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which law schools place well into all national markets?

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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
CCN is fine, maybe MV but not P. McGeorge and Irvine place ...
vivacious juggernaut messiness
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Egregious anti-Pepperdine troll. Not only is the campus s...
Lavender incel piazza
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Unholy vengeful azn
  07/20/14
HYS after that it starts getting regional in a hurry
Racy awkward weed whacker idea he suggested
  07/20/14
Not at all the case. I went to an MVP and no one had trouble...
hyperventilating comical scourge upon the earth indian lodge
  07/20/14
Lol at your Sixigan JD
Marvelous startled box office
  07/20/14
(Of course, no one tried, since Detroit is so beautiful)
Lavender incel piazza
  07/20/14
UVA can consistently get you to NYC/DC/South. Not sure if it...
Marvelous startled box office
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
I think UVA L Rev might get you into big firms Seattle offic...
Marvelous startled box office
  07/21/14
UVA places into CA somewhat consistently though I only know ...
galvanic chocolate church building
  07/21/14
Why the FUCK are you thinking about going to law school?
Apoplectic Silver Preventive Strike
  07/20/14
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
oh if you want public sector work you should consider a law ...
judgmental coffee pot
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
There is no public sector outside of DC
Lavender incel piazza
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
You might want to double-check the rankings. There are no hi...
Lavender incel piazza
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
Houston grads MAF
medicated hairless psychic home
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henna know-it-all quadroon
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Unholy vengeful azn
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soul-stirring university
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razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate
  07/20/14
Princeton is very strong in this area
Milky Sexy Field Internal Respiration
  07/20/14
BIGEATINGCLUBLAW
Lavender incel piazza
  07/20/14
if your grades are super high you can. if youre from some ot...
Bearded sickened parlor mad cow disease
  07/20/14
HYSCC are pretty national. Not sure about N.
peach set sandwich
  07/20/14
I would say this is the best argument for Columbia over NYU....
Slippery out-of-control black woman
  07/21/14
I think Michigan grads do OK, but not great
Unholy vengeful azn
  07/20/14
WTF is the shit on this thread? All law schools are regional...
charismatic gaped address
  07/21/14
I am sure she got offers from both those call backs .... And...
Rambunctious appetizing people who are hurt office
  07/21/14
dc is not "brutally tough" on stanford grads and n...
Gold Forum Genital Piercing
  07/21/14
wtf a chicago job out of S is no problem at all
peach set sandwich
  07/21/14
No, my friend did not get an offer from either callback in h...
charismatic gaped address
  07/21/14
Is the advice on here flame? Does HYS not matter for shit? I...
godawful wonderful casino
  07/21/14
HYS place nationally. Dont listen to the low info pumos ITT
peach set sandwich
  07/21/14
what's a pumo?
godawful wonderful casino
  07/21/14
CCN needs contacts, I think. If you show up to the intervie...
Slippery out-of-control black woman
  07/21/14
so sls > columbia?
godawful wonderful casino
  07/21/14
T6 with a little less national prestige for NYU makes sense....
rusted stage
  07/21/14
Harvard Notre Dame
mischievous market
  07/21/14
Any prole can get into HLS ND isn't even T25
godawful wonderful casino
  07/21/14
Have u seen the major motion picture Rudy?
mischievous market
  07/21/14
hasn't everyone? http://www.cracked.com/article_16478_7-...
godawful wonderful casino
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Hiring partners love Rudy. That's why Notre Dame is so stron...
mischievous market
  07/21/14
Schools become regional quickly. However, that's largely if ...
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Date: July 20th, 2014 2:51 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 2:52 PM
Author: vivacious juggernaut messiness

CCN is fine, maybe MV but not P. McGeorge and Irvine place well too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25969467)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Lavender incel piazza

Egregious anti-Pepperdine troll.

Not only is the campus situated in HEAVEN, but it has worldwide reach.

