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Hastings is now literally a fourth tier toilet

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/04/aba-releases...
rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster
  04/13/14
Serious question: When was Hastings ever NOT a TTT?
comical smoky senate
  07/11/14
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Zombie-like pea-brained wrinkle
  07/27/18
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grizzly corner
  04/13/14
so this means that if your choice is between oklahoma city a...
racy stead pozpig
  04/13/14
just LOL at FORDHAM
aromatic house-broken principal's office
  04/13/14
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grizzly corner
  04/13/14
just lol at how some of these school so obviously lie and in...
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/13/14
Who wants to practice law anyway?
titillating area community account
  04/13/14
lmfao at tulane. top 5% at hasting is a lock for quinn em...
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
How did Iowa do so well?
Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine
  04/13/14
70% of their students are in-state proles with little debt h...
trip topaz church building immigrant
  04/13/14
CR. small class size + shit jobs in buttfuckville midwest.
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
Helpful hint: ALL of the Midwest = Buttfuckville
comical smoky senate
  04/13/14
DONT B MEAN 2 DENVER!!11!!!!1
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
Interesting... I don't think of Denver as "Midwest.&quo...
comical smoky senate
  04/14/14
Aurora, Bro here. It isn't. Never has been. Anybody...
Galvanic hilarious rehab blood rage
  04/14/14
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Chestnut Balding Stock Car
  04/14/14
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Ruby Yapping Sanctuary
  06/01/14
(guy not familiar with one of XO's only funny original memes...
Histrionic house fortuitous meteor
  04/14/14
ok then explain utah, wisconsin, and fordham
Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine
  04/13/14
Fordham is the exact opposite: private school, high tuition,...
trip topaz church building immigrant
  04/13/14
rofl guy who missed my cheap shot at fordham no seriously...
Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine
  04/13/14
Iowa is smaller than Wisconsin, with less immediate competit...
trip topaz church building immigrant
  04/13/14
they're probably lying, but perhaps Iowa (like Alabama) is s...
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/13/14
Roll Tide, Motherfucker!
Ruby Yapping Sanctuary
  04/14/14
probably lying. no reason iowa should be better off than oth...
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/13/14
RIGHT? you know me so well.
Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine
  04/13/14
They must have some 180 career services person personally pl...
trip topaz church building immigrant
  04/13/14
sometimes an active and well connected CSO is a real differe...
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
Just do $300k in debt to attend Hastings for a 41% chance at...
navy corn cake shitlib
  04/13/14
It is lulzy
grizzly corner
  04/13/14
The Battle of Hastings "You guys, if we win this, WE...
comical smoky senate
  04/13/14
but let's open another california public law school, guys (c...
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/13/14
Hay Stings
comical smoky senate
  04/13/14
boomer scum
Mustard awkward mexican
  04/13/14
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navy corn cake shitlib
  04/13/14
Just do #90 overall employment rate Just do 77% bar passage...
rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster
  04/13/14
Boomers got dat profit center going. No matter the thousands...
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/14/14
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rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster
  04/14/14
chemerinsky should be jailed for UCI
Floppy Vengeful Church
  07/27/18
the xo poaster who ordered a bomb threat there and got expel...
Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine
  04/13/14
Yeah, in retrospect Trustafarian had the last laugh.
bossy ultramarine international law enforcement agency field
  04/26/14
What the fuck is wrong with you? Iowa ARE COUNTRY is paradis...
Curious scarlet base
  04/13/14
^seriously excellent. you just made me LOL. tyty
comical smoky senate
  04/13/14
You are dumber than a nigger with herpes
pungent resort laser beams
  04/13/14
You city boys hang out with dumb niggers that have herpes. N...
Curious scarlet base
  04/13/14
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sienna tattoo
  04/13/14
he has a valid point. 90% of the people who insist on living...
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
lol at emory, lol at w & m
multi-colored bearded sound barrier stage
  04/13/14
why does indiana continue to do just well enough?
exciting forum trust fund
  04/13/14
lol what a fucking turd. they could close half of the CA ...
bespoke set
  04/13/14
i knew a guy who was seriously torn between UC-Davis and tak...
irradiated pisswyrm
  04/13/14
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grizzly corner
  04/13/14
woah u know diesel?
Mauve hospital hissy fit
  04/14/14
every sentence was painful to read. wow...
Henna Plaza Nibblets
  04/14/14
damn - he laid out like a quarter mil on LS?
bespoke set
  04/14/14
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fuchsia site
  04/14/14
NSFW!
heady den party of the first part
  04/14/14
where's hastings
Tan gas station masturbator
  04/14/14
LULZ @ GULC. Cleatly this study is biased against our natio...
big-titted ratface milk
  04/14/14
In all fairness, they are only two spots behind Y
navy corn cake shitlib
  04/14/14
check you're JD Advantage jobs, bro
Judgmental concupiscible patrolman
  04/14/14
Kinda surprised Depaul came in at a 2.3 -- Isn't Depaul Law ...
contagious lavender business firm jew
  04/14/14
lol
multi-colored bearded sound barrier stage
  04/14/14
Lol
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grizzly corner
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grizzly corner
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rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster
  06/01/14
Frank Wu is ready. He's got visual aids, the assistance of a...
rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster
  07/07/14
L J L brothers ljl
bespoke set
  07/07/14
SWAYJIN! COCK-SUCKER!!
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  07/11/14
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trip topaz church building immigrant
  07/11/14
LOL'ed at this again
trip topaz church building immigrant
  09/04/14
we have a hastings gal at our firm. she is kyooot
effete jewess
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Deranged adventurous degenerate
  11/21/14
Our firm is hiring Hastings first years (who did well) for $...
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  11/21/14


