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"Although compelling at first, Graham’s account is seve...
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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:31 AM
Author: Soul-stirring hairy legs reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077098)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:53 AM
Author: fluffy floppy piazza toilet seat

"Although compelling at first, Graham’s account is severely flawed. Part one takes for granted that upon reaching a perfect state of knowledge about one’s duty, one will discern an objective moral responsibility. This assumes that complete knowledge of a duty is equivalent to moral responsibility. I can have full information of my duty to be kind to others, yet, how does that make it an objective moral obligation? Further, I may think it’s indeed my objective moral obligation, but my belief could be erroneous. Part one, therefore, fails. In part two, Graham ignores the possibility that we inquire the right course of action because of self-interested desires. That is, I may deliberately inquire the right course of action because I want to make sure I execute an action correctly, which I, in turn, will receive major dividends for a flawless outcome, whilst fulfilling my self-interested desires. Therefore, part two fails as well. Moral objectivism, then, is unsound."

almost every sentence in this paragraph seems completely wrong to me.

- isn't it an analytic truth that we have a moral responsibility to discharge our duties? isn't that what it means to be a duty?

- if you have "perfect knowledge" of something your "belief" cannot be incorrect under any analysis of knowledge (which requires, at bare minimum, that what is "known" be a true belief)

- you're arguing at cross-purposes to graham. in his hypo it seems like the person is asking what's right to do. you are deliberately changing the scenario to one in which the person is asking what will benefit them. but that isn't finding a hole in the hypo; it's fighting it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077124)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:10 AM
Author: fluffy floppy piazza toilet seat

the larger problem, of course, is that you've concluded moral objectivism is false not by presenting an argument against it and justifying its premises, but by presenting an argument for it and undermining its premises. this is what lsat takers call a false contrapositive: just that an argument that implies moral objectivism might not work does not mean that moral objectivism is wrong. so the whole logical structure of the paper is off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077134)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:13 AM
Author: Ruddy factory reset button

don't know why he's sinning against scholarship!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077135)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:22 PM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth

So what grade do you give his paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080313)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 10:53 PM
Author: Nubile faggot firefighter theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25081602)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 10:54 PM
Author: fluffy floppy piazza toilet seat

it would be an undergrad B of some sort, i think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25081613)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 4:24 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

i'd give it an F for faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25090152)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:25 AM
Author: big-titted regret

*reserved*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077152)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 7:19 AM
Author: Exhilarant shaky trailer park

weren't you supposed to use inline citations. i'm going to print this and read it later

your topic is a little flamey but i'm glad you brought us a scholarly treat even if it's late. 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077247)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 5:30 PM
Author: buck-toothed pale ape lodge

180



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25092993)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 8:06 PM
Author: Sinister blue candlestick maker market

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25094194)



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Date: February 27th, 2014 1:41 AM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25096052)



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Date: February 27th, 2014 2:39 AM
Author: excitant primrose address

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25096239)



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Date: February 27th, 2014 2:41 AM
Author: Exciting fiercely-loyal becky stag film

ted cruz, pls don't turn this into another 'uc system isn't prestigious thread'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25096246)



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Date: February 27th, 2014 3:30 PM
Author: Poppy misanthropic twinkling uncleanness

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25098238)



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Date: March 2nd, 2014 6:09 AM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25113359)



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Date: March 2nd, 2014 6:37 AM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth

Incredibly transparent that you're mass blank bumping with your pumo alts, ted cruz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25113378)



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Date: March 2nd, 2014 6:43 AM
Author: Useless coiffed hell nowag

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25113382)



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Date: March 2nd, 2014 6:24 AM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25113374)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:35 AM
Author: Exciting fiercely-loyal becky stag film

are you gonna be responding to people in this thread or is this truly your last post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077101)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:28 AM
Author: sadistic love of her life fortuitous meteor

pls respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077159)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:45 AM
Author: Exciting fiercely-loyal becky stag film

lol at dis nigga rejecting moral objectivism and moral relativism in a few sentences. you should have narrowed your scope bro, i still maintain that this is too lofty of a project to even evaluate on its merits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077108)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:48 AM
Author: Ruddy factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077112)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:48 AM
Author: Underhanded headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077114)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:48 AM
Author: thirsty faggotry institution

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077113)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:10 PM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth

sup Ted Cruz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25079016)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 11:45 PM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse

(ted cruz)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25089105)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:30 AM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse

better than I thought, spic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077163)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:53 AM
Author: pungent kitchen roommate

http://twitter.com/xoxohthTeddy/status/437902954549374976

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077199)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 7:14 AM
Author: bronze swashbuckling boltzmann

scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077241)



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Date: February 28th, 2014 12:59 PM
Author: Gold Glittery Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25102892)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 7:31 AM
Author: Exhilarant shaky trailer park

did migtp the poaster freak out and delete his paper. i gave him a 180 and he called me stupid and it made me frown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077253)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 11:14 AM
Author: cracking embarrassed to the bone hissy fit

Yeah, I gave him an Undergrad A- and he got really mad.

