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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:38 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell This is my dream. While I'm sure they would recover fine, id love to quit and catch the partners by surprise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217560) |
Date: March 18th, 2014 11:39 PM Author: Red temple Yeah, Like three weeks ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217567) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:40 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Describe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217569) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:41 PM Author: Red temple She'd been at the firm less than two years, was well liked, and gave notice completely out of the blue saying she wanted to move home to Cali. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217582) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:42 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Nice - I like it. How did firm respond?
I'm handling like 1/4 of the matters in my practice area right now, so quitting would really affect the group. I'm sick of being expected to work 24/7 for shit pay |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:44 PM Author: Red temple Nobody really blinked. We're a bit overcapacity right now anyways. But people were pretty surprised she was leaving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217606) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:46 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Yea but we have a small group, so workload would increase dramatically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217619) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:47 PM Author: Red temple The other associates would hate you. Partners would experience a few moments of concern before dumping shit on some other faggot associate. Circle of life, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217634) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:52 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Guess what - I could give a rat's ass abt what the other assoc thinks. You think he/she would consult me before quitting/lateraling? You must be pretty beta to think otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217663) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:53 PM Author: Red temple You must have poor reading comprehension. I didn't say you do or should care or that they would or should either. I just stated what would happen, you angry little man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217675) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:54 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Lol sorry I am kinda riled up bc I'm currently working/billing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217679) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:55 PM Author: Red temple Just cop some seamless and let it do what it do, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217685) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:02 AM Author: Impressive razzmatazz stage corn cake everyone thinks this when they quit a job. in reality though they don't need you as much as you think they do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344284) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:06 PM Author: chartreuse big-titted box office "overcapacity"
GTFO of here you shitboomer partner |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:40 PM Author: passionate hall Few weeks before trial, a girl pwned our trial team hard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217577) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:43 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Love it, tell more. Did she lateral? Just quit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217598) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:43 PM Author: passionate hall She went to some firm with like a 1400 hour requirement where she was the only associate and answered the common phone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217603) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 4:59 PM Author: Topaz Curious Parlour Ceo 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340540) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:29 AM Author: Brass menage sex offender Girl at opposing counsel's did something very similar to this. Another kid on the same team quit in the middle of depos. Their lead partner was openly a dickhead to his associates, and I was surprised the rest stuck around as long as they did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344347) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:42 PM Author: razzle-dazzle deer antler mexican sure do. lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217589) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:43 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Describe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217601) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:50 PM Author: razzle-dazzle deer antler mexican lots of begging, promises, and attempts to counter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217649) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:53 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Hmm - this is interesting. I didn't think BIGLAW counters lateral offers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217668) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:00 PM Author: Topaz Curious Parlour Ceo You should never accept a counter, ever. Unless it's like $1 million cash. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340543) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 8:12 PM Author: stimulating turquoise main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341504) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:44 PM Author: Nighttime gas station sandwich More like, caught co-associates by surprising and fucking them over w/ even more work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217608) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:44 PM Author: passionate hall Yeah this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217613) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:47 PM Author: Irradiated Coiffed Hell Fuck co-associates. We have one life and if I'm not being fairly compensated or am losing my health, nothing else matters. Co-associates can quit if they choose, as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217628) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:49 PM Author: razzle-dazzle deer antler mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217645) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:26 PM Author: motley purple puppy regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342393) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 6:54 PM Author: motley purple puppy regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341088) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:49 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Rusted Hissy Fit We hire two people per class year for a specialty group. One quit 4 months in. Firm was fine, fellow first year was and continues to be completely fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#25217642) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:55 PM Author: passionate hall This is hilarious..
"Phil, Bob is gonna be transferring over his workload." |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:10 PM Author: wonderful juggernaut heaven "No thanks." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340600) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:27 PM Author: motley purple puppy regret "Cute. Phil, Bob was working on an urgent memo and we need it done by tomorrow morning. The materials are on your desk and in your email. THANKS!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342398) |
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Date: March 18th, 2014 11:57 PM Author: sickened spot Happens all the time.
At one point when I was a junior, it was horrible because everyone was billing like mad at my firm and you could lateral with incredible ease. Like 20% of the associates in the group left within the span of a couple months. One left and then more work for other and others left. At the end there was a near mutiny among the associates due to the amount of work so we hired a bunch of shitty laterals to fill the spots to stop the exodus.
