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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:52 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid Ok- not quite. But holy shit. She's 1.5 and comes from a pretty brutal family. Either her birthmom or her birthfather killed her older sister at age 3. not enough for either to be criminally convicted- too much he said she said, but the minute our daughter was born, they took her from the fam. and we've had her basically since birth.
today mini schnauzer puppy like "attacked" our daughter with joy. i mean, was totally wild and puppy teeth and in her face and she got terrified. okay, that's normal.
what's not normal? her response was to scream and kick and hit the shit out of it. not cry or run away or cover her face. to beat the fucking puppy down.
(of course no real damage. we separated both soon and then she started bawling.)
but jesus fucking christ, we might be in trouble. also, she's 17 months old. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:55 PM Author: idiotic trailer park stock car race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971175) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:43 AM Author: talking useless brakes foreskin Why would you adopt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972767) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:14 AM Author: heady lilac cuckoldry people who are hurt If this kid was 100% white you wouldn't bat an eye. You also wouldn't bat an eye if she did this in response to an animatronic toy dog that scared her. In the last two years I've probably seen two dozen <18 month olds react with violence when scared by an animal, toy or child (granted some may have been <12 months and not really mobile, but still). You and your wife should chill the fuck out, but that's true of roughly 99% of educated first-time parents of kids who can't speak in complete sentences yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972858) |
Date: July 20th, 2014 8:54 PM Author: peach coiffed factory reset button Have you read the Chuck Palahniuk book, Pygmy?
It's relevant to your interests. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:56 PM Author: glittery psychic What race is the child (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971178) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:57 PM Author: glittery psychic I literally cannot imagine a 1.5 month old child raised by a "normal" family responding in that manner. Your child is an ape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971190) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:01 PM Author: Greedy Skinny Woman Um, that is completely normal for a 1.5 year old child. Normal 1.5 year old children do a lot worse than that. Kids like to kill ants by the thousands, have screaming fits because they don't get the toy they like and attack other children over toys. This happens ALL THE TIME with perfectly normal children. Anyone who knows shit about kids would know this. OP's reaction is the most creepy thing about this incident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971216) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:03 PM Author: glittery psychic You sound like a defensive nig. Sorry your kind is genetically disposed to violence. Also, killing ants and screaming fits are normal 1.5 yr old behavior - trying to attack a dog is not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971234) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:06 PM Author: provocative twisted site Look, this is why you don't want some little yappy dog with a kid. If it was a big pit bull it would have properly corrected the child. Dats why black families have pit bulls, knowwhatimsayin? Dat chile didn't do nuffin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971248) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:10 PM Author: Greedy Skinny Woman There are no black people on xo, duh. No kids but I do have a much younger sister whom I spent a lot of time babysitting. Normal little children are on average perfectly horrible little psychopaths. Seriously, that's normal, they don't even develop a sense of empathy until much, much later. Little children are NOT nice. You have to teach them to be nice. And don't be surprised when it takes some work and effort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971263) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:14 PM Author: glittery psychic Ok fine I am all for hoping this child grows up well adjusted, let's leave it at that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971297) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:57 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid she's mixed. half black/half white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971193) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:58 PM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch please tell me this is flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971195) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:58 PM Author: glittery psychic Ur fuct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971198) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:02 PM Author: provocative twisted site LMAO. Silly shitlib. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971224) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:11 PM Author: Bearded den what kind of warranty did you get on that thing? maybe you can return it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971268) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:43 AM Author: talking useless brakes foreskin Just drop it off at one of those fire stations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972769) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:58 PM Author: Crusty Home Welcome to the world of Reactive Attachment Syndrome.
And by the way, consider yourself lucky if she is even on speaking terms with you guys as an adult. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:01 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid nah- she has a health attachment. textbook even.
but this did come from somewhere deep. wasn't something she thought about. she just boom. reacted. and that was what was pretty unnerving. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:03 PM Author: Crusty Home I see. I do hope this works but when you adopt them from a bad home it is such a huge gamble about how the attachment will ultimately turn out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971228) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:04 PM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch This almost sounds like not flame.
Why did you adopt? |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:09 PM Author: peach coiffed factory reset button Lol, long story short I had an adopted brother. In his teen years my parents actually had to sue to get his complete file. He had a clean bill of health too if you ignored the calamitous parade of horribles that had been visited upon him and which was actively hidden by the state.
Just lol at diagnosing any kid at one year old. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 8:59 PM Author: Greedy Skinny Woman How are you scared of a 1.5 year old kid? What's wrong with you? It's your kid. Raise them right and it will be fine.
