date: October 20th, 2016 7:56 PM Author: magenta jet-lagged digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#31692148) |
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Date: October 19th, 2022 8:42 PM Author: titillating mentally impaired station rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#45359317) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:28 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Why would you hate someone for not making much money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995227) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:31 AM Author: bateful garrison Snobby contempt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995241) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:34 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Only a very low-% of people are susceptible to this, do they also hate fast food workers and shitlawyers? And besides, there are academics making 200k+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995260) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:37 AM Author: bateful garrison I think you underestimate how bitchy most people are IRL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995288) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:41 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state certainly possible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995322) |
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Date: October 19th, 2022 8:42 PM Author: titillating mentally impaired station rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#45359314) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 9:55 AM Author: fiercely-loyal rambunctious mexican My dad was an academic. Big name in a big name school. Retired now. He was one of the few who worked his ass off even after full tenure and supplemented his income greatly through lectures elsewhere. Probably averaged 55 hours a week when you factor in all the teaching, lectures, preparing for lectures, research, writing, screaming at the publishing houses for mistakes they made plus all the ridiculous meetings he couldn't escape.
But he still thought most of his peer professors were crazy as batshit.
From what I can remember growing up and in my own years in academia, the faculty looked down on the support staff and resented the administration. The administration resented the faculty. Everyone resented the president and provost. And everyone resented the students. Everyone especially despised the graduate students as they had to be funded. Professional students were thoroughly ignored and quickly forgotten. And had a couple meetings every day complaining.
Academia can be just as bitchy, judgmental and petty as a girls' boarding school. And like a girls' boarding school it's also out of touch with reality.
The private sector can be dysfunctional but it's driven by the profit motive. No one is going to carry you so you have to work to survive. That's a major incentive you don't find in academia, once you're tenured. |
Date: February 11th, 2014 10:08 AM Author: vigorous saffron idiot 120 flame and schtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995127) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:08 AM Author: adventurous self-absorbed double fault plaza i just found out theres no such thing as the real world its just a lie&fraud&scam we have to rise above (tedcruz) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995130) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:23 AM Author: twinkling athletic conference /self, doobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995197) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:27 AM Author: chestnut godawful mood American academics are parasites that feed off government subsidized loans and other sources of public money. They do very little real work and are responsible for pushing things like "diversity." They are the worst sort of scum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995221) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:29 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry actually, shitlibs push diversity.
You'd never hear an analytic philosophy prof ranting on about diversity |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:31 AM Author: chestnut godawful mood Are you kidding? Analytic philosophy is filled with shitlibs and people pushing for more women in philosophy or whatever. I like analytic philosophy quite a bit, but you are an uninformed moron. Your tedcruz moniker was more apt that you knew. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995240) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:38 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry What TTT philosophy department were you in? Sure analytic bros entertain the thought of more women in philosophy. But that's it. They don't get annoying like sociology profs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995293) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:39 AM Author: chestnut godawful mood Correction: their scholarship isn't based on that stuff. That doesn't mean they aren't pushing it and don't support it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995301) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:40 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry They support it - maybe
They push for it - no |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:40 AM Author: chestnut godawful mood wrongo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995318) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:41 AM Author: adventurous self-absorbed double fault plaza http://www.newappsblog.com/women-in-philosophy/ if you want a torrent of bullshit to cascade down upon your psyche (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995325) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:45 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry this blog isnt specifically on philosophy. usually when people group other disciplines with philosophy (except maths, physics, neuroscience, cognitive science, linguistics) you know it's TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995344) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:47 AM Author: adventurous self-absorbed double fault plaza jesus fucking christ ted. you read the title of the blog and think you know about it. but i am pretty sure every single blogger is a professional philosopher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995359) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:48 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry ART, POLITICS
i stopped reading after that |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:49 AM Author: adventurous self-absorbed double fault plaza okay, but who fucking cares when you stopped reading? my link disproved your assertion.
do you know about the gendered conference campaign? |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:54 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry sounds pretty TTT to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995407) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:55 AM Author: adventurous self-absorbed double fault plaza it is insanely TTT but it is also coming from professional philosophers, which goes against what you were saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995419) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:56 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry fair point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995426) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:29 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state (Emory finance grad w/2.5 GPA) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995234) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:32 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Most people are understandably jealous of the academic lifestyle. Add that to the fact some professors make 120k+ for 30 hr/weeks and this infuriates people, especially critdick lawnerds working 80hr weeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995244) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:34 AM Author: clear hall sneaky criminal being in the real world also makes you realize how masturbatory and irrelevant so much of academia really is (at least humanities/soft social sciences). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995253) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:38 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry what the FUCK IS THE REAL WORLD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995297) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:40 AM Author: chestnut godawful mood Anyone that is good at analytic philosophy should be able to accept that some useful terms are inherently vague (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995313) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:57 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry lolno (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995851) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:29 AM Author: clear hall sneaky criminal most people do not have total job security and the freedom to essentially do what they want at work. this makes it tough for the overwhelming majority of the labor force to really identify with academics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995648) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 12:01 AM Author: Sepia Disrespectful Cruise Ship For people outside the top 1-2% intellectually you are on the money. But I would add straightforward disgust with academic shitlibbery too.