Ted Cruz's paper is like an undergrad B-, maybe a C+ If the professor is a hard ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077632)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 11:18 AM
Author: Ruddy factory reset button

they are both awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077640)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 11:25 AM
Author: Exhilarant shaky trailer park

i'll take whatever treats i can get

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077656)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 11:27 AM
Author: cracking embarrassed to the bone hissy fit

If they were in your sophomore philosophy class you couldn't flunk either. MiG's might be the best you got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077662)



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Date: March 1st, 2014 9:11 AM
Author: Citrine aromatic church karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25107639)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 2:44 PM
Author: fluffy floppy piazza toilet seat

yes mig got quite defensive even with people who really liked his paper :/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25078663)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 10:13 AM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077442)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 11:16 AM
Author: cracking embarrassed to the bone hissy fit

Thanks for posting.

Main problem is section one, where you basically assume Error Theory is correct. You don't actually prove anything in that section.

Your paper can also be summarized in about two sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25077635)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: thirsty faggotry institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25078635)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 2:44 PM
Author: Coral resort round eye

lol this, the faggot trashes on loaded assumptions that predicate statements and then contradicts himself at the very moment he tackles the subject.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25078664)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 3:45 PM
Author: pungent kitchen roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25078918)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 4:21 PM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth

Loling at this trash. Going to print it out and wipe my ass with it. Will post a pic for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25079072)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:04 PM
Author: Curious kitty

well well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25079302)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 5:16 PM
Author: flirting disturbing area

" My argument in this paper can be summarized as follows:

P1) If there are no moral principles, then there is no right or wrong

P2) Moral claims are true only when there is a right or wrong

P3) There are no moral principles

P4) Our moral claims are always false

SC5) The moral claim: “posting on xo is immoral” is false

- - - - -

C) Posting on xo is not immoral"

OH WHAT SCHOLARSHIP!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25079378)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 7:59 PM
Author: Cocky erotic bawdyhouse



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:08 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080231)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:27 PM
Author: flirting disturbing area



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:28 PM
Author: 180 Hot Preventive Strike

"For example, a society whose citizens all have middling IQs could approve the most egregious moral principles, yet ethical relativists would not care! Ethical relativism has extreme and atrocious implications. Therefore, it is not a sound moral theory."

ljl. this is profoundly retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080367)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:29 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080372)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:37 PM
Author: Hairraiser obsidian parlour laser beams



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:40 PM
Author: Rebellious Clear Ticket Booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080449)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:42 PM
Author: motley fishy sanctuary

Almost everyone hates you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080462)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:44 PM
Author: Azure aphrodisiac locale halford

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080475)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:39 PM
Author: impressive corner



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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:47 PM
Author: stirring deranged field

this is exactly the sort of brute skeptical view of objective morality that I would love to hear a serious defense of.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080501)



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Date: February 24th, 2014 9:04 PM
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Date: February 25th, 2014 9:06 PM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

(ted cruz)

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Date: February 24th, 2014 8:50 PM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

ted cruz, you write like a retarded striver college faggot attempting to please his boomer professor. I'm glad you decided to leave this board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25080523)



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Date: February 28th, 2014 1:01 PM
Author: brilliant public bath

I will first proceed by 180-ing this post. Next, I will then blank bump it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25102900)



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Date: February 28th, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: Poppy misanthropic twinkling uncleanness



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Date: February 28th, 2014 4:45 PM
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Date: March 1st, 2014 6:40 AM
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Date: February 24th, 2014 9:05 PM
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Date: February 25th, 2014 4:27 AM
Author: big-titted regret

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25083288)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 4:31 AM
Author: Crimson Adventurous New Version Jew

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25083291)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 4:05 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25085621)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 8:16 PM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

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Date: February 25th, 2014 8:45 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25087616)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25087796)



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Date: April 8th, 2014 11:56 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25087896)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25087936)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 11:19 PM
Author: Crimson Adventurous New Version Jew



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Date: August 2nd, 2014 4:31 AM
Author: Supple Sticky State

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#26045803)



