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Lawyers, who are the BEST CLIENTS to work with?

Doctors are pretty good. They're usually smart. They can ...
ivory brunch hominid
  04/14/14
You dumb faggot. Go hang yourself.
slate flatulent area dingle berry
  04/14/14
No, he's correct.
Curious mad-dog skullcap locale
  04/15/14
Dumb ones who know they're dumb
rebellious rehab codepig
  04/14/14
The problem is that they can't help you when you need it. ...
ivory brunch hominid
  04/14/14
I'd still prefer dumb. It may not be helpful, but it's the l...
rebellious rehab codepig
  04/14/14
lol so true
Turquoise Space Lettuce
  04/15/14
obviously the best clients are large companies with in-house...
opaque hateful box office dragon
  04/14/14
They are good, but sometimes they have a "litigation ma...
ivory brunch hominid
  04/14/14
then maybe a small hedge fund or something, which doesn't ha...
opaque hateful box office dragon
  04/14/14
The kind with stellar creditworthiness and/or who put large ...
Maize national
  04/14/14
Nonsense. Some of those people are better clients than ot...
ivory brunch hominid
  04/14/14
Nope. The only thing that matters is 100% guarantee of gett...
Maize national
  04/14/14
Yfwgi. I work for one client that dropped a term sheet on m...
Translucent wild masturbator
  04/14/14
the value of your own clients differs from your firm's cliet...
Pink tantric tanning salon
  04/14/14
he's not flame slight exaggeration. sure, there are some gu...
startled boiling water hospital
  04/15/14
Mexicans
Ultramarine parlour roast beef
  04/14/14
THE ONES THAT PAY YOU
frisky background story church
  04/14/14
...
Azure Heady Azn
  04/15/14
self-financed real estate developers
Carmine 180 Ticket Booth Boltzmann
  04/14/14
any company with a competent GC who deals with you but who a...
aqua travel guidebook preventive strike
  04/14/14
"any company with a competent GC who deals with you but...
ivory brunch hominid
  04/14/14
Deep pockets, don't pester you much, consistent steady work,...
Kink-friendly Swashbuckling Temple
  04/14/14
Pestering = easiest billables this side of large-invite conf...
Maize national
  04/14/14
Protip: padding is the easiest billables. WHy listen to clie...
rebellious rehab codepig
  04/14/14
touche'
Maize national
  04/14/14
mfcr. any billable event that has time accountability (i.e.,...
opaque hateful box office dragon
  04/14/14
Yeah, and it's not like you get paid by the hour anyways.
Alcoholic sienna mad cow disease menage
  04/14/14
like, say, a home insurance company doling out small-time cl...
laughsome ebony knife range
  04/14/14
IME, clients who are not risk averse and deal with transacti...
chartreuse bearded den
  04/14/14
Ardor'd, rageful institutional clients, who sing of war and ...
Blathering reading party house
  04/14/14
haha
Haunting Angry Theater Coffee Pot
  04/15/14
Insured ones. When insurance pays and clients get to general...
Ocher bull headed trailer park
  04/14/14
No. Fighting with insurance is horrible.
chartreuse bearded den
  04/15/14
are former startup tech clients chill and fratty or terrible...
marvelous goal in life
  04/15/14
ones with lots of money.
Excitant orange native
  04/15/14
In my field (family law), professional, educated men.
Garnet Fiercely-loyal Piazza
  04/15/14
Expound? Are you doing like father's rights stuff? Or divorc...
Crimson Cruise Ship
  04/15/14
The best clients for me have the following characteristics: ...
Cerise dilemma
  04/15/14


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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: ivory brunch hominid

Doctors are pretty good.

They're usually smart. They can meaningfully participate in their case where necessary. They pay their bills. But, unlike some of their WebMD-searching patients, they don't usually think they know everything, so they'll usually follow your advice as long as you can explain what's going on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382922)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 11:42 PM
Author: slate flatulent area dingle berry

You dumb faggot.

Go hang yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25385135)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 10:41 PM
Author: Curious mad-dog skullcap locale

No, he's correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25390401)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: rebellious rehab codepig

Dumb ones who know they're dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382932)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: ivory brunch hominid

The problem is that they can't help you when you need it.

For instance, they might not recall events or can't search their e-mail to find helpful documents. They're also hard to prepare for depositions and trial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382940)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:36 PM
Author: rebellious rehab codepig

I'd still prefer dumb. It may not be helpful, but it's the least stressful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382997)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 10:42 PM
Author: Turquoise Space Lettuce

lol so true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25390409)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:22 PM
Author: opaque hateful box office dragon

obviously the best clients are large companies with in-house lawyers who were former biglaw and know the game and don't bitch about bills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382933)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: ivory brunch hominid

They are good, but sometimes they have a "litigation manager" or something who will bust your balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382943)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:26 PM
Author: opaque hateful box office dragon

then maybe a small hedge fund or something, which doesn't have a full time lawyer on staff, and is making an absolute shitload and realize the biglaw bill is a blip on the radar of whatever deal they're doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382949)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:23 PM
Author: Maize national

The kind with stellar creditworthiness and/or who put large amounts of money in trust. Nothing else matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382935)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: ivory brunch hominid

Nonsense.