For people who went to top tier graduate programs and could very well have sought academia, I think this is second to the contempt of people pushing ideas that have no value in practice. This applies not just to the humanities and soft social sciences, but also to say economics. Many PhD's at the IMF, Fed, World Bank thing macro researchers in top tier departments are engaged in a clueless, intellectual circle jerk (think like Bernanke, Summers, Blanchard vs. Phelps, Lucas, Krugman since you are an econ guy).
This holds for a lot of other fields too. Engineering PhD's in hot fields like nano hate on profs for doing work that they view as digressive compared to where technology is commercially going. You could argue non-viable research actually undermines emerging applied sciences areas by painting them as too theoretical. Same holds for math, physics, biochem, etc. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:35 AM Author: bateful garrison Are people actually jealous of the academic "lifestyle"? Very few professors crack six figures, and being on the teaching staff is hardly better than being a student if you look at how universities are organized.
There are basically two types of academics: real scholars and scientists who can ONLY do their work if they are attached to a university (which is understandable and not annoying), and then the parasite types who need to hitch their cart to a larger institution to feel validated. I would argue that most academics are in the second category. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:39 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Very few is an exaggeration. It depends entirely on the field.
So what, you don't believe in the peer-review process? How can a historian pursue scholarship full-time unless employed by a university? |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:42 AM Author: bateful garrison Stop putting words in my mouth. Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995327) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:44 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Please explain your 2nd paragraph then. Why shouldn't humanists pursue academic positions? How can one pursue scholarship full-time if not paid by a university. Ur critique seems unfair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995340) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:47 AM Author: bateful garrison All I'm saying is that very few academics are doing any ground-breaking research. It may be of interest to them personally, but who cares. And these people are often the ones who are drawn to academia because the real world has certain hard-and-fast standards which they are unable to cope with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995357) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:49 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Well that's the nature of research brother. 99.999% of it is not going to be "groundbreaking", but the .001% that is changes the world. And your third sentence is highly speculative and reeks of projection (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995380) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:51 AM Author: bateful garrison You find it "speculative" that academics are interested in their own research? That is one of their salient features.
EDIT: Nice edit. Learn to count. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:52 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state Lol you seem bitchy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995396) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:53 AM Author: bateful garrison Are you new here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995399) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:54 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state I've been poasting since 2010, what of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995409) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 10:59 AM Author: Spectacular Mischievous Office Op: I think your question is better directed to students at top law schools: how do you characterize your peers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995447) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:01 AM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state The vast majority of these peers are not academics and never will be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995457) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 8:43 AM Author: supple home trust fund *nostrils flaring, fists clenched*
"These... These people are NOT my peers!" |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:03 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry they yearn for scholarly treats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995469) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:29 AM Author: big pocket flask yes op
You should poast an INQUIRY. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: Bossy Marvelous Personal Credit Line It's become worse as compensation has soared in academia while private sector salaries have been stagnant or even dropped. Before professors could legitimately say they were making a sacrifice. Now they often make more than private sector counterparts while having a far better lifestyle. This understandably causes some jealousy.
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Date: February 11th, 2014 11:12 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry ty for this candid response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24995529) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 2:11 PM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996622) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 2:15 PM Author: hot dull market Narcissism; people won't admit that PhDs and academics at most schools are fairly smart people who did well in school and pursued something they loved and found success. Success is only for those who are corporate slaves because that's what our elite overlords want us to think. Keep running in the hamster wheel! Get that carrot! Run! Run! Those people who found a path outside of the wheel are bad! They're bad! Do not envy them! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996644) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 2:24 PM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996701) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 2:32 PM Author: big pocket flask *tips fedora* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996745) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:23 PM Author: supple home trust fund In this moment, I am euphoric. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999413) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 12:23 AM Author: Insanely creepy iridescent volcanic crater degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#25000961) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 3:05 PM Author: Floppy piazza cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996927) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 3:07 PM Author: hot dull market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996936) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 3:39 PM Author: lascivious mauve skinny woman state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24997082) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:15 PM Author: Poppy becky Academia is every bit as bad as the corporate world, just a different kind of shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999326) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:19 PM Author: big pocket flask how dare you insult the scholarship, heathen! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999361) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 6:51 AM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#25001829) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 6:54 AM Author: pontificating learning disabled nibblets crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#25001833) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 2:21 PM Author: Floppy piazza jealousy of course
don't want to accept the idea that intelligence can trump hard work. |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 3:10 PM Author: impressive topaz legend church building pretty sure success in academia really is all about continuous effort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24996954) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 3:36 PM Author: Aromatic Chocolate Dingle Berry lolno (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24997067) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:16 PM Author: Thirsty provocative field its bougie as fuckk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999338) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:24 PM Author: exciting cordovan french chef because they promote shitty policies like mass-immigration that gut the working class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999421) |
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Date: February 11th, 2014 9:26 PM Author: puce tanning salon boistinker because lib arts profs sole contribution to society at large is the softening of working peoples kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#24999433) |
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Date: February 12th, 2014 9:13 AM Author: Walnut Jewess because academics are largely frauds. they invent things like the liberal meta-narrative to promote their incessant circle jerking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#25002042) |
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Date: October 19th, 2022 8:44 PM Author: Umber Twisted Native /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#45359341) |
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Date: October 19th, 2022 8:48 PM Author: titillating mentally impaired station rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2491652&forum_id=2#45359372) |