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Date: July 20th, 2014 2:51 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25969459) |
Date: July 20th, 2014 2:52 PM Author: Wonderful Anal Location Associate CCN is fine, maybe MV but not P. McGeorge and Irvine place well too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25969467) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:58 PM Author: sienna french party of the first part striped hyena Egregious anti-Pepperdine troll.
Not only is the campus situated in HEAVEN, but it has worldwide reach.
Michigan doesn't really place that well. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:34 PM Author: Cobalt trip range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971786) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 2:53 PM Author: Confused Olive Sex Offender HYS after that it starts getting regional in a hurry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25969474) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:12 PM Author: supple nowag Not at all the case. I went to an MVP and no one had trouble getting to the west coast if they wanted it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970103) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:03 PM Author: Snowy Floppy Base Rigpig Lol at your Sixigan JD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970320) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:06 PM Author: sienna french party of the first part striped hyena (Of course, no one tried, since Detroit is so beautiful) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970329) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:42 PM Author: Snowy Floppy Base Rigpig UVA can consistently get you to NYC/DC/South. Not sure if it can get you to CA consistently though I've seen it happen. Don't know if UVA can get you into Chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970237) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:45 PM Author: Snowy Floppy Base Rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971098) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:47 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971108) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 7:28 PM Author: Snowy Floppy Base Rigpig I think UVA L Rev might get you into big firms Seattle offices. You'd be wise to nurture connections to the area, or in all likelihood, go to a more regional feeder preferably on scholarship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25977116) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 9:50 AM Author: Opaque dashing haunted graveyard dilemma UVA places into CA somewhat consistently though I only know from anecdata. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973592) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:44 PM Author: diverse institution Why the FUCK are you thinking about going to law school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970242) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:55 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970278) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 5:56 PM Author: Tan hell chad oh if you want public sector work you should consider a law center instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970282) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:01 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970313) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:02 PM Author: sienna french party of the first part striped hyena There is no public sector outside of DC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970316) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:06 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970330) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:07 PM Author: sienna french party of the first part striped hyena You might want to double-check the rankings. There are no higher-ranked law centers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970333) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:08 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970338) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:08 PM Author: Umber Lodge Houston grads MAF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970340) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:31 PM Author: sickened dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971765) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:35 PM Author: Cobalt trip range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971788) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:55 PM Author: marvelous property telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25976073) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:41 PM Author: curious senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971062) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:00 PM Author: Aquamarine racy indian lodge Princeton is very strong in this area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970305) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 6:01 PM Author: sienna french party of the first part striped hyena BIGEATINGCLUBLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25970311) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:25 PM Author: Appetizing toaster if your grades are super high you can. if youre from some other area you can go back there. otherwise, no. youre limited to dc and ny and chi from all of those schools without stellar grades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971725) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:28 PM Author: Violet Lay Fanboi HYSCC are pretty national. Not sure about N. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971746) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:11 AM Author: Buck-toothed liquid oxygen I would say this is the best argument for Columbia over NYU. Without a real contacts story you're not going to do well in e.g. Texas or California unless you have grades to spare. Not sure how this shakes out post-ITE; I have a sense that even Columbia and Chicago are more like this now and NYU is less and less relevant outside of NYC with the drastically smaller summer class sizes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973231) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:36 PM Author: Cobalt trip range I think Michigan grads do OK, but not great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25971795) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:42 AM Author: slap-happy irate trust fund WTF is the shit on this thread? All law schools are regional to a degree other than maybe Y. Getting a Chicago job out of S is almost impossible and DC is brutally tough. Even NYC isn't easy if your grades are mediocre. Can you find a job in California if you are coming out of CCN/lower T14's/whatever? Sure, if your grades are high enough. Should you count on it? No. No law school (with the possibly exception of Y) can guarantee you a job in any major market.
And don't even get started on secondary markets. Ties matter much more than pedigree for those markets, and a HYS degree can actually work against you. I had a friend who attended HYS and had owned a home a secondary market for 10 years before she went to law school (and continued to own it while she was in law school). She mass mailed every major firm in the city. It resulted in two callbacks, both of which grilled her about ties for the entire interview. "Why would a HYS graduate want to work here? Normally we only hire from the local schools. We want associates who have lived here their whole lives and have all their family here." Apparently owning a home for 10 years in the market wasn't a strong enough tie.