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Date: February 25th, 2014 11:29 PM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

holy shit ted cruz are you really that aspie that you waste your time writing an original essay just for xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25088958)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 5:03 PM
Author: dun alcoholic fat ankles

"Just for XO"? This was his senior thesis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25092806)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 5:02 PM
Author: pungent kitchen roommate

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25092801)



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Date: February 27th, 2014 3:28 PM
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Date: February 27th, 2014 5:35 PM
Author: Poppy misanthropic twinkling uncleanness

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25099104)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25158628)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25160422)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25162819)



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Date: April 7th, 2014 1:40 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25340339)



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Date: April 7th, 2014 1:40 PM
Author: Vigorous dingle berry forum

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25340341)



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Date: April 8th, 2014 11:54 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25346468)



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Date: April 8th, 2014 11:59 AM
Author: Vigorous dingle berry forum

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25346505)



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Date: April 8th, 2014 12:09 PM
Author: Vigorous dingle berry forum

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I. Introduction

Critics maintain that posting on any racist, sexist, and classist online discussion board is immoral.[n1] Posters, these critics say, are degenerates. Dr. Brian Leiter, Professor of Jurisprudence at The University of Chicago, is one major critic; His analysis specifically targets the most prestigious law discussion board in the world, AutoAdmit.com (hereinafter “xo”). However, the reasons given in support are not grounded on genuine moral arguments. The closest these critics get to a moral theory is ethical relativism—cultural relativism, in particular. But if this is true, then their contentions are begging the question because they posit, without justification, that ethical relativism is indubitably true.

My thesis in this paper is twofold: One, I will argue that the meta-ethical theory, Error Theory, is the only sound moral theory. By implication, I will reject moral objectivism and ethical relativism. Two, I will reason, based on an Error Theorist view, that posting on xo is not immoral.

II. Error Theory: The Only Sound Moral Theory

Before I give an account of Error Theory, I will first flesh out moral objectivism and moral skepticism. I will proceed by rejecting moral objectivism. The two branches of moral skepticism—ethical relativism and moral nihilism—will then be discussed. The strongest objections against ethical relativism will be given, and I will explain why they are sufficient to dismiss ethical relativism entirely. Lastly, I will entertain the two branches of moral nihilism: Error Theory and expressivism. I will settle with the former to advance into Section III. of this paper.

Ethical objectivism is the view that moral principles are objectively true. For something to be objectively true is to exist irrespective of societal norms, individual beliefs, or “common sense.”[n2] For example, logical syllogisms and mathematics are objective truths; they do not require people to believe in them to exist. An asteroid could destroy earth, killing all living species and organisms; yet, logic and mathematics would continue in existence. But can the same hold true for morality?

Ethicist Peter A. Graham presents the most sophisticated account for objective morality. His case for objectivism is delivered in two parts: First, we falsely believe certain moral obligations based on partial knowledge; but upon reaching a perfect state of knowledge, we will discern objective moral obligations.[n3] Second, he argues, rather eloquently, that humans inquire—when reflecting on a moral obligation—the right course of action. We think to ourselves in third-person: what am I morally required to do? The point is: we wouldn’t think about correct moral obligations in third-person if they weren’t, in fact, objective.[n4] For what other reason, Graham says, would we do this?

Although compelling at first, Graham’s account is severely flawed. Part one takes for granted that upon reaching a perfect state of knowledge about one’s duty, one will discern an objective moral responsibility. This assumes that complete knowledge of a duty is equivalent to moral responsibility. I can have full information of my duty to be kind to others, yet, how does that make it an objective moral obligation? Further, I may think it’s indeed my objective moral obligation, but my belief could be erroneous. Part one, therefore, fails. In part two, Graham ignores the possibility that we inquire the right course of action because of self-interested desires. That is, I may deliberately inquire the right course of action because I want to make sure I execute an action correctly, which I, in turn, will receive major dividends for a flawless outcome, whilst fulfilling my self-interested desires. Therefore, part two fails as well. Moral objectivism, then, is unsound.

Moral skepticism is an alternative moral theory to moral objectivism. This theory has two branches: moral nihilism and ethical relativism. I will begin with the latter. Ethical relativism is the view that cultures or individuals determine correct moral standards.[n5] They claim that a moral action is right if and only if a society approves of it. So you could live in a place where the enslavement of a particular race or gender is morally permissible as long as society approves. Likewise, you could live in a place where the killing of certain groups of people on a daily-basis is morally permissible, again, as long as society approves. But this seems odd and arbitrary.