Other times, a well regarded associate just gives notice and leaves. |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:00 PM Author: Impertinent Philosopher-king Half-breed Yea, a bro that took paternity leave. Came back and said that he accepted an offer at another firm. Department head was screaming and cursing. Pretty much said that it was unprofessional of him to do that....blah blah blah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340547) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:02 PM Author: passionate hall Yeah, I've seen several dudes and even more chicks PWN the fuck out of big firms with paternity/maternity leave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340560) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:06 PM Author: Impertinent Philosopher-king Half-breed I imagine that it is easier for chicks. I think most male attorneys would be ok with a chick leaving after maternity and believe any excuse provided by her (I am going to x firm because it is closer to my parent's house, and I can drop off lil Daniel there.) I only imagine that shrew attys get pissed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340584) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:03 PM Author: coral center trump supporter My boss literally didn't believe me at first. He totally thought I was kidding. It ended up OK, but he was personally hurt I didn't stick around for 5 more years on his promise 6 years earlier that I would "most likely" make partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340566) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: Brilliant slap-happy mad cow disease Everyone always thinks they're screwing their firm over but the truth is everyone is easily replaceable. People will step in and take the work and new people get hired. It's not that big of a deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340594) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:18 PM Author: beady-eyed indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340653) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:44 PM Author: rough-skinned casino haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341320) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 10:33 AM Author: Floppy mint goal in life yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344547) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:49 PM Author: Excitant harsh space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#40543595) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:15 PM Author: Disrespectful address Lol I lateraled out of the blue and got a screaming call on my cell from my group head later that day while I was chilling on my balcony on a Tues afternoon drinking beer and eating an Italian beef sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340640) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: Impertinent Philosopher-king Half-breed What did he say on the call? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340647) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:32 PM Author: Topaz Curious Parlour Ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340736) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:53 PM Author: Disrespectful address "Who just joined" All this shit about unprofessional, leaving us in the lurch, you don't treat people this way, etc. This from a guy who had laid off tons of people in past years and generally been a giant bastard forever. I listened politely and then said it didn't seem that different from the layoffs the firm had done, not personal, just a business decision. He said "That's COMPLETELY different! Blah blah blah"
All associates and partners I worked with were like "sorry to lose you but congrats on getting out" |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:33 PM Author: Impertinent Philosopher-king Half-breed lol. Nice play brother.
"That's COMPLETELY different! Blah blah blah" Yea, the layoffs helped him cop a new entertainment system, your departure is going to force him to interview laterals. |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:16 PM Author: beady-eyed indian lodge TBH it sounds like you want to be a special snowflake and have everyone weep and wish you were staying. It's not going to be like that, sry, you're a cog. Even if you're a really good cog, they'll get over it in a day and replace you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340645) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 5:18 PM Author: Costumed Son Of Senegal I did. No one cared that much. Most associates are pretty replaceable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26340656) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 6:49 PM Author: Glittery Painfully Honest Garrison This is my fucking dream. I was working crazy hours, with no end in sight, while waiting for the response from a job interview. I was the only person who knew the main matter I was on and they would be fucked if I left. I would daydream about putting in my notice and agreeing to stay through the end of the big matter for a spot bonus of 100k
Then, ding letter in the mail. I read every word of the ding letter and didn't breathe the entire time |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:08 PM Author: Green Office Sneaky Criminal every job I've ever quit, I've legitimately felt bad for leaving my coworkers and boss in the lurch
then again, never worked BIGLAW |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:35 PM Author: swollen dragon weed whacker One of our associates in SHITLAW just gave notice and everyone is in utter shock, because he was THE GOLDEN BOY, THE RISING STAR, etc..
The partners have been shitting on everyone all year and now they're panicking because the already-low employee morale at the firm has taken a huge hit: the Wonder Boy decided "This place blows, fuck this shit, I'm done here."
On the plus side, I got along with him SPLENDIDLY and now I have another outside reference for MY job search.
Circle-jerk of life, brosquito. |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:39 PM Author: Citrine piazza An associate at my first firm thought she was going to do that because she was treated like a dog by a notoriously abusive partner. The partner left for a two week European vacation about five weeks before a huge trial. The associate, who was the main lawyer doing the trial prep, waited until about one hour after the scheduled departure time for the partner's flight and walked out cold. She thought it would cripple the partner. When he found out, he scheduled a two-hour telephone call with the executive committee, got his case re-staffed, and spent two weeks enjoying Paris. Like a baller. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341301) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:43 PM Author: Topaz Curious Parlour Ceo win some lose some (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341316) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 8:19 PM Author: haunting plaza she should have walked out the morning of the first day of the trial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341560) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:40 PM Author: frum crawly candlestick maker point cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342479) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:04 PM Author: clear heady bawdyhouse sound barrier shoulda waited until like 3 days in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342247) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:56 PM Author: cerebral fanboi Have to provide the counter to it fucking over associates. Small biglaw office had 2 associates poached recently, and my workload has dramatically decreased. The kid gloves are completely on and partners stop by multiple times a day just to ask how I am doing. Keeping a transactional associate has become impossible. Now that it's starting to hurt the pocketbooks of partners I've seen a huge behavioral shift in terms of how mid levels are treated. It's an awesome time. Most firms have, I am pretty sure, had extensive meetings telling partners to put on the kid gloves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341393) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:57 PM Author: Effete trailer park same thing happened after 40% of associates left my group in a 6 month span.