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Date: April 13th, 2014 6:06 PM
Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/04/aba-releases-.html

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/04/law-school.html

LOLOLOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377496)



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Date: July 11th, 2014 7:07 PM
Author: comical smoky senate

Serious question: When was Hastings ever NOT a TTT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25912926)



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Date: July 27th, 2018 8:59 AM
Author: Zombie-like pea-brained wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#36506259)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 6:13 PM
Author: grizzly corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377538)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 6:15 PM
Author: racy stead pozpig

so this means that if your choice is between oklahoma city and USC, you take oklahoma?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377542)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 6:39 PM
Author: aromatic house-broken principal's office

just LOL at FORDHAM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377655)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 7:54 PM
Author: grizzly corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378002)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 7:11 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

just lol at how some of these school so obviously lie and inflate their stats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377766)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 7:53 PM
Author: titillating area community account

Who wants to practice law anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25377995)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 7:57 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

lmfao at tulane.

top 5% at hasting is a lock for quinn emanuel!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378019)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 7:59 PM
Author: Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine

How did Iowa do so well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378028)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:01 PM
Author: trip topaz church building immigrant

70% of their students are in-state proles with little debt happy to take 35k in-state shitlaw jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378034)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:04 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

CR. small class size + shit jobs in buttfuckville midwest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378053)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:09 PM
Author: comical smoky senate

Helpful hint: ALL of the Midwest = Buttfuckville

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378088)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:03 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

DONT B MEAN 2 DENVER!!11!!!!1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378425)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 7:33 AM
Author: comical smoky senate

Interesting... I don't think of Denver as "Midwest." Not at all. Never have, really. In my mind, Midwest = flat/cornfields/fat chicks with bad perms/prolest of the proles

Denver is in the Rockies, totally different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380587)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 8:41 AM
Author: Galvanic hilarious rehab blood rage

Aurora, Bro here.

It isn't.

Never has been.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a fucking idiot.