There's nothing that weird about her getting scared of a dog you just explain what happened (even though you think they cannot understand you just explain it anyway, sooner or later they will begin to understand and those memories will be there on some level). And don't be all "omg you attacked the puppy". Explain that the puppy loves her and it's ok that she misunderstood but remember the puppy loves you. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:03 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid you think we're assholes? of course we didn't say anything to her. just comforted her and locked wtf eyes over her head and talked about it later.
she's our daughter. we love her. and the thread title was to get people to click. but it is a highly violent, uncommon reaction and makes us wonder about what comes next. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:05 PM Author: Greedy Skinny Woman That's horrible. She's your daughter, you don't hide your reaction and then go talk behind her back that you're scared of her. Jesus, don't you know kids sense that? You're supposed to tell her that's a bad reaction and she should stop it and the dog loves her.
Goddamn fucking passive aggressive bullshit. When that kid grows up all fucked up, it really WILL be all your fault. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:08 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid you think you scold a child who was out of her mind terrorized?
that dog scared the shit out of her and she's 17 months old. the only thing to do is to comfort her. not to tell her what she did was wrong. "puppies love you sweetheart. we know you're crying too inconsolably to hear it. but they love you. don't hit the puppy. that's mean!"
and even if she were old enough and calm enough to understand, like i'm going to scold a child for something it's clear she had 0 control over. if she'd pissed herself in fear, should i have told her "honey, we don't do that. remember next time not to be afraid." this was her version of pissing herself in fear. it just wasn't a common one. so yes. we exchanged glances.
now i have no fucking respect for anything you say. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: Greedy Skinny Woman Yeah if your kid runs out in front of a car you should probably just comfort her too. If she did something wrong you correct her. Otherwise she will not know it was wrong. Yes, you can comfort and correct at the same time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971289) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:18 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid you're gonna be parent of the year.
there's a difference between intentionally or thoughtlessly running out in front of a car.
and running out in front of a car because the 2 year old version of freddy kruger is chasing you.
you're a fucking asshole (and ineffectual) if you try correcting the second. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:08 AM Author: heady lilac cuckoldry people who are hurt LOL, OK teenaged college student. Make sure to scream at the baby when it's six months old and it spits up those whirled peas, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972834) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:49 PM Author: Overrated Bbw Whorehouse "Raise them right and it will be fine."
nope. absolutely false empirically.
jfc libtards are mentally ill anti-science religious nuts. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 6:06 PM Author: Overrated Bbw Whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25976677) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:02 PM Author: khaki national dude, if u got them before 2 and they end up being a fuck up, it is 100% YOUR FAULT....just remember that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971226) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:05 PM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch Have you and the op learned nothing from xo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971242) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:12 PM Author: khaki national very little (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971274) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:06 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid that's not true. anyone can break a kid before 2. it's amazing how many ways you can destroy your child. fetal alcohol syndrome. shaken baby. failure to thrive.
that said? this would totally be us. we got a healthy, lovely infant girl, days old with no issues other than positive for marijuana (no, i'm not saying this is an issue).
we are stable, loving people though. and considering no tv, no spanking, no dv... i think it's possible she wasn't even exposed to violence before this. (though of course don't know for sure.) makes me reconsider the whole nature/nurture thing. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:39 PM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch I tried to warn you. I've posted about HBD and adoptions a lot here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971814) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:04 PM Author: provocative twisted site I've really put some thought into this. After weighing the pros and cons and thinking about the attack from the dog and the retort from the kid I have come to a sad realization.
You have no choice. You have to put the kid to sleep. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:46 AM Author: talking useless brakes foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972773) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:09 PM Author: Sticky frum temple You seem like a bad parent. Get rid of the dog. I don't get this business of having dogs around such little kids. When the kid is older (like 7 or 8) and demands a dog, then get her one then.
I would consider you an irresponsible parent. The ironic thing is that some government agency thought you good enough to adopt. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:11 PM Author: provocative twisted site Nice flame. Out of those two the dog is likely the much better personality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971266) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:11 PM Author: Sticky frum temple (normal white person) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971271) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: provocative twisted site Pretty much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971282) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:15 PM Author: Sticky frum temple Therefore, don't breed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971298) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:15 PM Author: provocative twisted site ?
