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Odd Julia-ism: Stressing distinction between nude and "topless"
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:28 PM Author: opaque therapy As if flinging your tits around for the world to see isn't a big deal or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217398) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:31 PM Author: orchid theater death wish Well, considering every European and many South American women do this, then no, it's not a big deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217417) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:33 PM Author: opaque therapy Well, considering every Indian squats to shit in the streets, then no, doing it in Manhattan for money is not a big deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217431) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:34 PM Author: orchid theater death wish I went to the beach yesterday. Half the girls were topless. Nobody seemed to think it a big deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217438) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:38 PM Author: opaque therapy I was in the gym locker room yesterday. All the guys were nude. Nobody seemed to think it a big deal.
Do you not grasp the distinction between comfort with one's body in a setting where you are tanning or washing up where people aren't really supposed to stare vs. putting it on display for lecherous dudes for $? |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:41 PM Author: orchid theater death wish I see the distinction and see how it's ridiculous. This is probably why I was comfortable making $$ off it.
All that said, I know stripping is considered taboo and don't really take umbrage with that. |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:44 PM Author: opaque therapy Do you think sex for $$ is gross? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217502) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:47 PM Author: contagious school striped hyena why didn't you just get a regular job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217519) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:49 PM Author: orchid theater death wish Stripping was insane $$ and allowed me to pay for a lot of things (including part of my education). I also didn't really have a problem with it. I enjoyed it more than I would've enjoyed an office job at age 19.
Finally, I did do other things, too. I was a small-time actress & model while in college, and bartended, worked briefly as a personal trainer, etc. |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 2:30 PM Author: contagious school striped hyena do you feel guilty that men aren't able to make money as easily at that age? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26218143) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:34 PM Author: aphrodisiac elastic band I recently read an article where toplessness on European beaches is becoming a thing of the past, and that the younger generations associate it with the older generations. True? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217436) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:37 PM Author: opaque therapy Matches my experience but I've only been to a few beaches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217453) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:35 PM Author: mind-boggling ticket booth Go away (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217442) |
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Date: February 5th, 2017 5:44 PM Author: Plum beady-eyed senate many middle eastern countries bury women in pits and stone them to death, is that normal too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#32551504) |
Date: August 27th, 2014 12:29 PM Author: mind-boggling ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217404) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:33 PM Author: Insanely Creepy Liquid Oxygen Athletic Conference i get enraged when ppl describe topless as nude. i want to see pussy and/or ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217430) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:36 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Greedy Party Of The First Part she has this compartmentalized dude. regardless of what you think, what happened at her club, by her co-workers, or even the actual acts that she in fact performed, SHE WAS DOING IT IN A DIFFERENT AND CLASSY WAY than everyone else who has ever done this for a living. they are all whores and the customers are all monsters. she remains a lady. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217447) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:37 PM Author: orchid theater death wish (guy resorting to hyperbole and still failing to make his point) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217454) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:39 PM Author: opaque therapy I think it's a valid point. You draw an arbitrary line to put yourself on the "classy" side instead of supporting all sex workers equally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217472) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:42 PM Author: orchid theater death wish Sex work involves sex. What I did involved no sex.
I support all sex workers, just as I support all workers.
I am not drawing "class" distinctions. I am drawing a distinction between work that, on the one hand, involves sexual acts and is illegal, and on the other hand, does not involves sex acts and is thus not illegal.
This distinction is even bigger than the one between fucking a woman of legal age and one who is underage.
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:45 PM Author: opaque therapy Showing your tits to drooling men and grinding on their boners is a sex act. You think you were up on stage for your artistic merits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217506) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:48 PM Author: orchid theater death wish I've talked about this at length on XO for over a decade - and it's been over a decade since I danced.
I wasn't giving lap dances, so no, I wasn't "grinding on boners". That'll get you fired at many places and arrested at many others.
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:50 PM Author: opaque therapy You admitted to giving a few lap dances in a previous post so which is it?
I don't really care that you were a stripper, just seems very odd to describe it as something other than sex work. I think the other poaster is right and you are trying to distance yourself from the sexual aspects. |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:55 PM Author: orchid theater death wish Stripping is obviously sensual and erotic, but it's not sex work. I have no problem with eroticism and sensuality, but my personal boundaries do stop at sexual contact. It's also, incidentally, how the law views it in most jurisdictions, so I'm not exactly alone on this. It's also true that unlike true sex wok, stripping doesn't run the risk of getting you pregnant or STDs.