*Goes back to watching Primetime television @ 7:00 p.m.*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380646)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:16 PM
Author: Chestnut Balding Stock Car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382538)



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Date: June 1st, 2014 5:05 PM
Author: Ruby Yapping Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25668588)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:13 PM
Author: Histrionic house fortuitous meteor

(guy not familiar with one of XO's only funny original memes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382522)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:05 PM
Author: Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine

ok then explain utah, wisconsin, and fordham

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378055)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:08 PM
Author: trip topaz church building immigrant

Fordham is the exact opposite: private school, high tuition, high col, everyone gunning for biglaw. LSU, Kentucky, Alabama, etc, always send a really high percentage to firms, because there are all these 1-10 person firms in-state and they're the only game in town. Maybe Iowa is similar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378080)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:09 PM
Author: Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine

rofl guy who missed my cheap shot at fordham

no seriously tho no known reason why iowa does so disproportionately well compared to the utahs and wisconsins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378095)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:12 PM
Author: trip topaz church building immigrant

Iowa is smaller than Wisconsin, with less immediate competition. Also places better in biglaw than Wisconsin, which trails the Iowa/Minn/tOSU/Indiana every year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378110)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:39 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

they're probably lying, but perhaps Iowa (like Alabama) is so undesirable of a place to live that the local schools get no competition from nationally-recognized schools. places like Colorado and Utah have a ton of bros who move away for T14s and then return looking for a job after graduation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378275)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 8:50 AM
Author: Ruby Yapping Sanctuary

Roll Tide, Motherfucker!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380661)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:07 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

probably lying. no reason iowa should be better off than other in-state flyover schools, unless i'm missing some kind of iowa legal boom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378065)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:07 PM
Author: Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine

RIGHT? you know me so well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378074)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:21 PM
Author: trip topaz church building immigrant

They must have some 180 career services person personally placing everyone in a 35k shitlaw job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378177)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:07 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

sometimes an active and well connected CSO is a real difference maker. likewise, a shitty or incompetent one will fucking screw class after class of law grads.

the head of career services at my TTT school was a nepotism appointee who had never worked in the law, had just recently moved to the state, and had zero experience of connections. when anyone would go in and ask her about jobs in a particular market, her advice was always to read a local newspaper, try to find stories about local attorneys, and then send them letters saying you saw the the article and are impressed with them/interested in what they do. not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378444)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:02 PM
Author: navy corn cake shitlib

Just do $300k in debt to attend Hastings for a 41% chance at finding legal employment upon graduation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378043)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:05 PM
Author: grizzly corner

It is lulzy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378058)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:08 PM
Author: comical smoky senate

The Battle of Hastings

"You guys, if we win this, WE GET HASTINGS."

"Yay, Hastings!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378075)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:07 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

but let's open another california public law school, guys (chemerinsky)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378073)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:08 PM
Author: comical smoky senate

Hay Stings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378077)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:11 PM
Author: Mustard awkward mexican

boomer scum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378105)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:19 PM
Author: navy corn cake shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378162)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:05 PM
Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster

Just do #90 overall employment rate

Just do 77% bar passage rate

Just do increase class size from 60 to 200

Just do $50,000/year "public" school tuition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378436)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:31 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

Boomers got dat profit center going. No matter the thousands of lives they are destroying. Lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382637)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 7:06 PM
Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25383437)



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Date: July 27th, 2018 9:13 AM
Author: Floppy Vengeful Church

chemerinsky should be jailed for UCI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#36506305)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:07 PM
Author: Pearl bawdyhouse dopamine

the xo poaster who ordered a bomb threat there and got expelled in 2009 ended up better off. lol libs, explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378069)



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Date: April 26th, 2014 4:11 PM
Author: bossy ultramarine international law enforcement agency field

Yeah, in retrospect Trustafarian had the last laugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25452507)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:10 PM
Author: Curious scarlet base

What the fuck is wrong with you? Iowa ARE COUNTRY is paradise. Sorry you can't get Ethiopian-Canadian-Icelandic fusion food after the Opera while riding the subway with Darnell and his posse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378097)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:14 PM
Author: comical smoky senate

^seriously excellent. you just made me LOL. tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378126)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:14 PM
Author: pungent resort laser beams

You are dumber than a nigger with herpes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378133)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:42 PM
Author: Curious scarlet base