Not sure what your issue is but we breed the best fucking kids alive. The rest of you are basically living in the world we created. To the extent that we no longer have interest in breeding, it is because the other assholes around fuck up this gay earth. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:11 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid not our dog. we were visiting a family member. obviously stopping the 16 month old ball of fur and teeth would have been a smart thing to do.
we missed it. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: arousing green dilemma Run this one on UrbanBaby, you'll get 500 responses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971280) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: Yapping Goyim Yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971283) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: Bearded den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971286) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:17 PM Author: glittery psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971313) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:20 PM Author: Orchid Hairy Legs Hominid i don't know the site. helpful? racist? ridiculous advice?
look, i didnt' come here expecting a solution or commiseration or anything like that. we're not freaked, despite the thread title.
but i do think it's a legitimate wtf moment. and i wanted to wtf with my peeps. |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:29 PM Author: fluffy black woman mother brilliant idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971748) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:59 AM Author: bronze hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25973089) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:13 PM Author: shaky thriller principal's office giraffe if not flame, your "child" is an impregnable wild animal. it's a basic genetic condition. she's probably addicted to crack too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971287) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:15 PM Author: Bearded den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971301) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 9:15 PM Author: provocative twisted site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971303) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:24 PM Author: Saffron old irish cottage This is the flame we have to work with? Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971720) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:55 AM Author: heady lilac cuckoldry people who are hurt WTF? This is 1fucking80 race realist trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972792) |
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Date: July 20th, 2014 10:29 PM Author: Swashbuckling ratface If not flame, try to shrug it off, pretend it didn't happen, and keep reprogramming her like you have. Will probably be fine shortly. You have the right approach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25971754) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:34 AM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972750) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 1:58 AM Author: racy ticket booth water buffalo The heritability of IQ and predilection to violence are high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972799) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 2:02 AM Author: heady lilac cuckoldry people who are hurt We have friends who adopted--fucking can't type this without stopping to laugh for like two mintues--a Juggalo spawn. The kid is the best anecdata for nature/nurture you could ever see. Clearly not a supergenius, but a committed set of parents with high IQs and he went from weird and clearly somewhat off toddler (late milestones, they worried about spectrum issues for a while there) to super awesome, bright, inquisitive four year old. It genuinely brightens my day every time I hang out with them and think about how that kid's life would've been if he'd stayed with his biological parents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25972813) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:13 AM Author: talking useless brakes foreskin My vague recollection of the twins studies is that parenting has almost no effect on how the child ends up as an adult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25973134) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:26 AM Author: Yapping Goyim Yarmulke I think you're talking about adoption studies, and that's pretty much true. I mean, parenting does affect outcomes, but if you're looking specifically at IQ, the effect is small, and if you're looking specifically at correlations with the IQs of the adoptive parents rather than other aspects of their parenting, the effect is smaller still. there's a big adoptive effect on IQ in childhood, but it diminishes over time.
I think the juggalo-spawn kid will probably turn out pretty well as an adult (especially in more malleable traits), but if he ends up with a high IQ you can conclude that his birth parents had better genes than you might have assumed. makes me think of this post a guy here made a few weeks ago that stuck with me:
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2607618&forum_id=2#25849989
and for what it's worth, twin studies often show a bigger environmental effect on IQ than adoption studies do. identical twins reared apart show a significantly lower correlation in IQ than identical twins reared together, which implicates an environmental effect. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:49 AM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch To be fair, the average juggalo is probably not far off from the average white, and some juggalos are above average.
Meanwhile, the op is talking about a half-black kid with a murderous parent. |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 4:18 AM Author: heady lilac cuckoldry people who are hurt Pretty sure the juggalo biodad had bodies on him. He definitely had a long sheet of violent crimes. And the mom was Mexican. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25973240) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:47 AM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch Sounds like the kid you know may not be that different from the op then.
To be fair, differences (interracial and intraracial) aren't as noticeable in young children.
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/black-people-according-to-the-1911-britannica/
intelligence: “the mental inferiority of the negro to the white or yellow races is a fact”. Black children were “sharp, intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness yielding to indolence.”
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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:08 AM Author: trip stain address I kinda know the feeling. My son is two, almost three, and I hope he's just going through a phase with flipping the fuck out right now, but he gets really violent when he's angry to the point where I found myself wondering recently "at what point do you know you're raising a bad seed?" Like, is this the start of something that ends with me on tv saying "he didn't do nuffin!"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25973272) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 5:59 AM Author: bull headed honey-headed fanboi (Dexter Morgan's dad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25973315) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 3:38 PM Author: pink startled sneaky criminal crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25975527) |
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Date: July 21st, 2014 6:27 PM Author: floppy property pervert in this thread you have a lib mad that his daughter didn't just sit there and let puppydood kill her. Id be proud of my daughter, it would let me know she had some backbone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2623969&forum_id=2#25976792) |