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Does this federal judge give an accurate account of BIGLAW?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BufcBAlyU04&list=UUCl1y2i...
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  08/16/14
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  08/17/14
"they make 600,000, 700,000 dollars" wut
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cr. wtf??
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partners.
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He definitely poasts.
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cr. see 3:40.
Turquoise Feces
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Hundreds of lawyers billing 2300, 2400, 2500 hours .... I...
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  08/16/14
3000? really?
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  08/16/14
50% padding.
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100% no life.
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  08/16/14
why did you get partnership-pwn3d if u bill that much
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If I see 3000, I see poor management by the firm. It's not ...
metal ticket booth
  08/16/14
Nobody is billing 2500. Nobody is billing 2300 except in an ...
talented brethren
  08/16/14
Your shitlaw perspectives are not relevant to this topic.
Comical Hateful Pit
  08/16/14
1800 you can stick around for three years or so if you do go...
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Dude, this is totally wrong. If you are a 4th or 5th year at...
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
This is consistent with my experience these last few years
mahogany very tactful state knife
  08/16/14
The average person at a biglaw firm bills something like 170...
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
Fucking bullshit. No associate is billing 1700 hours in BIGL...
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
first years routinely bill like 1200
Yellow doobsian dilemma
  08/16/14
LOL. You are fucking insane.
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
??? were u midlaw?
Yellow doobsian dilemma
  08/16/14
you're literally stupid, rudolph
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Idiotic Associate
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I pointed out the number is skewed, but it is the number.
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
If that is the number it is only the number because they are...
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
Just associates, not partners. And another metric, our b...
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
Bro, your firm is TTT. Sorry. No legit BIGLAW firm has Assoc...
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
The finance guy said we were trailing our peers but not by m...
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
Rudolph never not being (Rudolph) my v10 firm gives us a...
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Real estate has been going off like gangbusters the last yea...
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(DPW associate)
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I have billed 2900 in a year. We had two cases go to jury tr...
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  08/20/14
Many people are billing 2500
black concupiscible patrolman
  08/22/14
This guy is a bit of a douche. "They look at what the s...
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
So, what you are saying then is the firm work is fungible?
contagious cuckoldry
  08/16/14
It's pretty fungible, especially at the lower levels. You're...
provocative umber senate
  08/16/14
Work isn't invariably shit, but there's not a hell of a lot ...
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cr. he goes full shitboomer at the end.
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titcr. just do don't worry about starting salary but go to l...
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  08/21/14
Hours seem off. My firm gave averages in past years, and the...
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Half the problem is the meaningless deadlines set by the cou...
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Lol just meet your filing deadline faggot
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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:00 PM
Author: Vivacious orchid field dragon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BufcBAlyU04&list=UUCl1y2iHTY34Zlmgw89l_yQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140446)



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Date: August 17th, 2014 8:34 AM
Author: claret casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26145759)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:09 AM
Author: Boyish school cafeteria

"they make 600,000, 700,000 dollars"

wut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354727)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:11 AM
Author: Turquoise Feces

cr. wtf??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354729)



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Date: May 6th, 2015 11:14 PM
Author: exciting mewling incel

partners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27837857)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:16 PM
Author: pungent black woman stain

He definitely poasts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140497)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:23 PM
Author: soul-stirring shimmering turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140510)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:14 AM
Author: Turquoise Feces

cr. see 3:40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354737)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling coiffed principal's office pisswyrm

Hundreds of lawyers billing 2300, 2400, 2500 hours ....

It nearly killed me the year I billed 2000. Now that is a floor, what once was seen as mental illness is now a floor.

LOL

Try 3000 boomer scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140512)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:28 PM
Author: Vivacious orchid field dragon

3000? really?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140524)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:58 PM
Author: pungent black woman stain

50% padding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140594)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:02 PM
Author: mind-boggling coiffed principal's office pisswyrm

100% no life.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140604)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:15 PM
Author: bull headed yarmulke mad-dog skullcap

why did you get partnership-pwn3d if u bill that much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140659)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling coiffed principal's office pisswyrm

Punted not pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140920)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 12:11 AM
Author: appetizing wine cuck

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27169021)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: metal ticket booth

If I see 3000, I see poor management by the firm. It's not worth the negative collateral risks, especially if the attorney is actually valuable to the practice, but even if they're just churning and burning some junior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140935)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:08 PM
Author: talented brethren