You city boys hang out with dumb niggers that have herpes. Not us strapping white are country freedom-havers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378285)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:54 PM
Author: sienna tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378820)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:09 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

he has a valid point. 90% of the people who insist on living in a major city do nothing to take advantage of their location.

think of retards like TMF who claim that they could never live anywhere except NYC/Shitcago, and yet spend 29 evenings out of every month watching netflix with their frumpy wives or playing video games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378457)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 8:48 PM
Author: multi-colored bearded sound barrier stage

lol at emory, lol at w & m

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378325)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:08 PM
Author: exciting forum trust fund

why does indiana continue to do just well enough?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378452)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:12 PM
Author: bespoke set

lol what a fucking turd.

they could close half of the CA law schools and no one would blink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378480)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:57 PM
Author: irradiated pisswyrm

i knew a guy who was seriously torn between UC-Davis and taking an $10K 'scholarship' at loyola. i wanted to fucking slap him but couldn't bring myself to crush his dreams.

ended up at UC-Davis, now works for a solo shitlawyer who almost exclusively does car accidents and divorces. makes $40K living in L.A. and was unemployed for a year before he got that job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378838)



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Date: April 13th, 2014 9:58 PM
Author: grizzly corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25378845)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:32 PM
Author: Mauve hospital hissy fit

woah u know diesel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382647)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 7:11 PM
Author: Henna Plaza Nibblets

every sentence was painful to read. wow...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25383462)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 7:26 PM
Author: bespoke set

damn - he laid out like a quarter mil on LS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25383534)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 8:44 AM
Author: fuchsia site

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-07-07/1310016961873.gif

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380650)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:33 PM
Author: heady den party of the first part

NSFW!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382650)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 8:49 AM
Author: Tan gas station masturbator

where's hastings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380656)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 8:53 AM
Author: big-titted ratface milk

LULZ @ GULC. Cleatly this study is biased against our nation's great LAW CENTERS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25380665)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:20 PM
Author: navy corn cake shitlib

In all fairness, they are only two spots behind Y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25384223)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:34 PM
Author: Judgmental concupiscible patrolman

check you're JD Advantage jobs, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25384310)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 4:30 PM
Author: contagious lavender business firm jew

Kinda surprised Depaul came in at a 2.3 -- Isn't Depaul Law pretty good?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25382629)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:29 PM
Author: multi-colored bearded sound barrier stage

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2542771&forum_id=2#25384284)



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Date: July 7th, 2014 7:48 PM
Author: Lascivious Center

Lol

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Date: April 25th, 2014 3:32 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2014 11:37 AM
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Date: June 1st, 2014 4:57 PM
Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster



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Date: July 7th, 2014 6:36 PM
Author: rambunctious fantasy-prone fanboi toaster

Frank Wu is ready. He's got visual aids, the assistance of a research analyst, and a laptop that's booted and flipped open. His sleeves are rolled up and he's set to talk rankings.

It's a presentation the dean of UC-Hastings College of the Law has given before.

Wu is trying to pull Hastings out of a yearslong dive in the rankings. The school was ranked 19th by U.S. News and World Report in 1992, and 42nd when Wu arrived in 2010. This year, after it slipped to 54 from 48, Wu wrote to reassure students and alumni that despite getting clobbered by the bleak hiring climate, UC-Hastings remains among the top law schools in the nation.

He would like to change the subject. He'd probably rather talk about his efforts to retool the 136-year-old institution for the high-tech economy, touting its commitment to practical-skills training and its proximity to the Bay Area's thrumming startup scene.

But most of the steps the school has taken on his watch—rolling out new clinics, slashing class size, raising and then stabilizing tuition—were at least in part aimed at combating the slide in the rankings. That they haven't worked better, Wu said, is due to fewer applicants and fewer jobs for law grads in California.

Wu, who was recently reappointed to his position through 2020, says he underestimated the plunge in demand for a law degree. "I predicted the collapse of legal education," he said, "but I didn't quite predict how bad it would be."