TLDR: No law schools are truly national. If you want to have the flexibility to work in any part of the country, don't go to law school. (Actually, that's good advice generally, but it's particularly important if you don't want to be restricted to a certain geographic area.) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:46 AM Author: elite filthpig orchestra pit I am sure she got offers from both those call backs .... And probably decided to work somewhere else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973024) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:32 AM Author: haunting half-breed international law enforcement agency dc is not "brutally tough" on stanford grads and nyc is a walk in central park. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973168) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:34 AM Author: Violet Lay Fanboi wtf a chicago job out of S is no problem at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973171) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:49 PM Author: slap-happy irate trust fund No, my friend did not get an offer from either callback in her home market. The firms really seem to only want people who lived in the state their whole lives and attended the local T1. And getting a NYC job out of S is not easy if you are below median. Sure, it's a piece of cake if your grades are decent, but the top-ranked NYC firms (who tend to have the larger class sizes) generally won't callback anyone who isn't at least median. If you're below median and you want NYC, you're stuck bidding on lower-ranked firms with small class sizes and the process becomes a crap shoot. I've known people below median who got no callbacks in NYC. And if you're potentially fucked in NYC if you're below median, DC is significantly worse.
And for whatever reason almost no Chicago firms do OCI at Stanford, and the ones that do usually send people from their other offices. There is a bro who poasts the number of Chicago associates from each top-ranked law school every year. I can try to find the thread, but my recollection is that there were something like 5 SLS associates in all of the major Chicago firms last year. (Not 5 first-year associates, but 5 associates period.) Maybe that's self-selection because nobody wants to move to Chicago after living in Palo Alto for three years; I have no idea. But the point remains that SLS places essentially no one in Chicago most years. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:35 AM Author: Spectacular amber university Is the advice on here flame? Does HYS not matter for shit? I thought firms want grads from these schools. What's the point of going to a highly ranked or HYS other than pass/fail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973172) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:36 AM Author: Violet Lay Fanboi HYS place nationally. Dont listen to the low info pumos ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973173) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:51 AM Author: Spectacular amber university what's a pumo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973205) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:15 AM Author: Buck-toothed liquid oxygen CCN needs contacts, I think. If you show up to the interview and run some bullshit about an aunt who lives in San Diego LA firms will hold it against you. From CCN you should make up shit about family living in the city where you want to go. With that, though, it helps, or at least it used to back in the day. E.g. BigTexlaw gave a solid bonus to CCN over non-L.Rev. UT. Same for Biglaw in LA, less so in SF, but mainly bc there are way fewer jobs and S + Boalt right in town. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973237) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:47 AM Author: Spectacular amber university so sls > columbia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973252) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:18 AM Author: Hot Knife Theatre T6 with a little less national prestige for NYU makes sense.
OP wants "public sector" work so it's a no brainer for GULC if you can't get into HYS and maybe Columbia.
That's it. The point about local ties is dead on. Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta, big legal markets are still provincial as fuck about ties. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:18 AM Author: Heady Meetinghouse Clown Harvard Notre Dame |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:24 AM Author: Spectacular amber university Any prole can get into HLS
ND isn't even T25
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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:28 AM Author: Heady Meetinghouse Clown Have u seen the major motion picture Rudy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973467) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:32 AM Author: Spectacular amber university hasn't everyone?
http://www.cracked.com/article_16478_7-movies-based-true-story-that-are-complete-bullshit.html
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/09/joe-montana-creates-a-controversy-by-debunking-rudy/
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Date: July 21st, 2014 8:55 AM Author: Heady Meetinghouse Clown Hiring partners love Rudy. That's why Notre Dame is so strong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25973491) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 9:38 AM Author: Khaki Parlour Schools become regional quickly. However, that's largely if you're looking to have the school name do all the work for you.
You graduate from any of the Top 50 schools at the top of your class and get a decent clerkship and you can travel well. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:54 PM Author: Spectacular amber university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623737&forum_id=2#25976057) |