Indeed, moral skepticism, like moral objectivism, is problematic. The strongest objection against moral skepticism is that it’s too arbitrary.[n6] Suppose you live in a society where it is morally permissible to have sex in public. In a couple of years, said society no longer approves of sex in public, so it becomes morally impermissible. This is odd because morality now appears superficial; it’s like popularity: one day you have it, and another day you don’t. Moreover, societies may believe in moral principles based on ignorance, prejudice, or narrow-minded thinking. [n7] For example, a society whose citizens all have middling IQs could approve the most egregious moral principles, yet ethical relativists would not care! Ethical relativism has extreme and atrocious implications. Therefore, it is not a sound moral theory.

Finally, I turn to moral nihilism. This theory has two branches: Error Theory and expressivism. Error Theory is the view that moral principles do not exist; nothing is morally good, so nothing can be right or wrong.[n8] Further, this theory asserts that moral claims like “Murder is wrong” are erroneous because there is no moral truth, these claims are, thus, false. Hence, morality is based on an error. Similarly, expressivism is the view that moral principles do not exist.

The difference between these two moral theories is that expressivism, unlike Error Theory, maintains that moral claims are not subject to any error. Moral claims do not aim to describe how the world ought to be; rather, moral claims express our feelings and emotions. The claim, “Torture is immoral” is, according to expressivists, merely saying, “Don’t torture!” or “I find torture unpleasant!”

While expressivism is compelling, there is one major problem with this moral theory. Expressivists distinguish themselves from Error Theorists specifically because they think moral claims have meaning—i.e. to express feelings and emotions. But if this is true, then these claims cannot be called “moral” claims; they must be dubbed, simply, as “claims.” Expressivists do not make this distinction. Error Theorists, nevertheless, do differentiate. They say that moral claims are false because there are no moral principles, but it permits the use of “claims” for the expression of feelings.

One challenge against Error Theory is that it condones behavior like murder, rape, and robbery. But this is false. Error Theory only says there is no right or wrong. An Error Theorists can respond by saying that murder, rape, and robbery are unpleasant, and this is sufficient to eschew said behavior. Another objection is that universal acceptance of Error Theory will lead to catastrophic results.[n9] Yet, this objection does not weaken Error Theory because it doesn’t show that there are indeed moral principles and our moral claims are truth functional. Therefore, Error Theory is the only sound moral theory.

III. xo Critics’ View of Morality

Thus far in this paper I have explained ethical objectivism, the view that moral principles are objectively true. I rejected this moral theory on the basis that its most sophisticated defense is severely flawed. Ethical relativism—the view that societies and humans are authors of moral principles—is explained and rejected on the basis of atrocious implications. Moral nihilism is described; and I explain why Error Theory, although imperfect, is the only sound moral theory. In this section, I will entertain and outline xo critics’ view of morality; their views will be rejected on account of fallacious reasoning.

Leiter, the most vehement critic of xo, makes the following argument:

P1) Posting on any racist, sexist, and classist discussion board is immoral

P2) xo is a racist, sexist, and classist discussion board

- - - - - - - - -

C) Posting on xo is immoral [n10]

Under the principle of charity, let’s suppose premise 2 is true. If premise 1 is also true, then Leiter’s argument is sound, and posting on xo is indeed immoral. But premise 1 is false, and in addition, it begs the question. Leiter argues in a circle because he assumes the existence of moral principles: he presupposes that ethical relativism is correct. In Section II. of this paper, I showed why ethical relativism is not true (because it leads to atrocious implications). Leiter is basing his argument on society’s disapproval of racist, sexist, and classist language. But if society were in favor of such language, would Leiter believe in its moral permissibility? Judging from his argument above, I certainly think he would. Premise 1 is indubitably false; Leiter’s argument fails.

Another critic argues that it’s morally wrong to post on xo because it perpetuates gendered violence and “what is impermissible in the real world should not be permitted in the virtual world.” [n11] This argument’s major flaw is the assumption that the perpetuation of gendered violence is immoral in the real world. As stated above, there are no moral principles: gendered violence is neither moral nor immoral. Therefore this argument is erroneous.

Lastly, Michelle Morris of University of Virginia Law School maintains that law school and bar applications must “request a three-year history of online aliases, e-mail addresses, IP addresses, blogs, and social networking site profile information” in order to screen applicants who may have engaged in immoral online behavior.[n12] But like the two arguments above, this critic presupposes the existence of moral principles. Moral truths do not exist. Therefore, this argument makes an error and is unsound.