Fwiw, I don't think prostitution should be illegal - it should be legal and highly regulated. It's just that I would never want to have sex for money, just as I don't sleep around or engage in promiscuous behaviors, either. It has more to do with personal moral boundaries in that regard, and we're all allowed to have those. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 7:38 PM Author: Splenetic Razzle-dazzle Immigrant LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#34735052) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:51 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Greedy Party Of The First Part what do you guys not understand? unlike the WHORES and HUSSIES the rest of the club employed, Julia was the only person at Scores not offering private dances. It was her way or the highway. You think another girl like her was gonna walk right in the door? The owner was all like "well crap we gotta have her." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217542) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:53 PM Author: opaque therapy tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217551) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:54 PM Author: contagious school striped hyena lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217557) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:57 PM Author: orchid theater death wish There was no such thing as "private" dances at the old Scores. There were no truly private rooms. The champagne room was an open platform visible to everyone and the President's Club had several people in it all times, plus waiters, massage therapists, etc. There were no private rooms where people could scurry off to alone, and this was in part a concession to early mob dealing agreements struck with the Feds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26217569) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 2:38 PM Author: Aromatic shivering round eye yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26218205) |
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Date: November 7th, 2014 1:44 PM Author: opaque therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26668389) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:12 AM Author: opaque therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790800) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:21 AM Author: Impertinent emerald meetinghouse juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790847) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:24 AM Author: chest-beating spot LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790864) |
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Date: February 5th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: Balding sapphire plaza place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#32551496) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:51 PM Author: contagious school striped hyena Just now:
"I support all sex workers"
Yesterday:
"There is a bit of a gray area for strippers who do contact dances, but any girl who is grabbing guy's cocks, etc. is a whore"
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2657088&mc=88&forum_id=2#26208876
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Date: August 27th, 2014 12:57 PM Author: orchid theater death wish Where is the contradiction? A sex worker is commonly known as a whore. |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 2:42 PM Author: concupiscible irate theater stage dingle berry i actually support julia in this thread (although nothing but love for you, op). julia is at her best when she is a half-autist with no regard for commonly-made distinctions. that's an interesting person who can say "club versus beach? what's the diff?" it would be even better if she stayed consistent when it came to other social conventions. but all in all, right or wrong, at least this is julia showing some personality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26218241) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:04 AM Author: opaque therapy Excellent Julia-style post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26222631) |
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Date: August 27th, 2014 11:47 PM Author: razzmatazz spruce pisswyrm "Topless" just looks better on a resume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26221782) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 12:05 AM Author: brilliant temple masturbator Pls. repost in "resume interstes" topic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26221977) |
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Date: February 15th, 2015 12:29 PM Author: opaque therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#27319417) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:07 AM Author: fuchsia marvelous casino Isn't topless v nude a big deal in the stripping industry because in some states if the strippers are nude then the venue can't sell alcohol? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26222645) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:08 AM Author: opaque therapy Yes or in some places they have to wear pasties even if topless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26222647) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:10 AM Author: fuchsia marvelous casino I have a friend who was a stripper during college and she explained this to me once. They never went completely nude at the place she worked at because then the venue wouldn't be able to sell overpriced drinks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26222652) |
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Date: August 28th, 2014 3:11 AM Author: opaque therapy Yeah as if showing some bush would suddenly turn the place from a classy family establishment into a whore's den. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26222653) |
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Date: November 7th, 2014 1:50 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Greedy Party Of The First Part Julia also only went topless for a Playboy video because that was where she drew the line. She was all "Hef I don't care how much money you offer if I pass this audition but this girl has integrity!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#26668419) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:16 AM Author: black hell I love when girls draw lines after going this far....like a porn star who won't do anal because they have standards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790819) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:19 AM Author: opaque therapy There's some porn star who only does anal. Her work is powerful performance art that deconstructs the narrative of boundaries and male hegemonic chastity standards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790839) |
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Date: September 19th, 2015 11:22 AM Author: black hell scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2658277&forum_id=2#28790856) |