To some extent it's too soon to tell if Wu has made the right moves in the face of a perfect storm of pressure. The administration's decision to cut class size in 2012 by roughly 20 percent, which made national news and branded Wu a maverick in the staid world of legal education, won't fully pay off until those graduates hit the job market.

Like most deans, Wu has plenty of gripes about the rankings, but says he can't afford to ignore them.

"Prospective students care. Our faculty care, staff care, alumni care, I care. Our board cares. If I stood up and said, 'I don't care about U.S. News. I'm going to pay no attention to U.S. News,' if I used obscenity and other inappropriate language, I would be removed of my responsibilities," he said. "So, U.S. News is a looming presence, and to rail against it is futile."

Hastings' clinical training ranked 25th this year, although even that's down from 20th the year Wu arrived.

But law professor Robin Feldman, head of the school's Institute for Innovation Law and a prominent voice on patent reform, said Wu understands the importance of science and technology in the modern legal economy.

"It helps to be at the heart of Silicon Valley," but it's also important to have an entrepreneurial spirit, which Wu has, Feldman said. "Frank gives new ideas a chance and he supports those that take off."

MAVERICK DEAN

Early in his academic career, Wu worked as a clinical professor at Washington, D.C.'s Howard University School of Law before becoming dean at Wayne State University Law School in Detroit from 2004-08. Wu also spent a decade as a trustee of Gallaudet University, a school for the deaf and hard of hearing, where he was inspired by university president I. King Jordan to pursue work in education administration.

"Instead of changing the world in little tiny bits and pieces, [Jordan] was able to change a whole institution," said Wu, who lives in San Francisco with his wife, Hastings professor Carol Izumi, and dog Bebe.

In 2003, Wu, the son of Chinese immigrants, published "Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White" examining affirmative action, immigration and other issues through his experience as an Asian-American. More recently, Wu has become an industrious blogger, writing for law school forums, LinkedIn and the Huffington Post on everything from faculty compensation to Sherlock Holmes to his beloved motorcycle, a tricked-out Honda Hawk GT, custom painted British racing green.

Wu has cultivated an image as a savvy thinker on the future of legal education. For two years in a row, he's been named one of the top five most influential people in the sector by National Jurist magazine.

Wu jokes that he has a speech for every subject. Asked what he wants Hastings to look like in 2020, Wu launches into what turns into an hourlong lecture on the state of the legal market, the state of legal education and Hastings' responses. Boiled down, he'd like to position Hastings as a skills-oriented, Pacific Rim school.

"We're here to train people to be problem solvers and leaders using the law," Wu said. "We are not here to train law professors, we are not here as a theoretical institute."

Kevin Johnson, dean of UC-Davis School of Law, said Wu has been putting resources into the right programs, "tightening the belt where that was necessary but at the same time making sure skills training that students need and employers demand is being provided and expanded.

"He's addressed things head-on," Johnson said.

But the school's tumble in the rankings has created an opening for critics. Wu's a talker more than a listener and his in-your-face style is not always welcome.

Hastings professor Rory Little, a big supporter, calls Wu the most energetic leader the school has had in 20 years, but says there has been some discontent.

"Some faculty wish Frank would spend more time making academic connections with the faculty, sit in their office and say 'So tell me about your work,'" he said. "He doesn't have time to do that. His job is to raise money and to keep us moving forward."

Wu's focus on practical skills over pure legal theory also has some detractors. "He can be threatening to the sort of academic who wants to stay in their office and publish an article every year or two," Little said.

The dean is also taking heat from graduates unhappy with the school's downward trajectory in the U.S. News rankings. "There isn't a day that goes by when I don't go out and have some alum berate me," Wu said.

It's a point that fires up Los Angeles-based Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton partner Moe Keshavarzi, a Hastings alum who serves on the firm's recruiting committee.

"Alums have a right to be concerned, but they have power in this process," he said. In addition to "taking the checkbook out," alums need to play a role in employment.

"Dean Wu cannot increase the hiring of Hastings graduates without the help of Hastings alums," he said.