Michigan doesn't really place that well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970295)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:34 PM
Author: Unholy vengeful azn



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Date: July 20th, 2014 2:53 PM
Author: Racy awkward weed whacker idea he suggested

HYS after that it starts getting regional in a hurry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25969474)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:12 PM
Author: hyperventilating comical scourge upon the earth indian lodge

Not at all the case. I went to an MVP and no one had trouble getting to the west coast if they wanted it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970103)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:03 PM
Author: Marvelous startled box office

Lol at your Sixigan JD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970320)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:06 PM
Author: Lavender incel piazza

(Of course, no one tried, since Detroit is so beautiful)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970329)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:42 PM
Author: Marvelous startled box office

UVA can consistently get you to NYC/DC/South. Not sure if it can get you to CA consistently though I've seen it happen. Don't know if UVA can get you into Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970237)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:45 PM
Author: Marvelous startled box office



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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 21st, 2014 7:28 PM
Author: Marvelous startled box office

I think UVA L Rev might get you into big firms Seattle offices. You'd be wise to nurture connections to the area, or in all likelihood, go to a more regional feeder preferably on scholarship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25977116)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 9:50 AM
Author: galvanic chocolate church building

UVA places into CA somewhat consistently though I only know from anecdata.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973592)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:44 PM
Author: Apoplectic Silver Preventive Strike

Why the FUCK are you thinking about going to law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970242)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:56 PM
Author: judgmental coffee pot

oh if you want public sector work you should consider a law center instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970282)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:02 PM
Author: Lavender incel piazza

There is no public sector outside of DC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970316)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:06 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:07 PM
Author: Lavender incel piazza

You might want to double-check the rankings. There are no higher-ranked law centers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970333)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:08 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:08 PM
Author: medicated hairless psychic home

Houston grads MAF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970340)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:31 PM
Author: henna know-it-all quadroon



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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:35 PM
Author: Unholy vengeful azn



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:55 PM
Author: soul-stirring university



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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:41 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle very tactful degenerate



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:00 PM
Author: Milky Sexy Field Internal Respiration

Princeton is very strong in this area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970305)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:01 PM
Author: Lavender incel piazza

BIGEATINGCLUBLAW

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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:25 PM
Author: Bearded sickened parlor mad cow disease

if your grades are super high you can. if youre from some other area you can go back there. otherwise, no. youre limited to dc and ny and chi from all of those schools without stellar grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971725)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:28 PM
Author: peach set sandwich

HYSCC are pretty national. Not sure about N.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971746)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:11 AM
Author: Slippery out-of-control black woman

I would say this is the best argument for Columbia over NYU. Without a real contacts story you're not going to do well in e.g. Texas or California unless you have grades to spare. Not sure how this shakes out post-ITE; I have a sense that even Columbia and Chicago are more like this now and NYU is less and less relevant outside of NYC with the drastically smaller summer class sizes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973231)



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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:36 PM
Author: Unholy vengeful azn

I think Michigan grads do OK, but not great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971795)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:42 AM
Author: charismatic gaped address

WTF is the shit on this thread? All law schools are regional to a degree other than maybe Y. Getting a Chicago job out of S is almost impossible and DC is brutally tough. Even NYC isn't easy if your grades are mediocre. Can you find a job in California if you are coming out of CCN/lower T14's/whatever? Sure, if your grades are high enough. Should you count on it? No. No law school (with the possibly exception of Y) can guarantee you a job in any major market.

And don't even get started on secondary markets. Ties matter much more than pedigree for those markets, and a HYS degree can actually work against you. I had a friend who attended HYS and had owned a home a secondary market for 10 years before she went to law school (and continued to own it while she was in law school). She mass mailed every major firm in the city. It resulted in two callbacks, both of which grilled her about ties for the entire interview. "Why would a HYS graduate want to work here? Normally we only hire from the local schools. We want associates who have lived here their whole lives and have all their family here." Apparently owning a home for 10 years in the market wasn't a strong enough tie.

