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Modern America proves Marx's theories about alienation

Everybody in America is depressed as fuck and it's because t...
shards
  07/08/14
Marx also said that eventually capitalism fails because the ...
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  07/08/14
he was right about alienation, wrong about revolution. prol...
sears.todo.para.ti
  07/08/14
Has this been written about in a scholarly way? Marx wrote i...
NUWildKitties
  07/08/14
i'm sure you could measure the scholarship on this issue in ...
sears.todo.para.ti
  07/08/14
(Guy who has only read the manifesto and not any serious Mar...
.,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..
  07/08/14
Exactly. But who reads serious Marx scholarship? Certainly...
sears.todo.para.ti
  07/08/14
They read the Bible which is in essence revolutionary, fag.
.,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..
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I think the world has developed in ways that marx clearly co...
Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels
  07/28/14
How do we stop hardcore capitalism?
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24/7 EMP machine in the stratosphere
brave little poaster
  07/08/14
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brave little poaster
  07/28/14
THIS
Arthur Edward Pepper Jr.
  07/08/14
The scary part is that postmodern capitalism has transcended...
Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent
  07/08/14
That sounds very modern.
.,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..
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I would define "modern" as the optimization of sys...
Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent
  07/08/14
Weird definition
.,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..
  07/08/14
Makes sense to me. It's intelligible, at least. I prefer t...
Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent
  07/08/14
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Also Americans are commodities at work. Their worth is deter...
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redwood dood
  07/28/14
That's not new though, that's just labor as a commodity, whi...
Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels
  07/28/14
can you propose a better way to divide resources? at least ...
''"'''"'''"'
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It's credited to take Marx seriously even if you are not a M...
Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels
  07/28/14
The credited continuation of Marxist alienation theory is He...
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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:02 AM
Author: shards

Everybody in America is depressed as fuck and it's because their ability to develop into full adults has been prevented by hardcore capitalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889342)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:10 AM
Author: ...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,.


Marx also said that eventually capitalism fails because the rich accumulate too much wealth so the rest of ppl overthrow the system and you end up with socialism. It is pretty interesting that we are seeing that in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889362)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:34 AM
Author: sears.todo.para.ti

he was right about alienation, wrong about revolution. proles no longer have an interest in owning the means of production- given a choice between a revolution that leads to no iphones and continuation of the status quo with a promise of incrementally better iphones, we're content to wait for an iphone with a bigger screen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889433)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:36 AM
Author: NUWildKitties

Has this been written about in a scholarly way? Marx wrote in a time when material comforts were limited, at best. We don't have scarcity issues thanks to technology. But we're alienated without the revolution. Seems ripe for analysis.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889445)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:43 AM
Author: sears.todo.para.ti

i'm sure you could measure the scholarship on this issue in yards, if not furlongs, but that's another problem: nobody fucking reads it. marx wrote a short, poetic pamphlet to inspire the very proles he assumed would be operating the guillotines; today we write dry incomprehensible shit for phd committees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889461)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:45 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


(Guy who has only read the manifesto and not any serious Marx scholarship)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889464)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:51 AM
Author: sears.todo.para.ti

Exactly. But who reads serious Marx scholarship? Certainly not the proletariat. If they're consuming anything revolutionary, it's right-wing radio and reddit redpill shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889479)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:52 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


They read the Bible which is in essence revolutionary, fag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889485)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:23 PM
Author: Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels

I think the world has developed in ways that marx clearly could not have predicted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018663)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 2:35 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


How do we stop hardcore capitalism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889442)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:20 AM
Author: brave little poaster

24/7 EMP machine in the stratosphere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889556)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:22 PM
Author: brave little poaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018654)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 5:51 AM
Author: Arthur Edward Pepper Jr.

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889753)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:27 AM
Author: Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent

The scary part is that postmodern capitalism has transcended the commoditization of products and services and has now rapidly commoditized human beings directly (see: Facebook, Tinder, etc.)

Humans used to be defined by the work of their hands and the substance of their spirit. Americans at least used to be defined by the commodities they consumed. You are now defined by the number of "friends" you have and the women in your area who want to fuck you. The commodity is you. The thin veil has been torn asunder, and behind it, we have seen The Beast. His name is Ego.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889569)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


That sounds very modern.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889584)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:40 AM
Author: Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent

I would define "modern" as the optimization of systems and techniques that were largely Industrial, and "postmodern" as the melancholic plateau of economic prosperity creating new systems and processes that antagonize the old ones and generate self-hatred and metaphysical confusion in those who can't make the jump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889608)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:41 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


Weird definition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889609)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 3:43 AM
Author: Penis stampeding into a vagina carnival tent

Makes sense to me. It's intelligible, at least. I prefer to stick to as large-scale, abstract forces/movements as possible, since they're comprehensive and always the simplest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889614)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 5:35 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,....:,,:,...,:::,.;...,:,.,.:,.:.,:.,..


?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889729)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 5:19 AM
Author: ...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,...,,...,.


Also Americans are commodities at work. Their worth is determined by what corporations think they are worth on the job market. Whether they get healthcare, 401k, stable income, job security is all determined based on their value in the job market the same as the value of a pig is determined in a market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889701)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 5:54 AM
Author: .,;,,.;,.,:.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:.;.:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889760)



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Date: July 8th, 2014 7:18 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


Oink oink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#25889839)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:21 PM
Author: redwood dood (luis)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018643)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:25 PM
Author: Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels

That's not new though, that's just labor as a commodity, which is a big part of Marx and also Adam Smith for that matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018674)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:25 PM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


can you propose a better way to divide resources? at least the current system isn't PURELY nepotism and racism and classism. merit has SOME role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018679)



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Date: July 28th, 2014 10:28 PM
Author: Oil Billionaire Warning Infidels

It's credited to take Marx seriously even if you are not a Marxist. Marx had a lot of useful economic and social insights. He wasn't perfectly prescient and couldn't have imagined all the ways modern capitalism would develop, but he understood a lot and was brilliant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#26018697)



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Date: November 13th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: colt tp

The credited continuation of Marxist alienation theory is Herbert Marcuse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#34680727)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: Consigliere to peanuts tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#34684718)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: Consigliere to peanuts tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#34684713)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: colt tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2612997&forum_id=2#34684600)