My argument in this paper can be summarized as follows:

P1) If there are no moral principles, then there is no right or wrong

P2) Moral claims are true only when there is a right or wrong

P3) There are no moral principles

P4) Our moral claims are always false

SC5) The moral claim: “posting on xo is immoral” is false

- - - - -

C) Posting on xo is not immoral

Although critics cannot claim that posting on xo is immoral, they are permitted to say that posting on xo is unpleasant, weird, geeky, or insane. Moreover, they can express their distaste of the website by not talking to individuals who post. Error Theorists would not see this behavior as a problem, as long as critics do not claim that posting on xo is immoral.

But why do people post on xo? What is the point of authoring a thread filled with racist, sexist, and classist language? Anthony Ciolli makes the distinction between writing on a blog and writing as a journalist.[n13] The latter must adhere to societal norms and cultural values; the former does not. Why? Ciolli argues that writing on a blog is akin to writing in a diary; the major difference is the sharing of diary entries with anonymous individuals. Diaries need not conform to conventions or societal standards. Indeed, xo is like a diary—with entries that steal posters’ hearts, captivate and enthrall imaginations, and move readers to smiles, chills, or tears.

IV. Conclusion

This paper rejects moral objectivism and ethical relativism. An account of Error Theory is given and its challenges are presented. The challenges are later dismissed. I proceed by describing certain moral claims and show why, under an Error Theorists view, they are fallacious in their reasoning. Lastly, I outline my argument in argument form to make clear why posting on xo is not immoral.

Notes:

n1. In accordance with modern word usage in analytic philosophy, I will use “ethics” and “morals” interchangeably.

n2. Anderson, Owen. "Moral objectivity and responsibility in ethics: A socratic response to Hume's legacy in the 20th century." The Heythrop Journal 51, no. 2 (2010): 178-191, p. 180.

n3. Graham, Peter A. "In Defense of Objectivism about Moral Obligation*." Ethics 121, no. 1 (2010): 88-115, p.91

n4. Id. at p. 92.

n5. May, Joshua. "Skeptical hypotheses and moral skepticism." Canadian Journal of Philosophy 43, no. 3 (2013), 341-359, p. 355.

n6. Id. at p. 357

n7. Id. at p. 359

n8. Bloomfield, Paul. "Error Theory and the Concept of Morality." Metaphilosophy 44, no. 4 (2013): 451-469, p. 455.

n9. Id. at p. 459.

n10. Leiter, Brian. “Penn Law Student.” Leiter Reports: A Philosophy Blog, (2007) http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2005/03/penn_law_studen.html.

n11. Heller, Brittan. "Of legal rights and moral wrongs: a case study of internet defamation." Yale JL & Feminism 19 (2007): 279-285, p. 282.

n12. Morris, Michelle. "The Legal Profession, Personal Responsibility, and the Internet." Yale LJ Pocket Part 117 (2007): 53.

n13. Ciolli, Anthony. "Defamatory Internet Speech: A Defense of the Status Quo." QLR 25 (2006): 853-863, p. 854.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25346569)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 4:45 AM
Author: Racy office hominid

lol i remember this thread as the try hardingest bullshit ever, not the thesis is deleted, buh bye scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698830)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 4:57 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

it got reposted

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&mc=108&forum_id=2#25346569

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698850)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:01 AM
Author: Racy office hominid

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698858)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:03 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

ah, those scholarly sweets!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698861)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:03 AM
Author: Racy office hominid

did the poaster go pumo; i mean, was he always pumo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698863)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:05 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

Yeah he went pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698866)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:09 AM
Author: Racy office hominid

lol was it you brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698873)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:10 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

the poster in question is ted cruz and i'm not him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698874)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:11 AM
Author: Racy office hominid

fair nuff, amazing thank you for scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698877)



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Date: June 6th, 2014 5:12 AM
Author: flushed french really tough guy indian lodge

yw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25698879)



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Date: June 8th, 2014 8:32 PM
Author: pungent kitchen roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#25713378)



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Date: July 31st, 2014 9:55 PM
Author: Snowy hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#26038405)



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Date: February 24th, 2015 3:31 AM
Author: Useless coiffed hell nowag

tedcruz' alts are all ITT holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#27381532)



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Date: August 10th, 2015 3:27 AM
Author: charcoal ratface

BANGARANG Gangnam BAC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#28519165)



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Date: January 29th, 2016 10:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house

BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#29710853)



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Date: August 20th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: Dashing Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#34033278)



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Date: April 30th, 2020 2:59 AM
Author: Dashing Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#40121373)



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Date: May 27th, 2021 4:54 PM
Author: Tan heaven coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2502516&forum_id=2#42531066)