But it's hilarious how clueless they were in trying to make things better - e.g., offering baseball tickets every once in awhile and hiring a yoga instructor to come onsite once. |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 7:58 PM Author: Disrespectful address Dead cat bounce, but it is cr while it lasts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26341407) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:18 PM Author: motley purple puppy regret Guys, this is a hilarious associate wet dream. Biglaw has HUGE turnover. People walk off all the fucking time. Firms literally have systems for restaffing cases on an urgent basis in case someone "blows up" or "blows off". The notion that business will come to a stop because your worker bee ass walks out the door is positively delusional. If that asshole rainmaker partner walks out the door THEN the shit hits the fan. If you do it then it is basically nbd, except for the other worker bees that have to pick up your slack. Of course, partners don't gaf if they have to work 80 hour weeks instead of 60. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342341) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 10:10 AM Author: motley purple puppy regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344457) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:31 PM Author: clear heady bawdyhouse sound barrier actually if a biglaw rainmaker leaves midyear, it costs him his whole year end draw which is backloaded to be like 80% of his entire annual draw and firm continues to collect all billables for billed time. so in the short-term, there is not a huge disruption. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345149) |
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Date: September 16th, 2014 10:40 PM Author: Walnut awkward resort our keurig machine left to start an organic coffee startup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26342482) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 8:28 AM Author: boyish unhinged place of business When I quit biglaw, the annoying thing was they took the two week period to extract as much value as possible. Dumped all this urgent work on me. Whatever possible regret I had over leaving was gone.
I was so senior that the other associates thought my departure increased their partnership prospects by a couple percentage points, so no one really cared. |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 8:29 AM Author: passionate hall Just turn shit down and drag your feet on everything. They'll get the message. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344215) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 8:34 AM Author: swashbuckling plum reading party Almost nobody does this. The type of human being who finds themself in biglaw in the first place is not wired this way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344218) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 8:41 AM Author: passionate hall Quite a few people do this their last two weeks. Just drag your feet, then on the last day, mention what all needs to be reassigned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344239) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:11 AM Author: twisted ivory fortuitous meteor I had some douchebag partner who was resentful of the fact that I was leaving ask me to put together a bunch of shit for a pitch in a tight time frame. Such an asshole. Actually had the nerve to ride my ass about it, calling every couple hours to find out when I'd be delivering it. Obviously tempted to tell him to fuck off but didn't want to put years of goodwill at risk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344300) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:34 AM Author: Ruby 180 factory reset button state ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344358) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:34 AM Author: Brass menage sex offender I've never had to do this, but I've always thought my two weeks notice would coincide with the day before my two-week-long vacation. Do people not do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344359) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:36 PM Author: motley purple puppy regret No because that is two weeks of pay unless you're at an "unlimited vacation" firm in which case this is obviously tcr.
I just rejected work saying I was "busy wrapping up and transitioning matters". |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:08 AM Author: Impressive razzmatazz stage corn cake This thread inspired me to look for other jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26344292) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:25 PM Author: Arousing Know-it-all Faggot Firefighter Home I do know a couple people who've made partner and then left within a year or two to pursue other interests, when by all appearances they were in perfectly good standing with their firms. I don't know that it actually hurt the firms in any way, but it did catch them by surprise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345109) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:27 PM Author: Topaz Curious Parlour Ceo Firm is probably like, thanks for the capital contribution and the interest we made on both it and our loan to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345129) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:27 PM Author: chartreuse big-titted box office yes, this is always surprising and a little weird (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345130) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:32 PM Author: clear heady bawdyhouse sound barrier new partners always say it's a whole new level of stress (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345159) |
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Date: September 17th, 2014 12:33 PM Author: passionate hall I've seen this too. They strive and work like a slave for over a decade to make it to the promised land. Then they realize the promised land still sucks and they are still working like slaves. So, I imagine they say something like "fuck the money, I need to get out while I still have a few good years of my life left." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2521563&forum_id=2#26345170) |