Nobody is billing 2500. Nobody is billing 2300 except in an outlier year or two and if you are you aint going to still be practicing in 5 years -- that's for sure. If you are over 2000 you are good. Plenty of firms if you are over 1800-1850 you are golden.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140626)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:54 PM
Author: Comical Hateful Pit

Your shitlaw perspectives are not relevant to this topic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140891)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: transparent erotic genital piercing new version

1800 you can stick around for three years or so if you do good work and people like you which is all most people want. But people won't take your long term success at the firm seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140949)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:10 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

Dude, this is totally wrong. If you are a 4th or 5th year at a good/great firm in Philly (not NYC which is much worse), 2000 is the absolute minimu not to get fired (with no hours bonus) and most good associates are north of 2200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140958)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:12 PM
Author: mahogany very tactful state knife

This is consistent with my experience these last few years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140969)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:12 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

The average person at a biglaw firm bills something like 1700 hours. But consider this is skewed by the great number of people coming/going.

That said, there are a ton of lawyers who bill 2200+ hours, which is a shitton. What I haven't been able to figure out is how much of this is their choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140971)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

Fucking bullshit. No associate is billing 1700 hours in BIGLAW. That is a fucking joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140976)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: Yellow doobsian dilemma

first years routinely bill like 1200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140979)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:15 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

LOL. You are fucking insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140986)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:23 PM
Author: Yellow doobsian dilemma

??? were u midlaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141046)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 6:36 AM
Author: henna irate range

you're literally stupid, rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354806)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:19 PM
Author: transparent erotic genital piercing new version

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141019)



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Date: January 23rd, 2015 12:02 AM
Author: Idiotic Associate

Poor j shad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27168958)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:16 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

I pointed out the number is skewed, but it is the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140992)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:17 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

If that is the number it is only the number because they are counting in maternity leave and old as fuck cruiser partners as if they are actual attorneys. If the number is anything other than associates' hours for the entire year, it is a meaningless number. No associates bill 1700 in BIGLAW brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141010)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:20 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

Just associates, not partners.

And another metric, our bonus is something like 1900-2000 hours. Roughly 1/3 of associates make that. Again, part of that is because people are coming and going, but just trying to point out facts as opposed to the bullshit you are spouting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141025)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:23 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

Bro, your firm is TTT. Sorry. No legit BIGLAW firm has Associates averaging 1700. saytpf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141042)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:26 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

The finance guy said we were trailing our peers but not by much.

But yeah, it sounds like you're the problem with big law. When you hear that a firm's associates are averaging around 50 hours a week in the office, you scoff and dismiss it as a shitty firm.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Go live your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141061)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:26 PM
Author: mahogany very tactful state knife

Rudolph never not being (Rudolph)

my v10 firm gives us average associate hours every year, and it is fucking low as shit (well south of 1800, so south that the managing partner admonished us all a few years ago that we need to consider 1600 hours a year as the MINIMUM), and so low that it can't just be maternity leave and turnover. That's not saying everyone is billing south of 1600 hours, but enough are to drive all the 2200-3000 hour associates averages way down. Much of that is slow practice groups over the past few years (I'm looking at you real estate), but also much of it is people doing just enough to not get fired, and at 2000 hours a year (at my firm in my group at least) you are comfortably in the not-being fired range (note, 2000 hours still means you need to be available at night/weekends when shit comes up). In fact, whenever I start billing 70-80 hour weeks, I have partners telling me to tone it down so I don't burn out on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141060)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:29 PM
Author: transparent erotic genital piercing new version

Real estate has been going off like gangbusters the last year and a half. Saytpf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141076)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 4:05 AM
Author: black concupiscible patrolman

(DPW associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27144460)



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Date: August 20th, 2014 12:53 PM
Author: Lake kink-friendly home

I have billed 2900 in a year. We had two cases go to jury trial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26169269)



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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:42 PM
Author: black concupiscible patrolman

Many people are billing 2500

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186947)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:10 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

This guy is a bit of a douche. "They look at what the starting salary is rather than the mentoring programs or the work"

The work is shit and mentoring programs don't matter. I've seen movies from the 80's - surprise! People cared about money then too.