TLDR: No law schools are truly national. If you want to have the flexibility to work in any part of the country, don't go to law school. (Actually, that's good advice generally, but it's particularly important if you don't want to be restricted to a certain geographic area.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973005)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:46 AM
Author: Rambunctious appetizing people who are hurt office

I am sure she got offers from both those call backs .... And probably decided to work somewhere else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973024)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:32 AM
Author: Gold Forum Genital Piercing

dc is not "brutally tough" on stanford grads and nyc is a walk in central park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973168)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: peach set sandwich

wtf a chicago job out of S is no problem at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973171)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:49 PM
Author: charismatic gaped address

No, my friend did not get an offer from either callback in her home market. The firms really seem to only want people who lived in the state their whole lives and attended the local T1. And getting a NYC job out of S is not easy if you are below median. Sure, it's a piece of cake if your grades are decent, but the top-ranked NYC firms (who tend to have the larger class sizes) generally won't callback anyone who isn't at least median. If you're below median and you want NYC, you're stuck bidding on lower-ranked firms with small class sizes and the process becomes a crap shoot. I've known people below median who got no callbacks in NYC. And if you're potentially fucked in NYC if you're below median, DC is significantly worse.

And for whatever reason almost no Chicago firms do OCI at Stanford, and the ones that do usually send people from their other offices. There is a bro who poasts the number of Chicago associates from each top-ranked law school every year. I can try to find the thread, but my recollection is that there were something like 5 SLS associates in all of the major Chicago firms last year. (Not 5 first-year associates, but 5 associates period.) Maybe that's self-selection because nobody wants to move to Chicago after living in Palo Alto for three years; I have no idea. But the point remains that SLS places essentially no one in Chicago most years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25976556)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:35 AM
Author: godawful wonderful casino

Is the advice on here flame? Does HYS not matter for shit? I thought firms want grads from these schools. What's the point of going to a highly ranked or HYS other than pass/fail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973172)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:36 AM
Author: peach set sandwich

HYS place nationally. Dont listen to the low info pumos ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973173)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:51 AM
Author: godawful wonderful casino

what's a pumo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973205)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:15 AM
Author: Slippery out-of-control black woman

CCN needs contacts, I think. If you show up to the interview and run some bullshit about an aunt who lives in San Diego LA firms will hold it against you. From CCN you should make up shit about family living in the city where you want to go. With that, though, it helps, or at least it used to back in the day. E.g. BigTexlaw gave a solid bonus to CCN over non-L.Rev. UT. Same for Biglaw in LA, less so in SF, but mainly bc there are way fewer jobs and S + Boalt right in town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973237)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:47 AM
Author: godawful wonderful casino

so sls > columbia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973252)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:18 AM
Author: rusted stage

T6 with a little less national prestige for NYU makes sense.

OP wants "public sector" work so it's a no brainer for GULC if you can't get into HYS and maybe Columbia.

That's it. The point about local ties is dead on. Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta, big legal markets are still provincial as fuck about ties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973287)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:18 AM
Author: mischievous market

Harvard

Notre Dame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973461)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:24 AM
Author: godawful wonderful casino

Any prole can get into HLS

ND isn't even T25



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973463)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:28 AM
Author: mischievous market

Have u seen the major motion picture Rudy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973467)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:32 AM
Author: godawful wonderful casino

hasn't everyone?

http://www.cracked.com/article_16478_7-movies-based-true-story-that-are-complete-bullshit.html

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/09/joe-montana-creates-a-controversy-by-debunking-rudy/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973471)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:55 AM
Author: mischievous market

Hiring partners love Rudy. That's why Notre Dame is so strong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973491)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 9:38 AM
Author: Aggressive coiffed whorehouse mad-dog skullcap

Schools become regional quickly. However, that's largely if you're looking to have the school name do all the work for you.

You graduate from any of the Top 50 schools at the top of your class and get a decent clerkship and you can travel well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973562)



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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:54 PM
Author: godawful wonderful casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25976057)