Some of those people are better clients than others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382946)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:38 PM
Author: Maize national

Nope. The only thing that matters is 100% guarantee of getting paid. If you have that, it's all the same.

I see people bitching about problem clients and needy clients and that is fucking amateur horseshit. My best client calls me all the fucking time to whine and bitch and complain about everything in his life. And it's generally a huge pain in my ass. And I bill him for all of it, and he pays immediately. And I love him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383006)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 6:34 PM
Author: Translucent wild masturbator

Yfwgi. I work for one client that dropped a term sheet on me Saturday at 11 am for a deal they wanted closed by Tuesday. Tracking back through the emails I could see that the deal and term sheet had been kicking around about a month beforehand. Dropping it on a Saturday was simply a way to cap my firm's fees at 2 lawyers' fees x 72 hours. That's a fucking asshole client and I've certainly worked for ones who would never pull some kind of shit like that. So, contrary to your retarded post, some paying clients are better than others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383282)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 6:39 PM
Author: Pink tantric tanning salon

the value of your own clients differs from your firm's clietns

own clients = anyone who pays

firm clients = anyone who doesnt bother you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383302)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 1:46 AM
Author: startled boiling water hospital

he's not flame

slight exaggeration. sure, there are some guarantee pay clients who are better than others, but the rating of clients is a tight cluster of all of the sure-pay clients way at the end of the bell curve.

then, way way way back on the other side of a typical bell curve hump there are the rest of the clients where other factors are actually factors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25385638)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine parlour roast beef

Mexicans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382953)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:28 PM
Author: frisky background story church

THE ONES THAT PAY YOU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382962)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 10:29 PM
Author: Azure Heady Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25390318)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:29 PM
Author: Carmine 180 Ticket Booth Boltzmann

self-financed real estate developers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382966)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:32 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook preventive strike

any company with a competent GC who deals with you but who also is not directly answerable for the legal bills.

Rich people are the worst. No one ever gets rich by paying their workers well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382985)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:54 PM
Author: ivory brunch hominid

"any company with a competent GC who deals with you but who also is not directly answerable for the legal bills."

I can imagine such a creature, but I've never worked with one. Every GC I've dealt with has had responsibility for the case's fees.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383090)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:33 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Swashbuckling Temple

Deep pockets, don't pester you much, consistent steady work, low expectations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25382991)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:40 PM
Author: Maize national

Pestering = easiest billables this side of large-invite conference calls. It's so cute that you kids get miffed about clients calling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383015)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:48 PM
Author: rebellious rehab codepig

Protip: padding is the easiest billables. WHy listen to clients bitch when you can just add another .5 anyway? just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383055)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:49 PM
Author: Maize national

touche'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383064)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 6:35 PM
Author: opaque hateful box office dragon

mfcr. any billable event that has time accountability (i.e., the task can be measured and verified) is disfavored in my book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383285)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 6:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic sienna mad cow disease menage

Yeah, and it's not like you get paid by the hour anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383392)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 6:01 PM
Author: laughsome ebony knife range

like, say, a home insurance company doling out small-time claims work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383117)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:55 PM
Author: chartreuse bearded den

IME, clients who are not risk averse and deal with transactions in which attorneys' fees are a rounding error.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383102)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 5:59 PM
Author: Blathering reading party house

Ardor'd, rageful institutional clients, who sing of war and men at war, the brave law firms reaching the shores of court; sing now Holmes, Jr., J., sing me your song of scorched earth and jurisprudence made, the sacrifice of the young associate, the savior of the circuit, for the company bet'd in litigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25383111)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 12:13 PM
Author: Haunting Angry Theater Coffee Pot

haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386646)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 11:43 PM
Author: Ocher bull headed trailer park

Insured ones. When insurance pays and clients get to generally call the shots, THOSE are the best clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25385139)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 10:40 PM
Author: chartreuse bearded den

No. Fighting with insurance is horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25390396)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 11:15 AM
Author: marvelous goal in life

are former startup tech clients chill and fratty or terrible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386407)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 11:15 AM
Author: Excitant orange native

ones with lots of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386410)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: Garnet Fiercely-loyal Piazza

In my field (family law), professional, educated men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386432)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 11:39 AM
Author: Crimson Cruise Ship

Expound? Are you doing like father's rights stuff? Or divorce stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386479)



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Date: April 15th, 2014 12:17 PM
Author: Cerise dilemma

The best clients for me have the following characteristics:

1. consistently do transactions

2. don't complain about the bill

3. are reasonable in negotiations by sticking to their guns with the important points, but being flexible on the less important points

4. are generally pleasant and realize we're on the same team

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543444&forum_id=2#25386660)