OUTRUNNING THE RANKINGS

Wu likes to say there are three big problems in legal education: too many graduates flooding the job market, law school's high cost and its tendency to produce graduates without the right job skills.

It creates something of a game of whack-a-mole for any dean. Cut class size or invest in curriculum and simple economics creates pressure to raise tuition in order to pay for it.

As a stand-alone law school, UC-Hastings can't turn to a central campus for help through financial rough spots. Hastings is affiliated with the University of California system, but not governed by the Board of Regents, which means it gets state funding directly from the Legislature. Its annual allocation over the past decade has averaged $8.9 million, a 30 percent drop from the prior decade.

But Hastings' structure also means a slimmer bureaucracy and "the ability to move quickly and decisively," something other law school deans envy, said UC-Davis' Johnson.

In 2012, UC-Hastings reduced its incoming class by nearly 100 students. To cover the loss of tuition revenue, Wu cut the equivalent of 23 full-time staff positions. The school also raised in-state tuition nearly 30 percent between 2010 and 2012. Since then, it has remained roughly unchanged at approximately $48,000, and Wu is pushing hard to raise revenue through fundraising, bringing in about $6 million in the 2012 fiscal year.

"Some credit is due for keeping tuition flat," said Kyle McEntee, executive director of the nonprofit Law School Transparency. However, McEntee notes that holding "really high" tuition stable isn't exactly a win for students. California law schools such as UC-Irvine, Pepperdine University, Santa Clara University and the University of San Diego have done a better job of controlling tuition, he said.

Wu is addressing the cost of legal education in other ways. This year the school announced a program to allow UC-Santa Cruz seniors to enroll as first-year law students, shaving a year off of their combined bachelor's and graduate education. To turn out graduates with more practical skills, there's a new research consortium with UCSF School of Medicine and a nonprofit called Lawyers for America, which partners with governments and nonprofits to give law students two years of classroom education and two years of fellowship experience.

Hastings has also increased online education and added several new clinics. Last year, it introduced a one-year master's program for business and technology professionals.

About two years ago, Hastings rolled out the Startup Legal Garage, run by Feldman, which pairs students with early stage tech and biotech companies overseen pro bono by outside lawyers.

But the biggest drag on Hastings' rank is student employment rates. U.S. News weighs the percent of grads employed in full-time, permanent jobs for which a law degree is a requirement or an advantage. Only 47 percent of last year's Hastings grads could claim that distinction.

Wu has joined with other California law school deans in demanding U.S. News change its methodology, which they say penalizes schools in states with high overall unemployment.

The rankings criteria also favor students going into Big Law jobs, Wu said in an open letter published on the school's website earlier this year. The "full-time, permanent" formula disadvantages a school such as Hastings, whose graduates are more likely to pursue public-sector and public-interest employment, he argues.

"The 'new normal' for hiring into these jobs is no longer immediate, full-time, permanent employment. It includes hiring later, part time, or on a temporary basis as the pipeline into full-time, permanent roles," he said.

Wu's efforts to move up the rankings have been hurt by a roughly 40 percent plunge in law school applicants since 2010. Slashing the number of admittees should have allowed Hastings to be choosier, but in choosing from that much smaller applicant pool, the average grade point average of its incoming students instead dropped to its lowest point in a decade.

Raising average admittee GPA was a key goal of a task force Wu launched in 2010 to look at ways to boost the school's U.S. News standing. This year, he established another rankings task force.

"No. 1, we want to be as aggressive as we possibly can be," he said. "But No. 2, we won't cheat. And I won't do anything that's educationally unsound."

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Date: September 4th, 2014 4:00 PM
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Date: July 7th, 2014 7:44 PM
Author: effete jewess

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Date: September 4th, 2014 3:54 PM
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Date: November 21st, 2014 6:30 PM
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Date: November 21st, 2014 6:32 PM
Author: Lilac passionate location

Our firm is hiring Hastings first years (who did well) for $85k....literally what we otherwise pay secretaries. It is pretty 180 (for us), as they are pretty smart and a monkey can handle first year work anyway.

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