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Solos - have to pay Self Employment tax?

Solo bro here with an llc, no employees, do i have to pay se...
Chestnut set
  04/14/14
jfc. lol at "lawyers."
low-t pozpig
  04/14/14
?
Turquoise slippery internal respiration legend
  04/14/14
wtf bro, i'm not an accountant
Chestnut set
  04/14/14
yes
white misunderstood useless brakes
  04/14/14
fuck that's like an extra 11%
Chestnut set
  04/14/14
-Elect S-corporation status -pay yourself a "reasonabl...
Azure Aromatic Home
  04/14/14
bonus protip: use the corp to buy all of your personal shit ...
Azure Aromatic Home
  04/14/14
cr. bonus bonus protip: give the corp a promissory note f...
low-t pozpig
  04/14/14
no you dont. just hire yourself to the corp. youre not self ...
Useless Potus Den
  04/14/14
Are you self employed?
cruel-hearted halford foreskin
  04/14/14
You want to have your LLC elect to be taxed as an S Corp. T...
talented walnut institution rigpig
  04/14/14
so let's see an example i'm stuck as an s corp, but i'm int...
Swashbuckling Doobsian Base Jew
  04/14/14
Let's say your LLC makes $100,000 profit for the year. You ...
talented walnut institution rigpig
  04/14/14
what are the irs audit flags for this? is 50k going to be co...
Saffron Hospital
  04/14/14
yes
sepia geriatric digit ratio
  04/14/14
How does this affect retirement planning? Doesn't a lower...
purple sex offender
  04/14/14


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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:34 PM
Author: Chestnut set

Solo bro here with an llc, no employees, do i have to pay self employment tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384311)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:36 PM
Author: low-t pozpig

jfc. lol at "lawyers."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384319)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:37 PM
Author: Turquoise slippery internal respiration legend

?

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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:42 PM
Author: Chestnut set

wtf bro, i'm not an accountant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384344)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:50 PM
Author: white misunderstood useless brakes

yes

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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:50 PM
Author: Chestnut set

fuck that's like an extra 11%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384398)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:51 PM
Author: Azure Aromatic Home

-Elect S-corporation status

-pay yourself a "reasonable" salary and pay employment taxes on that (roughly equal to self employment tax + around $300/yr in state and federal unemployment taxes)

-Set the "reasonable" salary to around 40-50% of your net profit

-take the other 50-60% as distributions, which are not subject to any kind of employment taxes (only personal income tax)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384405)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:57 PM
Author: Azure Aromatic Home

bonus protip: use the corp to buy all of your personal shit that could even CONCEIVABLY be used for business purposes. Straight up expense it if it's less than a few hundred dollars or take the section 179 deduction if it's a bigger purchase. this reduces the amount of distributions that you pay personal income tax on and also makes your corporate income less, so you can justify a smaller "reasonable" salary and pay less in employment taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384439)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 10:07 PM
Author: low-t pozpig

cr.

bonus bonus protip: give the corp a promissory note for $1mm, and then have the corp buy all of its shares from you in exchange for $500k of the note (paid $50k a year for 10 years as a tax-free repayment of loan), book the nol, and roll all profits into bitcoin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384522)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:51 PM
Author: Useless Potus Den

no you dont. just hire yourself to the corp. youre not self employed.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384407)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:51 PM
Author: cruel-hearted halford foreskin

Are you self employed?

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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:52 PM
Author: talented walnut institution rigpig

You want to have your LLC elect to be taxed as an S Corp. Then you want to pay yourself a salary, and take your profits above and beyond the salary as a draw. You will pay both sides of the payroll tax on the salary, but none on the draw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384413)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 9:56 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Doobsian Base Jew

so let's see an example

i'm stuck as an s corp, but i'm interested in seeing how this plays out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384433)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 10:32 PM
Author: talented walnut institution rigpig

Let's say your LLC makes $100,000 profit for the year. You pay yourself $50,000 in salary and $50,000 in draw. You will pay both sides of the payroll tax on the $50,000 salary, but none on the draw. You pay federal, state and local income tax on all of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384746)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 10:34 PM
Author: Saffron Hospital

what are the irs audit flags for this? is 50k going to be considered a "reasonable salary" for a solo who bills by the hour and makes gross 100k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384757)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 10:35 PM
Author: sepia geriatric digit ratio

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384765)



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Date: April 14th, 2014 10:42 PM
Author: purple sex offender

How does this affect retirement planning?

Doesn't a lower salary reduce your social security payout?

I've never had any reason to run the numbers to see what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2543627&forum_id=2#25384825)