If firms started offering federal judge perks - great hours, tenure, and pensions, maybe we'd care about more than getting cash for our labor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140957)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:11 PM
Author: contagious cuckoldry

So, what you are saying then is the firm work is fungible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140962)



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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: provocative umber senate

It's pretty fungible, especially at the lower levels. You're not going to be more satisfied working on a case for a fortune 100 company than you are a fortune 500 company. Look at salary and hours, not rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140978)



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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:39 PM
Author: Aromatic Circlehead Electric Furnace

Work isn't invariably shit, but there's not a hell of a lot to go on as a law student, and really doubt you can select for "mentoring" except to the extent that you are able to weed out firms with clearly terrible partners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186916)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:15 AM
Author: Turquoise Feces

cr. he goes full shitboomer at the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354739)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:16 AM
Author: Boyish school cafeteria

titcr. just do don't worry about starting salary but go to law school that costs $275K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354741)



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Date: August 21st, 2014 10:22 PM
Author: Vivacious orchid field dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26180090)



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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:28 PM
Author: Aromatic Circlehead Electric Furnace

Hours seem off. My firm gave averages in past years, and they were well below 2000 in every group. One of the more recent partners in my group is also on record saying he has never billed 2000 hours. I've always been in the 1900 range myself and the only feedback I've received on hours is to try to keep things in balance and "have a life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186845)



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Date: September 13th, 2014 5:39 PM
Author: cerebral tantric international law enforcement agency theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322707)



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Date: September 13th, 2014 5:58 PM
Author: Excitant chest-beating tanning salon

Half the problem is the meaningless deadlines set by the courts, which result in even more meaningless internal deadlines set by partners and senior associates...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322846)



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Date: September 13th, 2014 6:20 PM
Author: sadistic impertinent selfie cruise ship

Lol just meet your filing deadline faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322951)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:20 AM
Author: odious chocolate resort mood

This, except don't forget to add the client-driven deadline in the middle of those two things. Goes like this:

Court thinks: One week is plenty of time to write up a response to my sua sponte idea for why judgment should not be entered for the plaintiff! After all, this is a Biglaw firm for a F500 client and I'm only giving them 5 pages anyway.

Client thinks: Crap! The judge is thinking about ruling against us!!! That would be a total disaster not just for this case, but all the copycat cases sure to follow. I need to make sure Biglaw firm doesn't fuck this up. *Tells Top-level Parter partner to get him a draft of the response in 48 hours*

Top-level Partner thinks: Holy shit, this is one of our firm's most important client and if we fuck this up, we risk ruining our relationship with them. I better make sure Junior Partner has this covered. *Tells Junior Partner to get him a draft in the next 24 hours (i.e., high noon the following day)*

Junior Partner thinks: Fuck. I don't even know what the judge was talking about at the hearing, and I've got three other briefs going out today. Will have to look at this first thing tomorrow morning. *Tells Senior Associate to have him a draft first thing tomorrow morning.*

Senior Associate thinks: If I do good job on this, I can make PARTNER here! I can do this! Everyone will think I'm a GENIUS!!! Now, how much of this can I dump on the junior associates? *Tells Junior Associates to get him their respective assignments in 3 hours -- but asks so many follow-up questions that they all end up pulling all nighters.*

Junior Associates think: Fuck.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143733)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:22 AM
Author: beady-eyed plum laser beams den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143743)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 4:19 AM
Author: Charismatic locale boiling water

are the Junior Associates xo poasters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27144486)



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Date: January 22nd, 2015 11:51 PM
Author: odious chocolate resort mood

TLS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27168888)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:01 AM
Author: Turquoise Feces

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354716)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:08 AM
Author: Boyish school cafeteria

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354725)



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Date: October 4th, 2014 1:40 PM
Author: cerebral tantric international law enforcement agency theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26455262)



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Date: January 18th, 2015 8:48 PM
Author: Charismatic locale boiling water

180 thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27141627)



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Author: french big stead bbw

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143903)



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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:54 AM
Author: Charismatic locale boiling water

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143968)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 4:27 AM
Author: irradiated avocado dopamine



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Author: Turquoise Feces

is this the same production company as the k&e on balance vid? same soppy music.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354731)



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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:12 AM
Author: Boyish school cafeteria

cr this music is awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354732)



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Date: February 27th, 2015 1:22 PM
Author: stirring crimson property goal in life



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Date: May 6th, 2015 11:02 PM
Author: cerebral tantric international law enforcement agency theatre



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